Talk:UEFA Euro 2024 qualifying

Remove Russia from the map.

Please could someone remove Russia from the map as they will not enter the qualifying. Anttipng (talk) 15:43, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

What's with the constant seething for? 47.185.105.210 (talk) 15:57, 20 March 2023 (UTC)

Play-offs

If I'm not mistaken, the countries ranked 51–55 can't reach the tournament through the play-offs. This should perhaps be made clear in this table? // Mattias321 (talk) 22:21, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

@Mattias321: The teams in pots 4 and 5 will all be drawn into separate groups, and the top two teams of each group will qualify for Euro 2024. So theoretically, if every team from these pots qualify except for one of the League C group winners (Georgia, Greece, Turkey or Kazakhstan), the play-off spots must be passed to teams in a lower league, and thus could reach all the way to Liechtenstein. S.A. Julio (talk) 02:27, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

@S.A. Julio: Ah sorry, forgot about that scenario... Thanks for correcting my mistake! // Mattias321 (talk) 18:15, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

1. If one of those leagues has fewer than four non-qualifying teams, spots are taken first by the best group winner from League D (unless already qualified), and then by other teams based on ranking. 2. Group winners from Leagues B and C cannot face teams from higher leagues. What will happen if all teams except 3 from Leagues B are qualified and at least 5 teams from Leagues A are not qualified? Will one team from A will go to B Play-off (contradicting 2) or will one team from C will go to B Play-off (contradicting 1)?

The formal wording used is "The remaining slots are then allocated to the best-ranked of the teams that have not already qualified for the final tournament (...), subject to the restriction that group winners of Leagues A, B and C cannot be in a play-off path with higher-ranked teams", so in this hypothetical scenario the 5th team from league A would not enter the play-offs. Kirt93 (talk) 23:22, 14 September 2023 (UTC)

Not all league B and C teams are group winners though, are they? So as long as none of the non-qualified teams from league B or C are group winners, a team from league A can be added to the B or C play-off path. But before that the B path would be filled by the best group winner from league D per rule 1 of course.Tvx1 21:23, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

Fixtures

When will the fixtures be added? as they have been release Japhes5005 (talk) 14:22, 10 October 2022 (UTC)

Luxembourg

Why could Luxembourg not be put into group H (Denmark, Finland, Slovenia) and group I (Switzerland, Israel, Romania), but group J? [1]

Any reply? -St3095 ^(?) 15:19, 15 October 2022 (UTC)

@St3095: Because group J was unavailable for both Kosovo and Kazakhstan. Kosovo-Bosnia is a prohibited clash due to politics, and Kazakhstan can't meet Portugal and Iceland in the same group due to excessive travel restriction. So Luxembourg had to be placed in that group. --BlameRuiner (talk) 14:37, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

@BlameRuiner: thanks. -St3095 ^(?) 13:47, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

north of Ireland "flag"

That banner has not been officially used since the early 1970s. Why does it continue to be used on wikipedia for the northern team? 47.185.105.210 (talk) 15:58, 20 March 2023 (UTC)

The flag is used to represent the national team within FIFA. S.A. Julio (talk) 17:03, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

And Portugal?

..m 2001:8A0:F214:1E00:4934:F404:5D08:AE63 (talk) 23:02, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

Portugal has got 3 points and four goals against Liechtenstein

portugal is in the second or first place 2001:8A0:F214:1E00:4934:F404:5D08:AE63 (talk) 23:05, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

Turkey or Turkiye?

Does this need changing now? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C4:8D48:1:8CE:719E:1C06:64C9 (talk) 14:58, 26 March 2023 (UTC)

The article for the country is located at Turkey. The national team articles should only be renamed if the article on the country is moved. S.A. Julio (talk) 20:57, 26 March 2023 (UTC)

Visualizing the play-offs

Would it make sense under the play-off section to highlight in green teams that would currently qualify directly, and in blue those that would qualify for a play-off path? I don't trust myself to mess around with the colors or I'd do it myself ArgoBargo (talk) 21:37, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

I like the idea. I think in previous EURO qualifyings it has also been done. I give it a try later Thmetzi (talk) 09:22, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

Overall rankings

It says some games haven't been played yet while most of the teams did play them. How did slovenia only play 1 game? They played 2 and won both so should have 6 points 84.30.65.18 (talk) 04:58, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

Matches against 6th place don't count. Otherwise, the teams in Group H, I, J would play more games than the teams in groups of 5, giving an unfair advantage on points. Mwiqdoh (talk) 05:09, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

Path play offs

If 14 or 15 automatically qualify from league A or B then the 2nd or 3rd places will go to Estonia, does the final place go to next league down or to D. Japhes23 Japhes23 (talk) 22:02, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

@Japhes23: It would go by overall ranking, League D would not get additional places. You can see the full explanation here. S.A. Julio (talk) 02:19, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

Table rows highlighted in green

At present, the top two rows in the qualifying group for each table are highlighted in green, with "Qualify for final tournament" which makes it look as if those teams have already qualified. They haven't.

Could/should there be another colour (a more washed-out green perhaps?) for "Teams finishing in these positions will qualify" davidprior ^t/_c 23:02, 20 June 2023 (UTC)

Qualification vs qualifying

Shouldn't all of these articles be titled e.g., "UEFA Euro 2024 qualification" rather than qualifying, in line with e.g., 2022 FIFA World Cup qualification. Sounds better in my opinion, although I think both can technically be correctly used as nouns. Bs1jac (talk) 08:33, 13 September 2023 (UTC)

Group E

It is not true that Faroe Islands cannot qualify directly. Theoretically it is possible. Marij (talk) 16:03, 14 September 2023 (UTC)

@Marij: Many editors, including me, have considered most (if not all) possible scenarios of Group E. Faroe at best may get a 10-point 3-way tie with Czech/Moldova/Poland, but they will fall behind in head-to-head points. Centaur271188 (talk) 06:24, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

@Centaur271188: OK, Yyu're right Marij (talk) 11:16, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

Gibraltar

Why is Gibraltar marked with (E)? I believe it should be (Y). Kirt93 (talk) 23:34, 14 September 2023 (UTC)

@Kirt93: We already have 4 Y teams in League C and their rankings are higher than Gibraltar's, so Gibraltar cannot advance to play-offs. Centaur271188 (talk) 06:30, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

There are only 2 teams in League C which are currently marked as Y. If there are 4 such teams, the information about other two should be corrected. Kirt93 (talk) 07:09, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

@Kirt93: We also have Bulgaria/Lithuania in Group G and Belarus/Kosovo in Group I. They cannot qualify directly together, so they are already Y. We just do not specifically know which team yet. Centaur271188 (talk) 07:35, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

Ok Kirt93 (talk) 07:43, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

Belarus

update: I am wrong, but dont delete the post. because only 3 points will have Belaurus played among the teams in question. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.6.88.211 (talk) 08:13, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

Belarus have chance qualify directly. If they beat Switzerland 8-0 or more, and Israel beat Switzerland 1-0. And Romania beat Israel and Switzerland.

Tiebreaking

1, Higher number of points obtained in the matches played among the teams in question;

Belarus, Israel and Switzerland 14 points,

2, Superior goal difference in matches played among the teams in question;

Belarus 9-8, Switzerland 8-9, Israel 4-5 2001:4C4E:1333:BC00:A0E0:BDB7:FD21:7163 (talk) 07:56, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

Another question regarding the play-offs

I have yet another question regarding the formation of the play-off paths. What would happen if the entire set of teams of one of the three leagues with potential play-off paths end up qualifying for the tournament directly? In practice, this could happen with league A so what would that result in? Will they form a second league C play-off path (considering that they are formed in reverse chronological alphabetical order)? Tvx1 13:13, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

@Tvx1: First Estonia would be selected, followed by the next best teams in the overall Nations League ranking. So with your example, League B would get three additional play-off spots. S.A. Julio (talk) 15:13, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

Are you sure about that? The rules state that the play-off paths are formed in reverse aplhabetical order of the league names. So that would rather suggest that league C would get the additional play-off spot. And Estonia would only come in the equation if less teams than required to form a set of four are left unselected in one of the leagues.Tvx1 19:16, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

No, in this hypothetically scenario, according to the regulations it would go like this:

- First path C will be formed, 4 teams from league C will go to it.

- Second path B will be formed, 4 teams from league B will go to it.

- Third path A will be formed, there will (hypothetically) be no league A teams, so 1 slot in this path will go to Estonia, and the other 3 slots will be "allocated to the best-ranked of the teams that have not already qualified for the final tournament on the basis of the overall 2022/23 UEFA Nations League rankings, subject to the restriction that group winners of Leagues A, B and C cannot be in a play-off path with higher-ranked teams" which will be teams from league B.

This situation (all league A teams qualified directlyy) is all extremely unlikely to happen anyway though, because at this point it's extremely unlikely (though matemathically possible) for both Poland and Czechia to get directly qualified together with one another. Kirt93 (talk) 17:01, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

Possible absurd situation

Republic of Ireland cannot qualify directly but through the play-off if enough better ranked class B teams are qualified directly. Maybe Ireland has to loose their last game against the Netherlands and maybe they have to loose with a bigger goal difference for qualifying the Netherlands (instead of Greece) directly and to be part of the play-off. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:8070:D283:580:7862:81F0:2A03:6900 (talk) 16:14, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

Yes, indeed, good catch! This would in fact happen if (and only if) no more than 2 teams worse (in the Nations League ranking) than Ireland qualify directly - it doesn't seem likely at this point that it would be only as few as 2 such teams, but certainly trying to win (or draw) against Netherlands would only make it worse from Ireland's perspective. Kirt93 (talk) 17:05, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

Israel possible suspension !

The match with Kosovo was postponed as the Israeli government won't let players aboard, mainly to do with the War with Hamas, Israel has a guarantee play off place, despite UEFA not saying anything yet that I'm aware of, any remaining Israeli home fixtures can't be played either, Japhes23 Japhes23 (talk) 21:15, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

North Macedonia

Are North Macedonia definitely out? If they win both their remaining games and Italy beat Ukraine, then it would put all those 3 sides on 13 points. I work it out Italy and North Macedonia are then tied depending on goal difference, so basically a good win for North Macedonia against Italy and they come second.

Though I could be wrong. 2A00:23C8:4F05:9001:5119:8977:FE18:22C2 (talk) 22:16, 17 October 2023 (UTC)