Talk:Finland

Happiness report

I would suggest removing the Happiness report from the lead unless it is also going to be mentioned that Finland has one of the highest rates of suicide in Europe due to the well-known effect of winter depression. The Happiness report is based on highly subjective survey data, so the lead here is currently cherrypicking subjective information over far clearer objective metrics. Iskandar323 (talk) 13:29, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

The Happiness report is reported on by many reliable references, so what you personally think about the data isn't really what should matter here. Is the Wikipedia list for highest suicide rates? TylerBurden (talk) 03:16, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

Hello, I'm Finnish. I heard sometimes Finnish teens did suicide more than Finnish adults due to poor mental health. Finland should stop suicide right now. I believe social media bullied them in happened. JimiDragon (talk) 15:28, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

It's a highly flawed single-item survey of a highly subjective phenomena. See the criticisms. Many economists doubt if it is even valid. And there are better, more objective metrics to feature in county page leads. Iskandar323 (talk) 04:18, 13 May 2023 (UTC)

I assume "county" was a typo because Finland is an independent country, not a "county. Regardless as you can see the report is no longer in the lead, so this discussion is quite moot. TylerBurden (talk) 15:53, 14 May 2023 (UTC)

Here's a little help, you can learn and see coun-try or co-un-try because you can see "try". Country. See? I hope you can understand it. JimiDragon (talk) 07:50, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

The English language is not difficult, in my opinion. :) JimiDragon (talk) 07:51, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 April 2023

There's an unclosed parenthesis in the second sentence of "Media and communications": "The largest newspaper is Helsingin Sanomat (its circulation of 412,000". 93.72.49.123 (talk) 22:04, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

 Done - I've just removed the actual number altogether as it's from 2009 and I can't seem to find a newer statistic. Tollens (talk) 22:27, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

@Tollens: Strictly speaking, the newest circulation figure is 339,437 (from 2019). There is a trend in Finnish press to report readership in other figures, and many papers have ceased to have circulation checked. Would this 2019 number be current enough to be included in the article? – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 19:46, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

Oh! That's great - just wasn't able to find that! I've added it in. Tollens (talk) 21:29, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

Stone Age bear head gavel?

Any sources supporting this description? Yes it's Stone Age, yes it has a bear's head - but surely that's something not used as a gavel? Little grape (talk) 10:22, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

Using Google translate on the second source in the caption gives me "animal head weapon; bear head mallet". I don't know how accurate that translation is, maybe a Finnish speaker can translate "eläinpääase; karhunpäänuija" into English? TylerBurden (talk) 13:53, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

Translation happens to be as good as it can be. Nuija is a common name for blunt tools and weapons like bludgeon, gavel or mallet. It can't be exactly known what the intended use of the unfinished stone head was (it's found as a lone piece). Like other animal shaped stone heads it's classified to weapons, "nuijas" and religious items. Here's a photo taken above: [1]. The National Library of Finland source you translated from uses also "axe" in the text description ("physical description: Bear head axe"). Your pick, English speakers. --J. Sketter (talk) 02:24, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

Why does NATO have to be mentioned in the infobox ?

It is not included in the infoboxes of other countries which are a part of the NATO Smahwk (talk) 07:44, 14 September 2023 (UTC)

It doesn't have to, but it would make little sense to keep the EU and remove NATO. It seems like a brief list of significant events, Finland making its decision to join NATO was significant. TylerBurden (talk) 15:00, 14 September 2023 (UTC)

In my opinion , both of them can be removed as they don't have any impact on the sovereignty of Finland but EU is still more relevant since NATO is a military alliance while the EU is a political union. I think NATO and EU should both be removed from the infobox if there is consensus for it Smahwk (talk) 14:32, 16 September 2023 (UTC)

I think that the mention of the EU should stay there and NATO removed. My reasoning is that in the constitution it says that Finland is a member of the European Union. The constitution does not mention the membership in NATO. Yökyöpeli (talk) 21:20, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

The most recent version of it I can find is from 1999, since Finland joined the EU in 1995 it makes sense why it is mentioned there and NATO is not, so I don't think that on its own necessarily makes one more important than the other. TylerBurden (talk) 14:17, 20 September 2023 (UTC)