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"The points of impact were close enough to personnel and equipment ... that I believe, based on what I saw and what I know, is that they were intended to cause structural damage, destroy vehicles and equipment and aircraft, and to kill personnel," Milley said. "That's my own personal assessment." |
"The points of impact were close enough to personnel and equipment ... that I believe, based on what I saw and what I know, is that they were intended to cause structural damage, destroy vehicles and equipment and aircraft, and to kill personnel," Milley said. "That's my own personal assessment." |
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That is coming from the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. America's highest military command. Thoughts? |
That is coming from the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. America's highest military command. Thoughts? <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Godrain|Godrain]] ([[User talk:Godrain#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Godrain|contribs]]) 11:21, 3 August 2020 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Xsign --> |
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I think this should be a fair and balanced article and not politically biased because that just makes Wikipedia look bad. The sooner the retaliation section of the article is balanced out by quoting a highly experienced senior military officer. Who happens to be American. The better. We are talking about credibility here. Or lack thereof. |
I think this should be a fair and balanced article and not politically biased because that just makes Wikipedia look bad. The sooner the retaliation section of the article is balanced out by quoting a highly experienced senior military officer. Who happens to be American. The better. We are talking about credibility here. Or lack thereof. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Godrain|Godrain]] ([[User talk:Godrain#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Godrain|contribs]]) 11:30, 3 August 2020 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Xsign --> |
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Iranian missile attack on the Al Asad Airbase airbase
I feel that the section Retaliation should include the statements put forth by the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff as well the following is descriptive but lacks balance. "On 8 January 2020, the Iranian military responded to Soleimani's death by launching ballistic missiles at two U.S. bases in Iraq,[204][205] resulting in no reported casualties but 100 traumatic brain injuries.[206][207][208] Iranian officials[209] and some Western media analysts suggested the strike was deliberately designed to avoid causing any casualties to avoid an American response.[210][211]"
While that is one particular viewpoint I will draw your attention to the following from defense.gov. https://www.defense.gov/Explore/News/Article/Article/2052919/joint-chiefs-chairman-defensive-measures-prevented-casualties-in-iranian-attack/
"There's sirens that go off on these bases. ... There's bunkers and jersey barriers, and there's places to go hide and all that," said Army Gen. Mark A. Milley told reporters at the Pentagon today. Milley and Defense Secretary Dr. Mark T. Esper briefed reporters after spending most of the day on Capitol Hill talking with lawmakers.
"We have various levels of protective gear, and we have various scatter plans that do certain things," the chairman said. "They are all tactics, techniques and procedures — normal defensive procedures that any military unit would do that would come under rocket attack, indirect fire, mortars, large-scale missiles, etc. So in this particular case, Al Asad is a big base — they put 11 large rockets [with] 1,000-, 2,000-pound warheads in them — but we took sufficient defensive measures that there were no casualties to U.S. personnel, coalition personnel, contractors or Iraqis."
"While no lives were lost, Milley said, he believes the Iranians intended to cause deaths."
"The points of impact were close enough to personnel and equipment ... that I believe, based on what I saw and what I know, is that they were intended to cause structural damage, destroy vehicles and equipment and aircraft, and to kill personnel," Milley said. "That's my own personal assessment."
That is coming from the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. America's highest military command. Thoughts? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Godrain (talk • contribs) 11:21, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
I think this should be a fair and balanced article and not politically biased because that just makes Wikipedia look bad. The sooner the retaliation section of the article is balanced out by quoting a highly experienced senior military officer. Who happens to be American. The better. We are talking about credibility here. Or lack thereof. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Godrain (talk • contribs) 11:30, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
Merge suggestion
I suggest that the article https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Funeral_of_Qasem_Soleimani be merged into this (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qasem_Soleimani). Mas73Naz (talk) 17:40, 7 October 2020 (UT
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Mention of protest against his assassination and UN view on top of page.
Reports of celebration of his assassination are little to be found. Whereas, protests against his assassination were widely documented and verified. Also isn't the top of wiki's page a summary of the entire page?. There is nothing about celebration on wikipedia's content. Izan Mehdi. (talk) 14:48, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
- Sorry, but the fact that you already have a history of pro-IRI editing (eg [1] [2] [3]) makes it hard to believe in you. The fact that one single search already shows some results [4] makes your claim even less believable. --HistoryofIran (talk) 14:56, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
- Sir, well on the Zahedan massacre, yeah I did something silly by using google translate to translate the sources and could not find that forces shot worshippers inside the mosque. But, the other two edits are about presenting both sides views. I'am not fan of this brutal regime but, having lived in Iran, I think there should be more balanced view of the country.
- As for Soleimani killing, I ask again, isn't the top of wiki's page a summary of the entire page?. There is nothing about celebration on wikipedia's content. Yet there is about the protests and Un view on it and those are not editied by me. Izan Mehdi. (talk) 15:08, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
- A government does not equal the country - the people do. The country is nothing without the people - the same people who are getting killed right now for protesting for basic human rights. If you want to present both sides, please do better. I'm not gonna intervene further here for now, please think of what I have said. Bests. --HistoryofIran (talk) 18:12, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
Nickname
He also called Kotlet by many Iranians. Kotlet is an Iranian food. In idiom, Kotlet is who damaged badly. 5.209.152.127 (talk) 19:30, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
yes is true HOSSEIN44s (talk) 07:08, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
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