User talk:Significa liberdade

Intensive Care (film)

I was in the middle of writing a lengthy response to your PROD nomination when Pppery moved the dab page and resolved the situation. Here is what I was in the middle of writing when the redlink I was referring to turned blue because Pppery had done exactly what I was suggesting should happen:

It's interesting to see that Significa liberdade has suggested WP:SIMILAR as justifying deleting this disambiguation page. I'd like to point out that WP:SIMILAR is about "When two articles share the same title, except that one is disambiguated and the other not". That is not the situation here. In this case, one article was named "Intensive Care (film)" and the other was named "Intensive Care (2022 film)". Both of those article titles were disambiguated, but one of them was disambiguated fully, while the other was not. This is more of what one would call a WP:INCOMPLETEDAB or WP:PARTIALDAB situation, not an instance where one title is disambiguated and the other is not.

WP:SIMILAR could probably use a bit of clarification about some of this, as it does not mention the possibility that it might be a good idea for the title of one or both of the articles in question to be changed – it just assumes the titles will stay what they currently are. The hatnote approach is only appropriate when one of the topics is considered a WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, which does not appear to be the case in this instance. Neither of the two topics seems dramatically more important than the other or dramatically more popular with readers.

Moreover, I'd like to point out the WP:NCFILMS naming convention, which says that the titles of articles about films should be fully disambiguated, not partially disambiguated. Partial disambiguation is a bit of a tricky topic, but I don't think it's necessary to get into that detail in this instance, since there is no indication that one of the two topics is a "primary" topic.

In the end, it would probably be best to redirect Intensive Care (film) to Intensive Care (disambiguation), but unfortunately that's a redlink. Until that page is created, it seems clear that Intensive Care (film) should be a disambiguation page. At the moment, instead of having such a disambiguation page, the Intensive care medicine article has an unwieldy hatnote at the top mentioning seven other topics that people might actually be looking for when they land on that page.

—⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 04:11, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for such an in-depth reply, BarrelProof! You're right that I have misunderstood WP:SIMILAR and will keep this in mind moving forward, as well as your other insights. Significa liberdade (talk) 04:19, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for your willingness to consider my response. I just edited WP:SIMILAR to try to clarify this issue. We can see how others react to that edit. Incidentally, congratulations on being selected as "editor of the week" a few months ago. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 04:26, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

Thanks on both accounts! I definitely didn't feel deserving of such an honour. Significa liberdade (talk) 04:35, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

Giridhara R Babu

Hello, Significa liberdade,

This draft was created over a year ago so it was not an appropriate subject for draftification. Moving an article to Draft space is only appropriate for newly created articles or for articles where an AFD was closed with a decision to draftify an article. Some editors do move articles to Draft space if they suspect paid editing but you didn't state that as a reason but because of a lack of sources. In cases like this, you might consider tagging an article for BLPPROD instead. Thank you. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:28, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

Hi, Liz! Thank you for reaching out about this. Although the article was created a year ago, it was only moved into the main space on 12 August 2023‎, which is in the 90-day period for draftification. At present, this issue isn't addressed in WP:DRAFTIFY nor the related discussion. Is there something else these nuances are discussed? Significa liberdade (talk) 01:39, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

@Hey man im josh and Rkieferbaum: Bringing you into this conversation since the topic of creation date vs. publication date was recently discussed in the NPP Discord. Significa liberdade (talk) 01:42, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

@Liz: My interpretation, and I believe the interpretation that a lot of people at NPP have, is that the 90 days starts from the moment the article hits main space. Similarly, many of us have believed that, when redirects are turned into articles, that the clock starts ticking from the time that the page is no longer a redirect. I believe that that reflects the intentions of the guideline at WP:DRAFTIFY, even if not explicitly clarified. Hey man im josh (talk) 01:57, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

Agreed. Although this isn't clearly stated as such in WP:DRAFTIFY, the reasons behind the 90-day rule of thumb refer to the time when an article exists in the mainspace. As an exaggerated example, one could create anything in their sandbox and move it to the mainspace after 91 days; it doesn't mean that the article couldn't be draftified on day 92. The case here isn't much different, since the article was in draft space for a long time until it was moved to the mainspace by its creator. The 90-day rule assumes that an article is stable and not frequently looked at beyond that time, making draftifying a slow form of deletion. This clearly doesn't apply to an article that wasn't in the mainspace or used to be a redirect. Rkieferbaum (talk) 02:48, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

Country Fever

Hello, Significa liberdade,

While the 90 day rule might be fuzzy on exactly when this period starts, it is clear that articles should only be draftified once and you moved this article to Draft space twice today. Perhaps you were just very busy when you were working on the project and didn't notice when you came across the article again. But please check the page history before draftifying an article to make sure it hasn't already been draftified before. Another editor reverted the page move. Thank you for all of the contributions you do here! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:37, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

Sorry, Liz. You deserve a cookie. Significa liberdade (talk) 02:06, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

Perhaps this would be a good opportunity to ping @MPGuy2824 and ask if it would be difficult to implement an additional check in their script. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:33, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

This check already exists in the script. If you start the script on the page right now, it shows the "previous draftification" warning. I would guess it would have shown the warning while the second draftification was in progress too. I've increased the font size of the warning messages and made the message less wishy-washy ("isn't appropriate" instead of "may not be appropriate"). Hope that's enough. I don't want to use a blink tag :-) -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:40, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

Yup, I was definitely not at my best with this one. I had a long day, including pushing for the October drive. My greatest apologies! Significa liberdade (talk) 13:37, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

Pao doce

Hello Significa liberdade, Thank you for reviewing my edits. I apologize for the sloppy work. It is unlike and unbecoming of me. I had just finished an article and started it half asleep without reviewing it in draft form then it just went down the rabbit hole and went along with it. I will do my best to make it work. Again, sorry and thank you for your time.Chedlund808 (talk) 07:03, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

No worries, @Chedlund808! It happens to the best of us. Take care, Significa liberdade (talk) 10:07, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

Shankar Kumar Sanyal

After deleting all the copyvio it's less than a stub, and even the first sentence is copyvio. Doug Weller talk 10:57, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

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Copyvio revdel template

Hi Significa liberdade. I'd like to first thank you for helping dealing with copyright violations on Wikipedia. While checking some of the articles you marked for revdel, I noticed that you only mark the revision in which the violation was added. To help patrolling admins, I'd ask that, when filling the template, you also mark the revision right before the one where the violation was removed from the page. Isabelle Belato ^🏳‍🌈 13:26, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

Thank you, @Isabelle Belato! I didn't realize this was needed, but it makes total sense. I'll make sure to add that in the future. Significa liberdade (talk) 13:41, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

Nomination of Al Ansari Financial Services for deletion

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Mykola Udianskyi

Hey, Significa liberdade! I saw that you 7d ago as a reviewer suggested improvements to the my own work Pavlo Tanasyuk (Ukraine). Yesterday I've got huge discussion with two patrollers around possible WP:G4 issues on Mykola Udianskyi (Ukraine). They agreed with me that G4 not relevant to this case and restored it. But the page is still not reviewed by anyone. Can I ask you take a look as you review my previous work recently? I fixed infobox age bug, fixed orphan tag, removed irrelevant link, added See also, but no one coming help me. Antonio Vinzaretti (talk) 13:03, 21 October 2023 (UTC)

October 2023

Hi dear user Significa liberdade I want to inform you that you are doing some editing in the page on Nasir Zaman I have read the notability guideline and this page meets the notability guidelines you are adding the tag again and again. it's not worth it You do not need to do any type of editing in that page If you do this, you can be blocked by any administrator of Wikipedia. I will keep trying to correct the articles in which you have tampered till now. see that you have tampered with many pages. To remove all references to an article is to strip it naked. Don't you worry at all, I have removed your editing I have returned the tampered, Many editor waiting to see this article. Zimidar (talk) 04:06, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

Hi, Zimidar! The citations currently provided on the Nasir Zaman article fall under the category of ref-bombing. In this case, the vast majority of citations on the page do not provide significant coverage for the subject. That is, the sources "briefly namecheck the fact that the subject exists, but are not actually about the subject to any non-trivial degree". Can you find sources that provide significant coverage for Zaman or explain to me how any of the sources on the page currently meet the criteria? If you cannot do this, the article should be sent to Articles for Deletion. Significa liberdade (talk) 04:36, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

Incomplete DYK nomination

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Paraphrase tag on Dinmukhamet Idrisov

Hi @Significa liberdade: I came across your paraphrase tag on Dinmukhamet Idrisov and was wondering if you could identify the source that concerned you? Thanks microbiologyMarcus ^{(petri dish)} 19:11, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

Hi, MicrobiologyMarcus! I've added the original source to the tag now. In general, it's from the "Alumni stories" page from Narxoz University. I wasn't quite sure with the paraphrasing on this one as it includes a lot of titles, degrees, etc. But some of it felt a bit close for me. Significa liberdade (talk) 20:40, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

Thanks! microbiologyMarcus ^{(petri dish)} 20:21, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

Talk:Elvis Presley single § Page name: Elvis Presley single vs Elvis Presley stamp.

Hi @Significa liberdade: thanks for your contributions to Elvis Presley single. I assume you came across the page while reviewing it for NPP. I have reverted your name change, per WP:RMUM, because I believe that it was the common name in all the secondary sources, but I am soliciting your comment on the discussion. Best, microbiologyMarcus ^{(petri dish)} 18:49, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

Women in Red - November 2023

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About Anoe and Talk:Aneo - "Something weird happened"

@Significa liberdade, BoyTheKingCanDance, FatCat96, DoubleGrazing, and OliviaWolfie: Hi all. Somehow the move of Anoe to Draft:Aneo got borked up, possibly due to "replication lag" (And also: this is just between us, ok? I admit I don't actually understand what "replication lag" means) Shirt58 (talk) 🦘 10:24, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the ping @Shirt58. Just to explain, I draftified Draft:Aneo while doing NPP, because the sources fell far short of GNG, but I didn't want to request speedy as I thought the author might welcome an opportunity to work on it further. The move seemed to go through okay, at least I didn't see anything unusual... although saying that, I'm not actually sure what a bork looks like (is it a fish or fowl?). My draftifications shouldn't leave a redir behind, so how the current Aneo got created, I don't know, but whatever "replication lag" is, it sounds like a plausible culprit. (Heckuva long lag, mind, as the time stamps are 2 min apart!) -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 11:27, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

DoubleGrazing and Shirt58 -- it was definitely an interesting moment for me. I was just adding a short description via Shortdesc helper, and when the page refreshed, I was the creator! It literally should have only taken seconds. Is this the bork to blame? Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 11:30, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

@DoubleGrazing: The plan is indeed to continue working on it. This is the first article I've worked on from partly scratch (partly, because it was translated from Norwegian, so therefore not written entirely from scratch), and I made the dumb assumption that the standards were enforced more or less universally across the wikis, and that the sources would be fine here if they were fine elsewhere.

I'm planning to copy over the updates back to nowiki when it's good here as well. The more I read up on stuff, the more I'm seeing the significant problems in the source wiki. I mostly just need to figure out how to write stuff before I can make more proper progress on it. The overwhelming majority of my edits are counter-vandalism edits, which are trivial in comparison to writing content.

Also, while I'm already writing stuff somewhere, the orphan status (that briefly appeared before it was drafted instead) is fairly easily resolvable. The asset shift means that, among other power plants, the ownership in Fosen Vind is out of date (www.fosenvind.no/om-fosen-vind/; the ownership list is identical, but with Aneo instead of TrønderEnergi). This is also why I started with Aneo; doesn't really make sense to update the out-of-date stuff unless there's an article already covering it, particularly when there isn't much of a rush to get stuff updated. -- OliviaWolfie (She/her) (talk) 16:48, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

@OliviaWolfie: thanks, it sounds like draftifying (rather than deleting) was the right move, then, which is good to know.

If it's any consolation (probably not!), I used to come across a similar problem all the time, when translating articles from the Finnish or Swedish Wikipedias. The English-language one has stricter notability and referencing requirements than any of the others (that I'm aware of at least), and often the referencing in the original simply wasn't good enough. So much so that now, the first thing I do is check if the sources are good enough to establish notability here, and if they aren't, whether I can find better ones. If not, I simply drop it and move on to something else. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 17:17, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

Removal of history section from Avant (train)

Hi Significa liberdade! I saw you removed the history section from the Avant (train) article as copied from the page: https://cloudflare-ipfs.com/ipfs/QmXoypizjW3WknFiJnKLwHCnL72vedxjQkDDP1mXWo6uco/wiki/AVE.html implying that this crates a copyright violation issue. Then Nthep hided all relative history of this article regarding this section. I think there is a misunderstanding here and I personally do not see any copyright problem with this section. The page you are referring to is a copy of an old version of the AVE Wikipedia article from 11/3/2016. This article has been changed since then with many sections of it to be moved to other more specific Wikipedia articles. The Avant (train) is one of those articles, a new Wikipedia page that now describes in detail what was previously part of the AVE article. The Avant service is in fact a different high-speed rail service from the AVE service and therefore the part of the history section that is related to the Avant service has to be moved to the dedicated Avant article in a new history section. There is no copyright violation since the source of this information is Wikipedia itself along with the corresponding citations. Clicklander (talk) 10:57, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

versions restored. Nthep (talk) 13:32, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

Re-Reviews - October Backlog Drive

Hi Significa liberdade, just a heads up - I didn't review the article Kanti Shah (swimmer) I reviewed the Redirect Khamlillal Shah which points to that older article (redirect re-reviews won't count towards your total at the end of the drive). Best wishes Josey Wales ^Parley 11:30, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

Joseywales1961 -- thank you for noticing this! I'll update the re-review. :) Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 12:51, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

November Articles for creation backlog drive

Hello Significa liberdade:

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