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:Hi @[[User:Beatrice Brooklyn|Beatrice Brooklyn]]. I've had a look at all your sources. I think it passes the threshold now and would accept if you re-submitted.
:Hi @[[User:Beatrice Brooklyn|Beatrice Brooklyn]]. I've had a look at all your sources. I think it passes the threshold now and would accept if you re-submitted.
:It's worth noting for the future- try not to compare your draft to existing articles (or if you do, choose a [[WP:GOOD]] one). Wikipedia has many thousands of articles that are poor quality and should be improved or deleted, but no volunteer has gotten around to it yet. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 20:54, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
:It's worth noting for the future- try not to compare your draft to existing articles (or if you do, choose a [[WP:GOOD]] one). Wikipedia has many thousands of articles that are poor quality and should be improved or deleted, but no volunteer has gotten around to it yet. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 20:54, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
::Hi @[[User:Qcne|Qcne]], thanks so much for taking the time to look it over and for the tip about comparisons- both are much appreciated! I will resubmit. [[User:Beatrice Brooklyn|Beatrice Brooklyn]] ([[User talk:Beatrice Brooklyn|talk]]) 10:06, 28 October 2023 (UTC)


== 18:52, 27 October 2023 review of submission by Wordsmith.ch ==
== 18:52, 27 October 2023 review of submission by Wordsmith.ch ==

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October 22

00:11, 22 October 2023 review of submission by TheCuratedConsumerJoshua

I am having trouble getting correct citation practices down. I have read and rearead, The guideline at WP:ILC and the tutorial is at WP:INTREFVE. I am still having some disconnect with creating the proper authoritative sources. If anyone has any advise or recommendations I would be very appreciative for the support! TheCuratedConsumerJoshua (talk) 00:11, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

TheCuratedConsumerJoshua. Wikipedia already has an article, Greetings Tour, which does not even mention the Bend mural. I fail to see why the Bend mural requires its own separate article when it can be mentioned in the main article. Your draft currently has eight references, and six of them do not even mention the Bend mural and are therefore of zero value in establishing the notability of the Bend mural. The other two are clearly based on press releases and interviews with the artists, and are therefore not independent sources and do not establish the notability of the Bend mural. I recommend that you abandon your draft, and instead focus your efforts on improving and expanding Greetings Tour, which has not had substantive content edits for several years. Cullen328 (talk) 04:24, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

05:48, 22 October 2023 review of submission by Crystal S. Brown

What do I do to put my information out in the world? I am getting an error stating double gazing, prolimic??? Crystal S. Brown (talk) 05:48, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Crystal S. Brown: I rejected this draft, because it is not suitable for inclusion in an encyclopaedia. It starts with "How deeply is the overturning of Roe V. Wade going to affect women of color?" – posing a question like that is the hallmark of an essay. And it is polemic, arguing a particular point of view: "In closing, we as women, at the core should have the right to choose the decisions we make with our bodies."
You can express your opinions on any number of blogging, social media, etc. platforms. However, Wikipedia is not the place to "put [your] information out in the world". -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:00, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Crystal S. Brown, I agree with DoubleGrazing. Your draft bears little resemblance to a neutrally written encyclopedia article. Cullen328 (talk) 06:28, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Crystal S. Brown: I agree with DoubleGrazing and Cullen328. Surely, the plight of women of color (and all women) in the US is an important subject, but not here.   — Jeff G. ツ 01:02, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

06:27, 22 October 2023 review of submission by Jrmango

I have been trying to write this page, but people have said the sources don't meed the Notability guidelines, but I can't seem to find sources that can, and the wording is kind of unclear. Jrmango (talk) 06:27, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Jrmango: what "people" have said that? It doesn't look like this has been reviewed, or have you made your previous attempts under a different account or IP? -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:31, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Jrmango, Wikipedia is not an instruction manual, and content like If you like this song, and would like to play it yourself, I must warn you that it is extermely difficult to find sheet music for it. A plain Google search yields almost nothing for it. is completely inappropriate for this encyclopedia. Wikipedia editors never address our readers directly. and never use the word "I" in Wikipedia's voice. You need to provide references to independent, reliable sources that provide significant coverage of the song itself, not coverage of the movie that the song is a part of. Cullen328 (talk) 06:39, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The purpose of an iencycolpedia is to give information to other people, so this would be helpful infformation that it would be very difficult to find sheet music for the song, so a person would not have to waste their time trying to look for it Jrmango (talk) 17:58, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Jrmango No, that is not the purpose of an encyclopedia. This encyclopedia summarizes independent reliable sources; it doesn't merely provide information. 331dot (talk) 18:04, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
According to the Oxford Dictionary, an encycolpedia is "a book or set of books giving information on many subjects or on many aspects of one subject and typically arranged alphabetically.", and that definition says nothing about it summarizing anything. Jrmango (talk) 18:21, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Please see the Five Pillars. It gives information to tell you Walmart has a sale on computers, but that is not valid encyclopedia content here. 331dot (talk) 18:36, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Also, it has been reviewed Jrmango (talk) 18:22, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Can i have some help finding notable sources? Jrmango (talk) 18:57, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Please keep discussion about this draft in this section. We can't find sources for you- it's up to you to have sources in hand before you attempt the difficult task of writing a new article. See WP:BACKWARD. If you are unable to find sources that show notability, the topic would not merit an article at this time. 331dot (talk) 19:07, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

12:50, 22 October 2023 review of submission by Jopje dropje

I've been rejected multiple times by the same moderator for "not going in-depth enough". i think this is completely false, as i've made the complete documentation, explaination on how to download / use and reerences to the only original source i could find. also, i quite literally have the original creator of the programming language and the writer of the only source of information (Github page) sitting right next to me reviewing what i do. there are no other resources i could possibly link, and i've quite literally listed all information there is Jopje dropje (talk) 12:50, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Jopje dropje: firstly, from what I can see, it looks like the draft was declined once, resubmitted immediately without any improvement, and then rejected. Not sure that counts as "rejected multiple times".
This draft has no evidence that the subject is notable. And based on what you say, it seems that absence of evidence on this occasion really is evidence of absence. We don't want to hear what the developers or others closely associated with the subject have to say about it, we need to see significant coverage in multiple independent and reliable secondary sources; GitHub meets none of those criteria. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:58, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
then your system must be broken. i've quite literally made multiple changes to it after the first review, including a section going in-depth about the installation and what to do when you want to compile the source code. as for the significant coverage, pages like github are quite literally the only way to get significant coverage in the world of programming. Jopje dropje (talk) 13:03, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The edit history is as DoubleGrazing described. You have edited it since the rejection, too, but the history indicates you resubmitted it without changes prior to the rejection. 331dot (talk) 13:25, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It is true that some topic areas may be underserved due to a lack of coverage in independent reliable sources, but this requirement is necessary for verifiability purposes and in keeping with Wikipedia's mission to summarize such sources, not what a topic says about itself. 331dot (talk) 13:27, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Jopje dropje, Wikipedia is an encyclopedia for notable topics, not for writing about or promoting your own pet projects. KylieTastic (talk) 13:03, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
first of all, didn't wikipedia start off as a pet project? contracting nerds to do work for them without pay? second of all, how is an in-depth documentation about a sophisticated programming language, made by a team of people, considered "promoting"? an awnser would be much apreciated, although i am beginning to suspect you're just a troll Jopje dropje (talk) 13:14, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Jopje dropje. Firstly, please don't call @KylieTastic a troll. They are an experienced reviewer.
Wikipedia articles are not designed to simply state that a topic exists. You have GitHub or all the software listing sites for that. Instead, Wikipedia articles should paraphrase what reliable, independent, secondary sources state about a topic. The independent part of that is really important: we don't want to see articles (like your draft) where the only source is a link to the project homepage. That isn't enough to establish notability under the WP:NSOFTWARE criteria.
For your draft to be acceptable, you'd need to include significant coverage of the software in those reliable, independent, secondary sources. Tech magazines, reviews, etc. If there are no sources like that then there can be no article, unfortunately.
I hope that helps make you understand how Wikipedia articles work. Let me know if you have any questions. Qcne (talk) 13:24, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
that's fine. i would like to know some sources considered "reliable, independent and secondary" that are actually related to the topic (programming languages). Jopje dropje (talk) 13:29, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Jopje dropje Well, that's you to find as the author of the draft, but I would suggest as follows:
- Reliable: Your article should rely on strong, reliable sources that are published by reputable institutions. Primary sources can be used for basic facts (such as a date of creation), but they should be supplemented with strong secondary sources that offer analysis, review, discussion, or interpretation.
- Independent: Your sources should be independent of the subject, for example not self-published or from the subject's own website, and not interviews with people directly connected to the topic.
- Show significant coverage: Your subject should be discussed in detail in the sources you find. The sources should provide in-depth information or analysis about the subject, going beyond basic facts or promotional material.
- From multiple places: Ideally we would like to see three separate reliable, independent, secondary sources that discuss your subject.
- Not original research: Wikipedia articles should summarise existing knowledge about a subject, not present new research. This means you should avoid drawing your own conclusions or analyses from the sources. Stick to summarising what the sources say in a neutral tone.
Finally, your draft in it's current form also breaks the WP:NOTGUIDE, as it's really just a tutorial on how to install and use the software. That is appropriate for a README, but not Wikipedia!
I understand we have pretty strict rules and it can seem frustrating but it's the only way to ensure Wikipedia doesn't devolve into a self-promotional spammy SEO-farmed mess. Qcne (talk) 13:34, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
We can't find sources for you. It's your topic. You should have the sources in hand first before attempting the difficult task of writing a new article. Perhaps you could find other articles about programming(preferably good ones) to see what is looked for. 331dot (talk) 13:35, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Jopje dropje: when it's the makers of the software (or whatever) telling the world about their software (or whatever), that is by definition promoting - see WP:YESPROMO.
And let that groundless slur on KylieTastic be your last one. Thank you. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 13:33, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

19:40, 22 October 2023 review of submission by Eboss09

How do I get it inclusive on wiki? and what would you suggest I improve on. Eboss09 (talk) 19:40, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Eboss09, I have rejected your draft so there is nothing more you can do. It will not be considered further. Qcne (talk) 19:41, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

October 23

00:00, 23 October 2023 review of submission by Jrmango

Hello everyone, I would like to know if anybody could take a look at the draft I am writing, to see if the sources meet the notability requirements. If the link isn't already shared, this is the link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Mercedes-Benz_GLC_43

Thank you so much! 

- Jrmango Jrmango (talk) 00:00, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Jrmango, your draft is overtly promotional and is more suited to a Mercedes marketing brochure than a neutrally written encyclopedia article. The Neutral point of view is a core content policy, and following it is mandatory. Cullen328 (talk) 00:07, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Plus, we already have an article Mercedes-Benz GLC where the variants are discussed. Cullen328 (talk) 00:11, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
In regards to the neutral point of view, I wonder if Mercedes would include a big issue with the car in their marketing material. Jrmango (talk) 00:21, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I have made some edits and removed some of the language that made it sound like an ad for the car Jrmango (talk) 00:34, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Cullen328 Jrmango (talk) 00:34, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
You still have this utterly meaningless marketing language: It combines elegance with power, offering a comfortable ride and modern amenities, which is the sort of promotiomal language that every car company on Earth spits out. And you are directly addressing readers which is not permitted and giving prices on various options, which is not permitted. To be frank, your draft is pretty much worthless, Jrmango. Cullen328 (talk) 00:51, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Cullen328, It is not very kind to call someone’s work “worthless”. 76.82.37.201 (talk) 01:18, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
That is true, thank you @76.82.37.201 Jrmango (talk) 01:28, 23 October 2023 ( UTC)
IP editor, I offer frank assessments based on 14 years of experience editing Wikipedia. I recommended removing all promotional drivel and Jrmango left much of it in. Do you consider this draft "worthy"? Do you think that it has any redeeming qualities? Cullen328 (talk) 01:52, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Cullen328I believe that you still should not call something “worthless”. While @Jrmango could remove some more things, I find it to be an informative article. 76.82.37.201 (talk) 02:10, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I could have said "rejected" instead, new IP editor. Would that have been better? Cullen328 (talk) 02:31, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
IP user, Wikipedia articles are not for merely providing information. It provides information to tell you that Walmart has a sale on televisions, but that is not valid encyclopedia content. Not everything that is informative is acceptable here. 331dot (talk) 07:28, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

06:31, 23 October 2023 review of submission by Dinusha Jayaranga

My submission was get decline I am create in this biography for Dr. John Chresta if there anything i can prove this is authorised from the person let me know please Dinusha Jayaranga (talk) 06:31, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Dinusha Jayaranga That's exactly the problem - you're not supposed to write Wikipedia articles for someone who asked you to write one for them. -- asilvering (talk) 06:34, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Dinusha Jayaranga: this draft is basically a CV with a personal statement, and as such wholly inappropriate for an encyclopaedia. I'm surprised it was only declined, not rejected, but either way it is pending deletion. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:35, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
how can i add it to the wikipedia officially, can you help me that Dinusha Jayaranga (talk) 06:42, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Dinusha Jayaranga No, we're not going to help you upload someone's CV to wikipedia. -- asilvering (talk) 06:50, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
undersa Dinusha Jayaranga (talk) 06:59, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
understood, if i rewrite this in a biographical stand point without mentioning the personal details that much, and focused on the storyline as much as i can? please reply how can i fix this Dinusha Jayaranga (talk) 07:02, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Dinusha Jayaranga: I would suggest that you read a few biographical articles, especially ones rated good, to get an idea of what is required.
You need to first find sources that meet the WP:GNG standard for notability. You then summarise what those sources have said – you do not just write what you want, and even less what the subject wants you to write.
Speaking of which, the very next thing you should do is disclose your conflict of interest. I will post a message on your talk page with instructions. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:20, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

06:57, 23 October 2023 review of submission by Mrinmoy Sharma

please help me with this 

Mrinmoy Sharma (talk) 06:57, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Mrinmoy Sharma: I'm sorry, but you will need to be a lot more specific than that. What is your question?
That said, you should not be writing about yourself, see WP:AUTOBIO. And anything you do write, either in this draft or elsewhere, must be supported by reliable published sources. As it stands, your draft is just you telling the world about yourself, which is not what Wikipedia is about. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:23, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Mrinmoy Sharma, unreferenced biographies of living people are forbidden by policy, and your draft is entirely unreferenced. Plus, as you have already been informed, writing an autobiography is strongly discouraged. In my experience, over 99% of people who try to write an autobiography fail. The occasional successful results are people who are indisputably notable and who have taken the time to deeply understand Wikipedia's policies, guidelines and behavioral norms, and have the dedication to do some very challenging work for inexperienced editors. People like that are extremely rare. Your draft is nowhere near being close to being acceptable. Cullen328 (talk) 08:27, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

11:17, 23 October 2023 review of submission by Abayan leo

i have a published the article of a personality who is well known but declined 

 Abayan leo (talk) 11:17, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Abayan leo: just to be clear, you haven't published anything, you have submitted a draft, which has been declined, and you have then resubmitted it.
The draft has all sorts of issues, but it was mostly declined for lack of evidence of notability. On which point, "well known" is not what we're looking for; we need to see significant coverage of this person in multiple secondary sources that are reliable and independent of the subject. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 11:28, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@DoubleGrazing this was resubmitted after an 11 character "improvement" by Abayan Leo. I took the unusual step (for me) of reviewing for a second time with the suggestion that resubmission a further time without substantive improvement would probably lead to rejection. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 12:41, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

18:05, 23 October 2023 review of submission by BrendaBerry13

I don't understand what the issue with the language is. I've had many people read it and they feel it is neutral. Please tell me exactly what is not neutral and an example of what you're looking for. I use Wikipedia often and feel my article reads like they do. Please advise with some specifics. Thank you. BrendaBerry13 (talk) 18:05, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

BrendaBerry13, your draft relies on unreliable book sources. Rainbow Bridge Books is a fringe publisher. Morris Publishing is a self-publishing platform. Here are just a few of the inappropriate phrases and sentences: It refers to the time of transformation we live in now, on an individual, community, or global level. and It is an imaginary map of the universe, an archetypal cosmic landscape "energetically anchoring” to the curandero, a practitioner of curanderismo. and The Pachakuti Mesa Tradition is a living tradition taught to people worldwide and seen as a way to connect with the natural world to find healing and guidance. It is a container of spirit, a soul-infused artifact of the material world, a living and dynamic pattern upon and with which practitioners can consciously do personal and planetary energy healing work. and These teachings offer a vision of a more harmonious and integrated world and guide those seeking to cultivate greater awareness, compassion, and wisdom. I could go on and on. All of this language is highly promotional, and promotion of any kind is not permitted on Wikipedia. We never use that kind of language in Wikipedia's voice. Acceptable Wikipedia articles must be written in a rigorously neutral fashion. Acceptable sources for an ethnographic topic like this would be books written by scholars and published by university presses or articles published in peer-reviewed academic journals. Your current sources are weak. Cullen328 (talk) 18:47, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

19:43, 23 October 2023 review of submission by Charlotte Brum

I don't understand the detailed reasons why the article is been declined over and over again. Charlotte Brum (talk) 19:43, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Charlotte Brum. It's been declined once and now rejected by me. That's only two reviews. Frankly, though, your draft is entirely inappropriate for Wikipedia. It reads like an advert, only exists to promote the company, and has not a single source.
Please carefully read Your First Article and let me know if you have any specific questions.
If you created this article for your boss, please have them read WP:BOSS. If you paid the organisation money to create this article, please offer them a refund. Qcne (talk) 20:02, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the feedback. Can I understand why other translation companies do have an article on Wikipedia?
This one seems promotional: Lionbridge
This also seems promotional: Inc. (magazine) Charlotte Brum (talk) 21:24, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Charlotte Brum Please see other stuff exists. That said, your draft had no independent reliable sources. The main purpose of a Wikipedia article is to summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about (in this case) a company, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable company. Wikipedia is not interested in what a company says about itself.
Please see WP:COI and WP:PAID; if you are associated with this company, that must be disclosed. 331dot (talk) 23:08, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Would it help if I add clients reviews? Charlotte Brum (talk) 19:00, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It would help if you followed the advice I gave above. 331dot (talk) 19:12, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
When we tried adding resources from awards the company has won, Wikipedia said it was "promotional" Charlotte Brum (talk) 22:19, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Awards generally do not contribute to notability unless the award itself merits an article, like Academy Award or Nobel Peace Prize. 331dot (talk) 22:26, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

20:16, 23 October 2023 review of submission by 118.148.101.177

I am wondering if someone can please check this draft. I have changed it to say, Alex Kuch (born Alexander Marcus Dan Aurel Kuch) instead of Alexander Marcus Dan Aurel Kuch (born 19 April 1995). But not sure if that's suitable etc. Thank you. Really appreciate it. 118.148.101.177 (talk) 20:16, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The draft has been submitted and it is pending. 331dot (talk) 20:30, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

23:10, 23 October 2023 review of submission by JewelHL

Hi there, This Wikipedia page has been declined because of the referenced sources. The sources I referenced were from either Flicks' website or from press releases published by independent publications.

Since these were insufficient/unreliable, can you please provide examples of sources that would be considered acceptable to reference in this case? Aside from websites and independent publications, what sources would you expect a company Wikipedia page like this to reference? JewelHL (talk) 23:10, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@JewelHL: for notability per WP:GNG, we need to see significant coverage, directly of the subject, in multiple secondary sources (newspapers, magazines, TV or radio programmes, books, etc.) that are reliable and wholly independent of the subject. Your draft currently cites no such source.
In fact, the draft should be mostly written by summarising what these sources say, with each source cited against the information it has provided. That would also ensure that the contents are adequately referenced. In your draft, most of the content is unsupported by citations. Which among other things begs the question where, exactly, is that information coming from? -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 05:22, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia is not interested in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is only interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources.
It follows that the very first step in creating a Wikipedia article is to find several such sources, each of which meets the criteria in golden rule. Doing anything else before this is like building a house without surveying the site or consulting building regulations - i.e., probably a waste of time. ColinFine (talk) 17:17, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Review of Draft:General Catalyst

Hello! I recently submitted Draft:General Catalyst for submission and have added WP:notable sources. I made adjustments based on feedback, but the article has not been reviewed. Is there anyone who would be willing to give it a look and let me know what you think? Thanks! Justwatchmee (talk) 23:51, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Justwatchmee: as it says on top of the draft, "Review waiting, please be patient." We have over 3,000 drafts awaiting review, and we don't provide on-demand reviews here at the help desk. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 05:16, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
While you're waiting for review, please read NAMEDREF and consolidate multiple citations to the same source. It might not make a difference, but the length of the reference list to plough through is probably one of the things that reviewers look at in deciding whether or not to review a particular draft. ColinFine (talk) 17:21, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]


October 24

02:13, 24 October 2023 review of submission by Drcool 25

How to edit that it doesn't appear as promotional/advertisement Drcool 25 (talk) 02:13, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Drcool 25: you shouldn't be writing about a business you're associated with, as it is almost impossible for you to do it in a neutral, disinterested manner.
In any case, this draft has been rejected, so the question is somewhat redundant now. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 05:14, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

02:30, 24 October 2023 review of submission by Hamzaxeros

My page has been declined, I don't know the exact reason, And I am not familiar with Wikipedia, I read the auto biography policies, But I think I followed it, Kindly mention the exact things that are decline, Because I don't know what thing got wrong exactly. Thank you much for your service. Have a great day Hamzaxeros (talk) 02:30, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Hamzaxeros: you say you read the autobio 'policies', yet you went ahead a wrote one? Please have another look at WP:AUTOBIO.
This draft was declined because there is absolutely no indication of, and more to the point no evidence for, notability. The sources are primary, and mostly don't support anything in the draft. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 05:10, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

04:08, 24 October 2023 review of submission by Musitafa Kalyowa

I would like to help me with the best way I can reference this article to be accepted Kalyowa Musita (talk) 04:08, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Musitafa Kalyowa: this draft has been rejected, and will therefore not be considered further. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 05:06, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

05:36, 24 October 2023 review of submission by VishalParmar1

Re-submitted my article. VishalParmar1 (talk) 05:36, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@VishalParmar1: no, you haven't. And given that this draft was rejected already three months ago, you shouldn't, either. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 05:39, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

06:19, 24 October 2023 review of submission by Iamrohj

Mukesh Chhabra wikipedia Page has been deleted can you please look into it and let me know. and if possible revert it back again to the older version. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mukesh_Chhabra Iamrohj (talk) 06:19, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Iamrohj: it hasn't been deleted, but rather moved into the draft space, where it is awaiting review:  Courtesy link: Draft:Mukesh Chhabra. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:23, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

06:27, 24 October 2023 review of submission by HAjfdi

I want publish my own article because I am Student HAjfdi (talk) 06:27, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@HAjfdi: well, don't. Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, not a social media or blogging site. We publish articles on topics that are deemed notable. In any case, you should not be writing about yourself, see WP:AUTOBIO. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:35, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

08:54, 24 October 2023 review of submission by Sathish punarjan

wikipedia place to find small hospital to big hospitals information. is this wikipedia only for rich peoples and rich private sectors only. why you dont allow small hospital that serve with ayurveda Sathish punarjan (talk) 08:54, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Sathish punarjan: this draft (such as it is) is purely promotional, with no encyclopaedic content; accordingly, it has been rejected and is pending deletion. Wikipedia is not the right place for you to promote your hospital, you need to use other platforms for your marketing. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:59, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Sathish punarjan Wikipedia is not a business directory. See WP:NOTDIRECTORY. You should use social media to tell the world about this business. Note that Wikipedia summarizes the prevaling scientific consensus that Ayurveda is pseudoscientfic and has no evidence it is effective in treating cancer. 331dot (talk) 09:00, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

09:08:10, 24 October 2023 review of submission by Guinnesslassie


Hello, I have a query regarding the draft page Helen Leahey (musician/voice over artist). Although the article links to many independent, reliable news articles reporting on the artist it is being continuously declined. Are you able to say what is missing? The notability of the person in question is that she was the first Guinness World Record holder for Lowest Vocal Note by a female. Culturally this is significant as until her record, women were only awarded 'highest vocal note by a female'. The artist also has TV appearences (Voice Germany and Voice UK) and credit on IMDb for a voice over in a major film (Exorcist: Believer - 2023). Thank you in advance for any help with this matter. ~~~~ Guinnesslassie (talk) 09:08, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Guinnesslassie Please disclose your connection with Ms. Leahey; see conflict of interest and paid editing. You must have a connection since you took an image of her and she posed for you. This would include working for her directly or for the publishers of Guiness World Records.
You have documented her activities, but not summarized what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about her and what makes her a notable person. If it's the world record, you will need to offer sources that discuss that aspect of her more in depth than the sources you have currently. 331dot (talk) 09:15, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Guinness World Records confer zero notability, do you have a conflict of interest by any chance? Theroadislong (talk) 09:16, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Some of your posts suggest that you are Ms. Leahey, and others suggest you aren't. Only a single person should exclusively be operating your account. If you are her, writing about yourself is highly discouraged, please read the autobiography policy. 331dot (talk) 09:18, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your reply. I am Leahey's public manager and agree that it is of course more desirable for someone completely independent to write about the artist's activities. Leahey's significance has slipped under the radar until now. There are articles about persons with less credentials on Wikipedia. A quick google search will bring up countless articles about Leahey's activities and official press pictures from independent news outlets. Guinness World Records has officially published about Leahey and is sourced in the draft, a long with many independent news outlets which have also discussed Leahey and her public work to date in detail. To limit the risk of the article being permanently deleted, could you advise what would be the best way forward? Is this article being declined because of the question of notability or the sources used? Thank you very much in advance for any help. It is appreciated, especially as I am new to being a contributor here on Wikipedia. Guinnesslassie (talk) 09:56, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Guinnesslassie: given what you say, you must declare your paid-editing status; please do this as your very next edit. I will post information on this on your talk page. Thank you. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:59, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Guinnesslassie First, you must declare your paid relationship- this is a Terms of Use requirement and mandatory. See WP:PAID.
Please see other stuff exists. Existing inappropriate articles does not mean that more inappropriate articles should be added. As this is a volunteer project where people do what they can when they can, it is possible for inapproprpiate articles to get by us. We can only address what we know about. If you would like to help us, please identify any inappropriate articles you see for possible action.
Persons in your position trying to force the issue of creating an article are not usually successful; articles are typically written by independent editors wholly unconnected with the subject, who take note of coverage of a subject in independent reliable sources and choose on their own to write about it. Your client needs to be aware of the very good reasons to not want an article. We have no interest in publicity or marketing efforts to increase her exposure. Our only interest is in summarizing independent reliable sources. 331dot (talk) 10:03, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

10:25, 24 October 2023 review of submission by KannappaSara9

Have attached Reliable resources already. Can you guide me through what exactly the reliable sources need to be attached? KannappaSara9 (talk) 10:25, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@KannappaSara9: rather than piling the references together at the end like that, it would be best if you could cite them inline against the information they support; that way it would be much easier for the reviewer (and future readers) to see where the contents are coming from, and to verify them when required. See WP:REFB and WP:ILC for advice (or just do what you've already done with the two of them that are cited). -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:30, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

11:28, 24 October 2023 review of submission by Hsin Yu Chou

Hi! I have a problem understanding the problem of references i found for this article! Can someone please give me more specific guidance? Hsin Yu Chou (talk) 11:28, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Hsin Yu Chou: the sources cited are a blog, a press release, three cites of the company's own website, and one journal or similar. These are primary sources. Instead, we need to see significant coverage of the company, in multiple secondary sources that are reliable and wholly independent of the subject. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 11:36, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

15:26, 24 October 2023 review of submission by 49.204.208.101

there are literally no pages which are reliable that have in depth information on the topic 49.204.208.101 (talk) 15:26, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I have tidied up your draft a little if as you say there "are literally no pages which are reliable that have in depth information on the topic" then we cannot have an article, but I think there should be enough out there with a little searching. Theroadislong (talk) 15:54, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

17:03, 24 October 2023 review of submission by Janlopi

Could someone help me find out what specifically in my article has an unencyclopedic tone? I don’t exactly understand how it is written like an essay and not an article. Janlopi (talk) 17:03, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Janlopi. Wikipedia articles usually paraphrase what reliable, independent, secondary sources state about a topic. Your draft however seems to make an assertation about Catholicism' influence on music which is only backed up by the fraryguitar.com source as far as I can see.
You may have written this draft WP:BACKWARDS, where you've wanted to write a topic and then tried to find sources to back it up. You need to find the sources first.
I think this topic may be viable as an article, but I wonder if it would be better served as part of the History sections (fully sourced) in the existing articles of Gregorian Chant, Solfege, and Classical Music? Qcne (talk) 18:32, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I had like way more sources, mustve deleted them on accident. Thank you so much actually I did’nt know what I did. Also that is a good point, I might do that. Thank you so much <3 Janlopi (talk) 21:04, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, Janlopi. Another mistake that inexperienced editors often make is to load up their drafts with large numbers of low-quality sources. Not only does this not help get a favourable review (a thousand low-quality sources do not add up to one high-quality one) but it may also make the draft less attractive to a reviewer, who will have to wade through the dross looking for a nugget.
I suggest that you look critically at every single source you are proposing to cite, and ask
  1. is it reliably published? - ie, by a reputable publisher not a user-generated website (such as a wiki or blog) or a vanity publisher or pay-to-publish journal;
  2. is it independent of the subject? - this may be less relevant for your topic, but if for example most of the work in this area has been done by one person or one team, we need sources wholly unconnected with that team;
  3. does it contain significant coverage of the subject? - not passing mentions, or routine information. In your case, that will be sources specifically about Catholicism's effect on music - sources about Catholicism, or music, or even catholic music, will generally not cut it, and attempting to argue from them is likely to be synthesis, which is a form of original research, and not permitted. Generally, information which is related to the subject but not about the subject, should not be cited at all, but should instead be wikilinked to whatever article we already have on that topic.
See WP:42 for a more information.
ColinFine (talk) 17:07, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you so much. I will be working on making my sources more reliable and make sure the article is even needed. Thank you <3 Janlopi (talk) 21:25, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

17:16, 24 October 2023 review of submission by Loganschuchard

I need help submitting my project for English. Loganschuchard (talk) 17:16, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You cannot create a new article for the subject we already have one here Rachel Eliza Griffiths your draft is also unreferenced so of no use whatsoever. Theroadislong (talk) 17:22, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Loganschuchard: by "submitting my project for English" do you mean that you're working on some sort of school or college homework project? In which case, please tell your teacher that this isn't what Wikipedia is about. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 17:31, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

17:38, 24 October 2023 review of submission by Caucasian127

This page need to be moved on a article Caucasian127 (talk) 17:38, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Caucasian127 your draft is in the pool to be reviewed, there are over 3000 other drafts waiting for review. Please be patient. A review may take four or more months. Qcne (talk) 18:28, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

18:39, 24 October 2023 review of submission by Hailey4818

why was it declined Hailey4818 (talk) 18:39, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Hailey4818 Your draft was completely inappropriate for Wikipedia and will soon be deleted. It has been rejected and will not be considered further. Please use Facebook or another social media website to promote quack theories. Qcne (talk) 18:41, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

October 25

07:22, 25 October 2023 review of submission by Sayerhsdilip

Why my article submission was declined I need your assistance to understand the reason behind declining my article submission. So that i can revise the article and re-share for review. Sayerhsdilip (talk) 07:22, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sayerhsdilip I fixed your request to include a link to your draft as intended.
First, if you work for this company, the Terms of Use require that to be disclosed, please read WP:PAID as well as WP:COI.
Wikipedia is not a place to tell about a company and what it does. A Wikipedia article about a company must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the company, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable company. "Significant coverage" is that which goes beyond merely telling what the company does and goes into detail about what is significant/important/influential about the company as the source sees it(not as the company itself might see it). Your draft does not do this, it merely describes the offerings of the company with promotional language("one stop shop"; "convenient and seamless", etc.). Much of the draft is also unsourced. Please read Your First Article. 331dot (talk) 07:34, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

07:29, 25 October 2023 review of submission by Musitafa Kalyowa

Can I resubmit this article for review? Kalyowa Musita (talk) 07:29, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No, it has been rejected and will not be considered further- no amount of editing can confer notability on a topic. 331dot (talk) 07:36, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
If you have an association with this person, it needs to be disclosed, please see your user talk page for more information. If you are employed by or otherwise compensated by this person, the Terms of Use require that to be disclosed. 331dot (talk) 07:38, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

07:40, 25 October 2023 review of submission by VPNMage

Why is topic contrary to purpose of Wikipedia? There are lots of Wikipedia pages for VPN companies. I made some changes but now don't know how to submit article for revision again. VPNMage (talk) 07:40, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@VPNMage your article has been rejected and will not be considered further. It's only purpose is to advertise and promote the VPN, which is prohibited on Wikipedia. Qcne (talk) 07:42, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Then you should delete this article too: NordVPN. It is much more focused on advertising. VPNMage (talk) 08:01, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
No, it's not. It provides a summary of what independent reliable sources say about the company- not merely documenting its activities. 331dot (talk) 08:32, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Also note that not every company merits a Wikipedia article- even in the same field. Competitors meriting articles does not automatically mean that your company does too. See WP:OSE.
I fixed your disclosure for proper display(you had coding in place to suppress it). 331dot (talk) 08:33, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ok then. I will try to create similar article as NordVPN. Now I know what to look at.
Thank you. VPNMage (talk) 08:50, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@VPNMage if you feel you can write a draft that passes the WP:NORG requirements and is written in a way that is compatible with WP:NPOV, ping me on my user talk page and I will have another look. Qcne (talk) 08:52, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
My advice is that you set aside everything you know about your company, all materials it puts out, and the mere reporting of its activities, and only summarize what independent sources choose to say about your company. 331dot (talk) 08:53, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

09:48, 25 October 2023 review of submission by DC1973

My proposed article for author Darren Charlton has been declined. I have now cited coverage of the author's book deal in Bookseller magazine. Peviously, I cited reviews of the author's works in both The Times and The Guardian and where works have been shortlisted for prominent literary awards such as the Costa Book Awards. Can you please advise if this will be enough to qualify for acceptance and if not , what more could be provided so that it may be? Thank you. DC1973 (talk) 09:48, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@DC1973: you have resubmitted the draft, so you will receive an assessment when a reviewer gets around to checking it. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 14:35, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

09:48, 25 October 2023 review of submission by Ricazevedo

Hi, my name is Ricardo. I have been trying to post a new article on Wikipedia about the scientific biography of a researcher in my field, Dr Carlos Rogerio Figueiredo, and have faced issues.

I was required to revise my submission to be impartial and written in a formal tone of Wikipedia. I then completely revised the article and resubmitted it. However, I was informed that my submission appears to be an advertisement, which is not the case and doesn't make sense.

The article merely describes Dr Figueiredo's career and scientific tracking record, and the interpretation of "advertisement" is subjective, as describing any biography could also be a form of disseminating that person's career and life achievements.

Therefore, I was wondering if you could help me address the specific parts in the text that are causing the problem so I could move forward with this article submission.

I would really appreciate your assistance.

Kind regards

Ricardo Ricazevedo (talk) 09:48, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ricazevedo First you must disclose your connection to this person, since you took a picture of him and he posed for you. See WP:COI and WP:PAID.
You did a great job documenting this person's activities, but that's not what we are looking for. We want a summary of what independent reliable sources say is important/significant/influential about this person- how they meet the special Wikipedia definition of a notable person. 331dot (talk) 13:02, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
In response to valuable feedback, I've revised my Wikipedia article by reducing excessive detail and emphasizing key milestones. I've also added credible references for the biographical sections, while maintaining well-sourced statements about research. To ensure neutrality, I've either removed potentially promotional phrases or ensured they're adequately referenced. These amendments reflect a commitment to upholding Wikipedia's high standards, and I deeply appreciate the community guidance. Ricazevedo (talk) 17:28, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Again, you must disclose your connection to this person. 331dot (talk) 17:30, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

11:34, 25 October 2023 review of submission by EKHrvatska

Dear help, I do not know how to ad references in EN version of the text when they are not existent in Wikipedia arena. I added official references from the official European Commission Representation in Croatia. User EKHrvatska Thank you for your swift treply. EKHrvatska (talk) 11:34, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@EKHrvatska: see WP:REFB for advice on correct referencing using inline citations and footnotes.
You also need to show that the organisation is notable. Currently the references are all to its own website, which is a non-independent primary source.
Finally, you appear to have a relationship with the subject. I've posted a message on your talk page with advice on handing this. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:02, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
OK, understood. I would like to know how to do it (actually what to report under the CoI, the page is long and takes so much time to read). If I add couple of links like:
https://www.index.hr/vijesti/clanak/u-zagrebu-proslavljeno-10-godina-od-ulaska-u-eu-plenkovic-hrvati-mogu-biti-ponosni/2475874.aspx
U Kući Europe Hrvati mogu doznati sve o pravima građana EU - Poslovni dnevnik
Otvorena Kuća Europe u Zagrebu | europski-fondovi.eu (archive.org)
Još jedna ceremonija: Otvorili Kuću Europe u centru Zagreba - Net.hr
and
Kuća Europe u Zagrebu – Wikipedija (wikipedia.org) Hopefully it will be OK? EKHrvatska (talk) 12:23, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@EKHrvatska: I couldn't tell you without looking at those sources in detail whether or not they establish notability per WP:GNG, but I can tell you that the last one, the Croatian Wikipedia article, does not count.
I'll reply to your COI question on your user page. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 14:22, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, the four below listed are Croatian news portals.
https://www.index.hr/vijesti/clanak/u-zagrebu-proslavljeno-10-godina-od-ulaska-u-eu-plenkovic-hrvati-mogu-biti-ponosni/2475874.aspx
U Kući Europe Hrvati mogu doznati sve o pravima građana EU - Poslovni dnevnik
Otvorena Kuća Europe u Zagrebu | europski-fondovi.eu (archive.org)
Još jedna ceremonija: Otvorili Kuću Europe u centru Zagreba - Net.hr
EKHrvatska (talk) 14:36, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

13:21, 25 October 2023 review of submission by 180.188.243.126

why my article is rejected 180.188.243.126 (talk) 13:21, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not a website to compare services. Qcne (talk) 13:30, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

14:03, 25 October 2023 review of submission by Stephenjkrajewski

Hi you have rejected Nomad eSIM for the following:

in-depth (not just passing mentions about the subject) reliable secondary independent of the subject I think that these are all met - two articles that go in-depth on the use Nomad, from the NYT and WSJ (reliable), secondary (very much so they review the app without any connection to us) and certainly independent. What needs to happen to get approval? Thank you. 

Stephenjkrajewski (talk) 14:03, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Stephenjkrajewski: I haven't read the NYT and WSJ articles, but even if they do meet the WP:GNG standard, two isn't enough, need at least one more. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 14:13, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, so the the issue is the number of references not the references we've given. I will see if we have a third of that type. I will get back to you - thank you for your help. Stephen Stephenjkrajewski (talk) 14:24, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Stephenjkrajewski: like I said, I've not checked these sources as they're behind a pay wall, only assumed based on what you say that they meet the WP:GNG standard for notability. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 14:32, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Sources need to cover the topic in-depth, yours certainly don't, some don't even mention the subject others are just listings. Passing the criteria at WP:NCORP is NOT easy and you are nowhere near passing it. Theroadislong (talk) 14:40, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks - if the article we're creating is about the simple of factual existence of an mobile application and it is used by thousands of people every month (which can be verified) and exists on the two major app stores and has been reviewed by actual users, why then is the bar so high in terms of reference? It would help if you had an example of a wiki reference of a mobile app that has been verified so we can match what they have done. Stephenjkrajewski (talk) 14:49, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Millions of things exist, but we don't have articles about them, the simple factual existence of a mobile application is not a reason to have an article about it? Theroadislong (talk) 14:55, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Stephenjkrajewski: number of users is a meaningless metric as far as notability is concerned, as is where one might buy this app. The only thing that matters here is the sources, and whether they satisfy WP:GNG.
As for comparing with other articles, that is pretty futile, unless those articles have been rated as good, as otherwise you may simply replicate whatever problems they have. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 14:55, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@DoubleGrazing FYI: NYT articles are readable if you turn of JavaScript support for the site. The same trick does not work for the WSJ. KylieTastic (talk) 15:18, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

16:27, 25 October 2023 review of submission by Nayeem150

I want to make Nayeem150 (talk) 16:27, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Nayeem150 Nope, your draft was rejected and will not be considered further. Qcne (talk) 16:29, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Nayeem150: this draft (such as it is) has been rejected and won't therefore be considered further.
For future reference, please see WP:YFA and WP:REFB for advice on article creation and referencing, respectively. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 16:29, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

17:00, 25 October 2023 review of submission by Emilydenver

I can't find reliable sources for the page as the news published is by articles. What do I do? Emilydenver (talk) 17:00, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Emilydenver: I've no idea what you mean by "the news published is by articles". -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 17:07, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The tone is not appropriate " thirst for knowledge and personal growth" "her heart remained dedicated" " revered institution" "a pivotal career move" 'a remarkable milestone" please re-write in a dry neutral tone. Theroadislong (talk) 17:10, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

17:38, 25 October 2023 review of submission by Plato.franco

What can I do to make my sources better to make sure next time I submit this article it passes? Plato.franco (talk) 17:38, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Plato.franco: a key purpose of referencing is to tell the reader where the information came from, so that in can be verified. For example in the 'Biographical Information' section there is only one source cited, which doesn't seem to say anything about which high school she went to (irrelevant) or that her family moved to Sweden (ditto). So if those details don't come from that source, where do they come from? -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 18:11, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

18:13, 25 October 2023 review of submission by Mikivikipeditor

The topic is was refused for not meeting notability criteria, yet it has been covered by multiple(5 in sources, i can find more if needed) diferent, independent, reliable sources, which matches the general notability guideline. Mikivikipeditor (talk) 18:13, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Mikivikipeditor Balkan Physical Union is a primary source and not independent so not helpful for establishing notability nor are routine announcements about the event. For example, this source is a routine announcement. Take a look at the notability guidelines for events which is the relevant notability guideline. S0091 (talk) 20:33, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

20:00, 25 October 2023 review of submission by 103.206.205.213

I am trying to get an article about GRV Media approved purely as the company is referenced in the article about its flagship website HITC (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HITC). However it is constantly rejected due to not having independent references and the use of press releases etc. Is there any specific minimum article length? I have added references to the gov.uk website showing the legitimacy of the GRV Media limited company (which also lists the founders as mentioned in this article). The company has recently surpassed 100m page views per month across its portfolio of websites making it one of the UK's largest independent publishers. What else can I do to prove the legitimacy of the article and content therein?

Thank you 

103.206.205.213 (talk) 20:00, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hi IP. Wikipedia is is not a directory so existing is not enough. Did you read through all the links in the decline notices that outline the notability criteria? The number of views is meaningless so are any sources that emanate from the company such a press releases and routine announcements like acquistions are considered trivial coverage. This is all outlined if you follow the links and read through the material. S0091 (talk) 20:24, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ok. Understood - I thought the press release would be valid as it wasn't emanated by GRV Media themselves. But rather a 3rd party independent and established publisher. Ok. Let me put together some better citations and sources before I resubmit again. Thanks for the feedback 103.206.205.213 (talk) 20:37, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
A press release is by definition "emanated by" the company in question. Drmies (talk) 21:59, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I think you are confusing third-party with independence. The content within a source needs to be intellectually independent. Meaning even if a press release is published by WSJ, Financial Times, etc. all they are doing is regurgitating what the company says about itself so not an independent source. However, if they provide their own independent analysis, research, etc. not solely based on what the company says, then that may be used but it needs to be in-depth. S0091 (talk) 22:17, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]


October 26

02:08, 26 October 2023 review of submission by Rogen27

I don't know what to add. I'm creating a article about may self Rogen27 (talk) 02:08, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There is nothing to add, this isn't a social media site. It is an encyclopedia on notable topics. The draft has been rejected and will not be considered further.McMatter (talk)/(contrib) 02:25, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

06:12, 26 October 2023 review of submission by Danceguru1212

My request for submission has been rejected twice. I have made several changes to improve my chances of acceptance, some of which are based on feedback from the help desk. Is there a limit on the number of times an article is rejected after which it gets declined? Can anyone help me with what else I need to change in the article to improve my chances of acceptance? Danceguru1212 (talk) 06:12, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Danceguru1212 You must disclose your connection to this person, please see WP:COI and WP:PAID. There is not a specific limit on the number of times a draft may be resubmitted, as long as you are showing progress and the person seems to be notable. If you don't show progress, though, your draft nay be rejected. 331dot (talk) 11:06, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

06:27, 26 October 2023 review of submission by Muntasirahmmed

Hi, I want to post one article on my company TAKO. I am a TAKO's permanent staff. Would you please accept my writing that is in draft in my sandbox? please? Muntasirahmmed (talk) 06:27, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Muntasirahmmed. Absolutely not. Your draft was completely inappropriate for Wikipedia and I have rejected it, so it will not be considered further. Wikipedia is not a vehicle to advertise or spam your company. Use LinkedIn or Facebook for that.
You also failed to make a paid editing disclosure which is a breach of the Wikimedia Terms of Use. If you are to try and edit again in topics involved with your company, you must make this disclosure. Follow the tutorial at WP:PAID. If you do not make this disclosure you will be blocked from editing.
I also notice you added copyrighted material from your company to the draft. This is prohibited. Qcne (talk) 06:55, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Muntasirahmmed You must make the paid editing disclosure, a Terms of Use requirement and mandatory. You should also read conflict of interest.
Your sandbox(which I have fixed the link to go to) was deleted as blatant promotion and its content was wholly inappropriate for an encyclopedia. Wikipedia is not a place for companies to tell the world about themselves. A Wikipedia article about an organization must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the organization, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable organization. Articles are typically written by independent editors wholly unconnected with the topic; company representatives rarely succeed in doing as Wikipedia requires. 331dot (talk) 08:35, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

08:05, 26 October 2023 review of submission by Zarakhanmahi757

Zarakhanmahi757 I removed the tags you placed here, which are for the draft talk page. You don't ask a quesiton, but your draft was rejected and will not be considered further. 331dot (talk) 08:28, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

08:15, 26 October 2023 review of submission by Logi0256

Hello, after several attempts to create my article, it has been rejected several times. I've being doing the pertinent changes asked in order to respect wikipedia's policy. The content is informative and not as an advertisement. I would like to ask for your help so I can achieve the publication of my article. Thank you in advance. Logi0256 (talk) 08:15, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Logi0256 First, if you are associated with this agency, that must be declared, please see WP:COI and WP:PAID.
Your draft was declined several times before being rejected- there is a distinction between "declined"(which means a draft may be resubmitted) and "rejected"(which means a draft may not be resubmitted). Wikipedia is not a place to merely tell about an organization and what it does, especially in the format you chose, which is like an About page on the organization website. A Wikipedia article about an organization must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the organization, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable organization. Your draft did not do this, so it was correctly rejected and will not be considered further. 331dot (talk) 08:31, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

09:14, 26 October 2023 review of submission by Wisest Arab

Hello

Please i would like to ask for assistance to correct the mistakes in my article to pass the review and the article be published

Thank you Wisest Arab (talk) 09:14, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wisest Arab Please disclose your connection with this person; see WP:COI and WP:PAID.
Wikipedia is not a place to merely tell about someone and their accomplishments. A Wikipedia article about a person must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the person, showing how they meet the special Wikipedia definition of a notable person. Please read Your First Article. 331dot (talk) 09:19, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Wisest Arab: it's mostly unreferenced, which is totally unacceptable in an article on a living person, and the few sources there are don't establish notability per WP:GNG. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:20, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

09:37, 26 October 2023 review of submission by 103.117.237.110

Why did you decline my article? It was real information. 103.117.237.110 (talk) 09:37, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You draft was a blatant advertisement. 331dot (talk) 09:41, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia is not interested in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is only interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. ColinFine (talk) 15:02, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

10:53, 26 October 2023 review of submission by Drmohammadimath

Why has been declined my draft? The previous time that this article was declined I had been used footnotes for references...and the helping guys in the help page told me that it is not good to use footnotes...So I had to delete them and used external links...but this time it has been declined and they told me why do not you use footnotes....It is very strange and I do not know why Wikipedia is bothering me and reject an article about one of the best Mathematicians in Italy!!! All the things I have written in this article are true and I put all the references! 

Drmohammadimath (talk) 10:53, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Drmohammadimath. Every single source you have used is a paper or book or article written by Stefano. This means they are not independent of the subject, which means you have not proven that Stefano passes the WP:NACADEMIC criteria. Qcne (talk) 10:57, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

11:09, 26 October 2023 review of submission by Akakachan

yuy Akakachan (talk) 11:09, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Akakachan: you don't ask a question, but this draft has been rejected, as there already exists an article on the same topic at Avengers: Infinity War. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 11:16, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

14:45, 26 October 2023 review of submission by Ryanatour1

why was this rejected can i get a specific reason Ryanatour1 (talk) 14:45, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Ryanatour1: let's turn this around – can you give me even one specific reason why this should be included in a global encyclopaedia? Because I sure can't think of any. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 14:53, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
entirely unsourced and there is zero indication of the subject being notable.Theroadislong (talk) 14:54, 26 October 2023 (UTC)±[reply]
The subject is notable if the person it is written about is notable Ryanatour1 (talk) 14:59, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Quite so. Therein lies the rub. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 15:02, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Because Sebastian Munoz Rodriguez is a household name that should be cherished by all Ryanatour1 (talk) 14:58, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nonsense. Blocked as NOTHERE. 331dot (talk) 15:03, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

17:18, 26 October 2023 review of submission by Macpacgov

I don't understand the reason my article was declined. Macpacgov (talk) 17:18, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

OP blocked for username and promotion. 331dot (talk) 17:20, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

17:25, 26 October 2023 review of submission by Xpillz

my submission not qualifies for Wikipedia article Xpillz (talk) 17:25, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed, @Xpillz, your draft does not qualify for an article. Do you have any further questions? Qcne (talk) 17:27, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
But I have provided citation and arrange everything,what could be missing or what more left to be fixed so that it can be acceptable Xpillz (talk) 17:37, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Your citations do not prove this person meets the WP:SINGER criteria. Qcne (talk) 17:40, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Xpillz most of the sources are not reliable (no evidence of editorial oversight, history of fact-checking, some offer promotional services which means they are not reliable or independent, etc.). S0091 (talk) 17:44, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

18:12, 26 October 2023 review of submission by Sachake94

I've submitted a wikipedia draft for a fintech marketer in Sri Lanka. With website references of the figure -Business magazines feature article about him -Business news site feature article about him -An article he wrote which was published on a leading newspaper -A brand blog of a fintech app in Sri Lanka talking about an innovation he did.

Someone has rejected my article saying the person is not noteworthy! I think that's completely insane Sachake94 (talk) 18:12, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Sachake94 let's go through your sources one by one:
1) economynext.com, an interview so cannot be used to establish notability. See WP:INDEPENDENT.
2) echelon.lk, the... same interview? see above.
3) frimi.lk, a blog post so not WP:RELIABLE. Also barely talks about the guy
4) apidm.lk, a staff page, so not WP:INDEPENDENT.
5) apidm.lk, another staff page, so not WP:INDEPENDENT.
So, how exactly do you believe this person meets the WP:NBASIC criteria? Qcne (talk) 18:22, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

19:02, 26 October 2023 review of submission by Jhulford

Im sorry; I feel as if I submitted quite a few references and citations. How can I improve this so I can help give this library it's own wiki article? Jhulford (talk) 19:02, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Jhulford. Unfortunately every single source you've provided is WP:PRIMARY as its either from the library itself or from an organisation closely connected to the library.
Respectfully, any organisation can pump out whatever sort of advertising they want about themselves. Wikipedia is only interested in what reliable, independent, secondary sources have to say about the organisation.
Check the criteria at WP:NORG. Qcne (talk) 19:13, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I added some better citations to outside sources is this any better? I would appreciate your advice. Jhulford (talk) 19:54, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Much of the draft is worded as advertising- the library describing its services and offerings. This does not establish notability. Wikipedia is primarily interested in what others say about the library. 331dot (talk) 08:20, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

19:06, 26 October 2023 review of submission by JimmyTommm

What is this article lacking? It is a webpage informing people about the mustache club. JimmyTommm (talk) 19:06, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not the place to tell people about your club. That's what social media is for. When the news writes about your club and what makes it a notable organization, let us know. 331dot (talk) 19:10, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
JimmyTommm, the relevant guideline is Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not for things made up one day. Cullen328 (talk) 00:48, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

19:45, 26 October 2023 review of submission by Hamody Saif is back

Why did you treat on me Hamody Saif is back (talk) 19:45, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Hamody Saif is back. You didn't bother to source it after being given 2 chances to do so and thus the draft was rejected. Please read WP:GNG. Regards, Seawolf35 (talk - email) 23:07, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

October 27

04:01, 27 October 2023 review of submission by Midwesterngal

I have left things on the talk page, but this keeps getting declined each time for slightly different reasons - it's getting difficult to know what to fix. I initially got advice on seeking out more reviews. It was "too many primary sources" at one point because interviews are bad. So we found more reviews and more information. Now it appears sources aren't good - but I don't know which ones. I can and will keep digging, but it's starting to feel like I'm doing this in the dark - for a person who is already listed multiple times in Wikipedia. But this is frustrating. I would also just like to note that as someone new to this, the feeling is that I'm trying to do something dreadfully wrong when I'm simply trying to fill in a blank. Is Matt Weinhold the missing George Clooney page someone forgot to do? No. But has he been consistently contributing to the pop culture landscape across multiple genres for 20 years? Absolutely. Will multiple people recognize the work that would not exist without him? This is also true. At the same time, I'm trying to overcome the gatekeeping here and I'm not getting plain assistance. I get links to articles that have a lot of contradictory advice that I am sure makes sense if you've written 100s of articles and is definitely advantageous if you're looking to decline something. 

Midwesterngal (talk) 04:01, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Midwesterngal I am taking a look at this and will respond on the draft's talk page. S0091 (talk) 14:45, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

04:57, 27 October 2023 review of submission by Muktar H Abdullahi

To be more effective or more experience person on how to edits Wikipedia or any other Wikipedia project. 

Muktar H Abdullahi (talk) 04:57, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Muktar H Abdullahi. Your draft was not appropriate for Wikipedia and has been rejected. Wikipedia is not a blogging platform- articles only exist to summarise and paraphrase what reliable independent sources state about a topic. It is not a place for essays or original research. Qcne (talk) 07:40, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

05:02, 27 October 2023 review of submission by Rksamson

My draft is being rejected. kindly help Rksamson (talk) 05:02, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Rksamson: this draft has been rejected (twice), and will therefore not be considered further. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:19, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

13:37, 27 October 2023 review of submission by Yeszzzz

Hello dear admins, I’ve submitted the draft and still didn’t get answers can you guys please check on it. Thanks Yeszzzz (talk) 13:37, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Yeszzzz: did you happen to notice the text on top of the draft?
"Review waiting, please be patient. This may take 4 months or more, since drafts are reviewed in no specific order. There are 3,380 pending submissions waiting for review."
You resubmitted this yesterday. It will be reviewed in due course. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 13:50, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oh I didn’t notice thanks Yeszzzz (talk) 14:22, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

13:51, 27 October 2023 review of submission by Narresh22

can i know more information about this article why it been blocked. Narresh22 (talk) 13:51, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It has not been "blocked" whatever that means Draft:Vimal Nair Suresh has been declined because it has no content and looks like a test edit. Theroadislong (talk) 13:53, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

14:30, 27 October 2023 review of submission by Peter Garlands

Hi! Theres 5 medical white papers with all the links and citations but Ive got declined for not having solid info, is there anyone can help me out with this? Peter Garlands (talk) 14:30, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It is written like an advertisement, for instance "has proven to be an effective solution to address challenges in ultrasound teaching and has revolutionized how medical professionals acquire ultrasound skills." is just marketing trumpery. Theroadislong (talk) 14:49, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I have added 5 white papers supporting that statment its not just marketing. But Ok, Im erasing that. IS there anything else I need to delete? thanks Peter Garlands (talk) 14:56, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Five sections have zero sources, it is ALL written in a promotional way and it is most definitely marketing and NOT an encyclopaedia article, do you work for them by any chance? Theroadislong (talk) 15:03, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
They all have linke they are above, have you read the article? Peter Garlands (talk) 15:05, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Have you read your first article and WP:COI? Theroadislong (talk) 15:09, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
And you should note that the sourcing requirements are stricter in medical articles: see WP:MEDRS. ColinFine (talk) 15:23, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Peter Garlands I am declining this again as it is so clearly written as a PR piece. Wikipedia is NOT to be used for advertising or promotion, which this draft does. Please do not re-submit again without addressing the lack of in-line citations and the wholly inappropriate tone. Further re-submissions without addressing will lead to a rejection. Qcne (talk) 16:23, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Its not an advertising, Im trying to make a wikipedia article but I have no clue of what is the advertising part of the article, I ve already deleted the sentence that was remarked as "promotional" what else should I delete? Peter Garlands (talk) 16:37, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Peter Garlands Honestly? it needs a complete re-write. Nuke it and start from scratch, it is not salvageable in it's current state. You must write in a completely dispassionate way. Make no assertions. Avoid all WP:PEACOCK language. Only summarise and paraphrase what reliable secondary independent sources state about the device.
You also still have not confirmed if you are being paid to write this article, as requested multiple times on your User Talk Page. Failure to declare is a breach of Wikimedia Terms and Conditions and will lead you to be blocked from editing. You must do this now. Qcne (talk) 16:43, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, yes Im beeing paid, its my job to write an article for wikipedia, but im not allowed to do any advertising and Im not even trying. I will try to rewrite from scratch thanks Peter Garlands (talk) 16:53, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Peter Garlands You must make a paid editing disclosure immediately. Follow the instructions at WP:PAID. Failure to do so will result in you being blocked from editing.
I would highly recommend you very carefully read When your boss tells you to edit Wikipedia. Qcne (talk) 16:58, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia is not interested in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is only interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources.. Once you have made the mandatory declaration, find several sources that meet WP:MEDRS, and are wholly independent of the company and of anybody who was involved in developing the product or in research that led to the product. If you can find several such sources, you can go ahead and forget absolutely everything you know about the company and the product and write a summary of those sources. (Do you see why editing with a COI is hard?) ColinFine (talk) 22:24, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

16:30, 27 October 2023 review of submission by Beatrice Brooklyn

Hello! This draft was declined for submission because the reviewer felt the sourcing was not verifiable. I have gone through and removed any citation that could be seen as a personal blog (though these were blogs by critics and theatre writers) and have removed citations from sources Reisman herself would have input on such as the New Play Exchange. I have also deleted a link to a talk she gave on YouTube. Every other source is a from a national or regional newspaper such as The New York Times or Austin Chronicle, a major trade journal such as American Theatre Magazine, Howlround, or Broadway World, or a theatre organization's website. I've looked at other living playwrights such as Annie Baker and Martyna Majok while creating this page and they use many of the same sources. I can add citations to Reisman's list of Produced Plays but this seemed like overkill as they were mostly referenced in the previous sections. Let me know if this sourcing seems adequate and I'll resubmit. I have reached out to the reviewer for clarification but have yet to hear back. Thank you for your time and guidance! Beatrice Brooklyn (talk) 16:30, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Beatrice Brooklyn. I've had a look at all your sources. I think it passes the threshold now and would accept if you re-submitted.
It's worth noting for the future- try not to compare your draft to existing articles (or if you do, choose a WP:GOOD one). Wikipedia has many thousands of articles that are poor quality and should be improved or deleted, but no volunteer has gotten around to it yet. Qcne (talk) 20:54, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Qcne, thanks so much for taking the time to look it over and for the tip about comparisons- both are much appreciated! I will resubmit. Beatrice Brooklyn (talk) 10:06, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

18:52, 27 October 2023 review of submission by Wordsmith.ch

The article has been rejected. We have 2 questions: 1. When writing the article we based the structure and content on an article about the Swiss National Science Foundation. We very careful to use objective language. We would be interested to hear why the submission "seems to read more like an advertisement", with some specific examples so that the text can be improved. 2. We are unable to provide further published sources about Euresearch. Why is our article being rejected for this when there is a related article without any sources? The article, in German, is about the "National Contact Points": https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationale_Kontaktstellen. There are National Contact Points in all the European countries. The ones for Switzerland are part of the Euresearch network that our article covers. Wordsmith.ch (talk) 18:52, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Wordsmith.ch The article has only been declined, not rejected. Rejected would mean it won't be considered further. Who is "we"? Wikipedia accounts can only be used by one person.
The German Wikipedia is a separate project with it's own policies and guidelines. What is acceptable there might not be acceptable here. The English Wikipedia does have the strictest content guidelines.
The problem with your article is that it does not show any evidence that Euresearch passes the WP:NORG criteria. We need to see significant coverage of the organisation in reliable, independent, secondary sources. Your three sources are all connected to the subject unfortunately. Can you find articles in newspapers or magazines that discuss this organisation? They do not have to be in English and can be offline.
Finally, the copy does read like an advert as it is telling the world about Euresearch. I wouldn't call the language promotional per se, but it reads like the kind of content you'd find on an About Us section of a website. This is the opposite of how English Wikipedia articles should be written: instead you should be paraphrasing what those reliable, independent, secondary sources state about Euresearch.
If you can't find those sources that we require, you might think about simply reworking the draft to an existing Wikipedia page, such as Framework Programmes for Research and Technological Development.
Hope that helps, but let me know if you have any questions. Qcne (talk) 19:34, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your help. Can you please explain how the Euresearch article differs from the article I based it on: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_National_Science_Foundation
That also reads like an About Us section. It talks about their magazine and has sources derived from its own website. Wordsmith.ch (talk) 21:53, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Wordsmith.ch That article is fairly poorly sourced and wouldn't be accepted in it's present state if submitted now. It was first created in 2005 when our policies and guidelines were much more lax. If you were going to base your draft on an existing one, use a WP:GOOD one. Unfortunately we have thousands of poor quality articles that no one has gotten around to improving yet. I understand this is a frustrating process- it's difficult to write a Wikipedia article from scratch. I'd recommend trying to find at least three secondary sources that discuss Euresearch and paraphrase their content to make up the bulk of the article. Primary sources can be used for basic facts. If you do that, and let me know by pinging me here or on my User Talk Page, I'll take another look. Qcne (talk) 22:05, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks very much. 213.55.244.95 (talk) 22:08, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
What would help me is a good article of this type to look at. I reviewed a lot before I started writing and they were all similar to what I did. I looked at WP:GOOD but couldn't find any. Can you suggest a good article about an organisation that I could look at? Wordsmith.ch (talk) 06:50, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It's difficult to find one, you're right. The problem with these types of agencies is most of their work is done in the background without much secondary source attention. This means it's more difficult to write an article that passes WP:NORG.
My advice would be to not approach this WP:BACKWARD: do a wide search for secondary, independent, reliable sources that discuss the organisation. Then build the article from that. Qcne (talk) 09:51, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

20:08, 27 October 2023 review of submission by Saivamshi610

how to improve with reference sources i have provides author book links and interview links Saivamshi610 (talk) 20:08, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Interviews do not establish notability, because by definition they are the person speaking about themselves. We want to know what others unaffiliated with him say about him. 331dot (talk) 20:18, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia is not interested in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is only interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. ColinFine (talk) 22:26, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]


October 28

00:33, 28 October 2023 review of submission by 113.254.24.90

Please help to edit and approve, thank you so much 113.254.24.90 (talk) 00:33, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I assume you mean this  Courtesy link: Draft:Kanion Co? That draft has not been submitted, therefore it cannot be reviewed. And I might add, even if it were submitted, it would not be accepted as it currently stands, given that it is purely promotional. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:17, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

01:11, 28 October 2023 review of submission by The ely community

Why was my application denied. It’s important that I am remembered when I die 

The ely community (talk) 01:11, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@The ely community: we don't deal with "applications", we assess proposed article drafts that have been submitted for pre-publication review. Your draft has been deleted. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:14, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

07:04, 28 October 2023 review of submission by Sejatizen

We need publish this to introduce about our community Sejatizen (talk) 07:04, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Sejatizen: not going to happen, sorry. This draft has been rejected and is pending deletion. (And, it's not in English, but at this stage in the proceedings that's just by-the-by.) -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:12, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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