Talk:Matthew Perry

Personal Section

Why is there no personal section to this article? There is one for every other ex-'Friends' star. What's the deal? 92.9.232.39 (talk) 17:58, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

You're right, there was one a few days ago, now it's gone... what happened? Felipe-11 (talk) 04:30, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

The personal section was a mess, which is why it was removed. First, there were virtually no citations for any of the information, per the Wikipedia guideline WP:CITE. Second, it was full of trivial information that is irrelevant to an encyclopedia, like his fling with Julia Roberts or certain bands he likes; that is information better suited to fan websites than to Wikipedia (read WP:TRIVIA). The only sourced information was to his well-publicized battle with substances; since everything else in the 'personal' section was pointless, uncited information except for that, I moved it under the biography section. Please don't add trivial information, and if you can't find a mainstream newspaper or magazine talking about whatever it is you wish to include here, it should not go here because that means it is either 1) not true; or 2) unimportant (the policies and guidelines for this are WP:Verifiability and WP:Undue weight). -->David Shankbone 14:19, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Without a personal section of any sort this article feels dodgy, like it's been air-brushed, which is weird since in interviews Perry is pretty open.Alistair Stevenson (talk) 00:08, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

This was a long time ago, but the content remains for people like me to still read it. That being the case, I would like to respond. First, this article now has a short Personal section. However, if someone believes an article is lacking specific content, then that person should do the research and add the content, being sure that content has reliable, reputable third-party sources. Anyone can come to a Talk page and complain about missing content, but if someone takes the time to start a topic to complain, then I submit that such time and effort is better used providing a solution rather than a complaint. We are all responsible for the content in Wikipedia and any editor has the authority to add content to a page. Why not do it yourself rather than complain and expect someone else to do it? I think that sometimes editors don't realize that they have that authority. Don't be afraid to add content. Jump in! You can do it! MarydaleEd (talk) 03:11, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

Perry's finger

An editor added a piece of "trivia" about Perry missing part of a finger on his right hand. The editor initially added it citing to IMDb. I reverted because IMDb is not a reliable source for such things. The editor reinserted it with a "citation needed" template.

My view is that even if we could find a reliable source in support of the assertion, it's not sufficiently notable for inclusion. More simply put, who cares, and more important, why should Wikipedia report such things?

Comments?--Bbb23 (talk) 00:49, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

I think it could be mentioned, maybe in a private life section. Here's a better source: Mirror.co.uk

Mateussf (talk) 01:01, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

Why is this Matthew Perry the default?

I just spent 20 minutes trying to remember the name of the US officer who established relations with Japan, only to eventually realize I had it right and wikipedia was directing me to an actor of the same name. Commodore Perry is a much more notable figure in history, and has a longer and more informative article than the article. If nothing else, there should be a link from the actor's page to the Commodore's page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.154.208.205 (talk) 19:57, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

There's a disambiguation link at the top of the article.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:59, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

I agree that Matthew C. Perry is way more deserving of the default entry for the name than some actor. I'm not American, and I ask others to put themselves in the position of not having grown up with the 'Friends' series - say, consider whether you'd similarly prioritise an actor from a 1970s show. Let's stick with durable notability. Onanoff (talk) 18:18, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

Straight to Matthew Perry (Disambiguation)

I am not familiar with general wiki rules, But Matthew C Perry is probably just as famous and certainly more important than this one (Based on my own totally subjective views). I feel like if there are two equally well known people with the same name it should go straight Disambiguous page. Or as a last resort, stick a link to Matthew C Perry's page (not the disamb page) at the top to let people know that there was a super important historical guy with the same now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.28.188.56 (talk) 00:20, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

You bring up some good points. Per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC these are some of the (but not the only) criteria used to determine the primary topic:

Criteria	Matthew Perry	Matthew C. Perry
Incoming wikilinks	427	319
Article traffic (last 90 days)	299,938	39,226
Google hits	"Matthew Perry" actor = 502,000 "Matthew Perry" Friends = 2,290,000	"Matthew Perry" commodore = 1,310,000

I'd say the actor has the edge over the commodore, but not by a lot. Your suggestion for a hatnote to Matthew C. Perry is a good one. Hoof Hearted (talk) 18:48, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

His death

He was found in his hot tub on Saturday October 28th 2023 he had drowned. This was just 8 days after he had posted a picture on social media in the same hot tub. 24.228.89.162 (talk) 00:30, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

Are there better quality sources besides TMZ to confirm this? --NoonIcarus (talk) 00:33, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

The LA Times has reported on it since they also received the news from law enforcement. I think the LA Times article is more respectful, but I don't think that's enough to justify changing the source. 134.199.119.57 (talk) 01:13, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

TMZ has always been an excellent source for celebrity deaths and is usually the very first organization to report them. 71.199.43.182 (talk) 02:10, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

It is often the first to report because it is less committed than other outlets to the verification of facts before reporting. This is one of the reasons it is considered a low-quality source. General Ization ^Talk 02:16, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

Amen, my friend. TMZ is an excellent source for gossip and rumors, only. MarydaleEd (talk) 03:13, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

As an aside, would it be worth citing or including that post/picture? TwinTails (talk) 02:50, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

No. It would not. It adds nothing but sensationalism, which offends the five pillars of Wikipedia. However, I believe your suggestion came from a good place and I, for one, am grateful that you are thinking of how to improve articles. I encourage you to keep it up. MarydaleEd (talk) 03:15, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 October 2023

In the death section, it says that he was founded in his apartment. He lived in a house so I would change this as it is incorrect. 124.170.97.93 (talk) 01:39, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

 Done Rkieferbaum (talk) 02:02, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

Cropped photo

I had cropped the photo in the infobox to be taller and bigger generally, I think it looks better cropped but that got reverted. Thoughts? TheLoyalOrder (talk) 03:35, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

Clarifying - used {{CSS image crop}} to do the crop TheLoyalOrder (talk) 03:36, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

Matt Perry death article

There should be an article about Matt Perry's passing. Generally, if the traffic on that page is just about his death, there should be a whole article. Any thoughts? SussyBakaSussyImposter (talk) 03:46, 29 October 2023 (UTC)