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Fails [[WP:GNG]]. [[WP:GEOROAD]] states "topic notability for county roads... are presumed to be notable if they have been the subject of multiple published secondary sources which contain significant coverage and are reliable and independent of the subject" which there is no evidence of. '''–––''' [[User:GMH Melbourne|<span style="color:black">GMH MELBOURNE</span>]] [[User talk:GMH Melbourne|<span style="font-size:85%;">TALK</span>]] 09:26, 2 October 2023 (UTC) |
Fails [[WP:GNG]]. [[WP:GEOROAD]] states "topic notability for county roads... are presumed to be notable if they have been the subject of multiple published secondary sources which contain significant coverage and are reliable and independent of the subject" which there is no evidence of. '''–––''' [[User:GMH Melbourne|<span style="color:black">GMH MELBOURNE</span>]] [[User talk:GMH Melbourne|<span style="font-size:85%;">TALK</span>]] 09:26, 2 October 2023 (UTC) |
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*'''Keep'''. Meets [[WP:GEOROAD]] as above. -- [[User:Necrothesp|Necrothesp]] ([[User talk:Necrothesp|talk]]) 10:20, 3 October 2023 (UTC) |
*'''Keep'''. Meets [[WP:GEOROAD]] as above. -- [[User:Necrothesp|Necrothesp]] ([[User talk:Necrothesp|talk]]) 10:20, 3 October 2023 (UTC) |
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*'''Delete''' - The only source is one saying it was renamed, and I can't find any other sources, also not a suitable redirect term. To those advocating [[WP:GEOROAD]], remember that is a '''guideline''' while [[WP:V]] and [[WP:DP]] are '''policies'''. If this was notable, I'd create [[No Name Street, Sandwich]] as it has as much coverage in reliable sources as this street. ([https://www.kentonline.co.uk/sandwich/news/town-in-a-pickle-as-ham-sandwich-sign-sparks-trip-hazard-c-293800/]) [[User:Ritchie333|<b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b>]] [[User talk:Ritchie333|<sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk)</sup>]] [[Special:Contributions/Ritchie333|<sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)</sup>]] 11:52, 3 October 2023 (UTC) |
*'''Delete''' - The only source is one saying it was renamed, and I can't find any other sources, also not a suitable redirect term. To those advocating [[WP:GEOROAD]], remember that is a '''guideline''' while [[WP:V]] and [[WP:DP]] are '''policies'''. If this was notable, I'd create [[No Name Street, Sandwich]] as it has as much coverage in reliable sources as this street. ([https://www.kentonline.co.uk/sandwich/news/town-in-a-pickle-as-ham-sandwich-sign-sparks-trip-hazard-c-293800/]) [[User:Ritchie333|<b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b>]] [[User talk:Ritchie333|<sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk)</sup>]] [[Special:Contributions/Ritchie333|<sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)</sup>]] 11:52, 3 October 2023 (UTC) |
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Fails WP:GNG. WP:GEOROAD states "topic notability for county roads... are presumed to be notable if they have been the subject of multiple published secondary sources which contain significant coverage and are reliable and independent of the subject" which there is no evidence of. ––– GMH MELBOURNE TALK 09:26, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Geography and South Africa. ––– GMH MELBOURNE TALK 09:26, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 11:17, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
- Speedy keep because this isn't even a county road. WP:GEOROAD clearly says "national, state and provincial highways are typically notable." So this is a flawed nomination. LilianaUwU (talk / contributions) 12:43, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
- Keep - Per LilianaUwU, this is not a county road and does meet the notability criteria for GEOROAD. The metropolitan routes in South Africa are more similar to state/provincial routes in other countries. Dough4872 13:08, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
- It says it's maintained by eThekwini Metropolitan Municipality. Wouldn't that be a county? ––– GMH MELBOURNE TALK 14:04, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
- Routes like NY 895 are maintained by New York City, but that doesn't make them any less of a state highway, no? LilianaUwU (talk / contributions) 14:57, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
- Yes but they have sources that meet WP:GNG to make them notable. ––– GMH MELBOURNE TALK 00:04, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
- Per WP:N, actual policy, an article only needs to meet GNG or an SNG. GEOROAD is the SNG here. If the other editors here say that this topic meeds GEOROAD, then it doesn't matter if it does or doesn't meet GNG, per policy, a fact that many editors seem to have forgotten. Imzadi 1979 → 03:59, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
- Well the SNG says "county roads... are presumed to be notable if they have been the subject of multiple published secondary sources which contain significant coverage and are reliable and independent of the subject" which this article does not have. ––– GMH MELBOURNE TALK 04:08, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
- WP:N isn't a policy, it's a guideline. See the box at the top of the page cf: "This page documents an English Wikipedia notability guideline". That's why GMHM and my comments are about policies. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 15:47, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
- Per WP:N, actual policy, an article only needs to meet GNG or an SNG. GEOROAD is the SNG here. If the other editors here say that this topic meeds GEOROAD, then it doesn't matter if it does or doesn't meet GNG, per policy, a fact that many editors seem to have forgotten. Imzadi 1979 → 03:59, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
- Yes but they have sources that meet WP:GNG to make them notable. ––– GMH MELBOURNE TALK 00:04, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
- Routes like NY 895 are maintained by New York City, but that doesn't make them any less of a state highway, no? LilianaUwU (talk / contributions) 14:57, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
- It says it's maintained by eThekwini Metropolitan Municipality. Wouldn't that be a county? ––– GMH MELBOURNE TALK 14:04, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
- Keep. Meets WP:GEOROAD as above. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:20, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
- Delete - The only source is one saying it was renamed, and I can't find any other sources, also not a suitable redirect term. To those advocating WP:GEOROAD, remember that is a guideline while WP:V and WP:DP are policies. If this was notable, I'd create No Name Street, Sandwich as it has as much coverage in reliable sources as this street. ([1]) Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:52, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 23:00, 9 October 2023 (UTC)