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This editor has done nothing but edit war on this article since the 12th of September. They made a single comment on the discussion that I started and then abandoned it. Invites to comment further have been ignored. [[User:M.Bitton|M.Bitton]] ([[User talk:M.Bitton|talk]]) 22:52, 3 November 2023 (UTC) |
This editor has done nothing but edit war on this article since the 12th of September. They made a single comment on the discussion that I started and then abandoned it. Invites to comment further have been ignored. [[User:M.Bitton|M.Bitton]] ([[User talk:M.Bitton|talk]]) 22:52, 3 November 2023 (UTC) |
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Edit warring is a behavior, typically exemplified by the use of repeated edits to "win" a content dispute. It is different from a bold, revert, discuss (BRD) cycle. Reverting vandalism and banned users is not edit warring; at the same time, content disputes, even egregious point of view edits and other good-faith changes do not constitute vandalism. Administrators often must make a judgment call to identify edit warring when cooling disputes. Administrators currently use several measures to determine if a user is edit warring.
An editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Violations of this rule normally attract blocks of at least 24 hours. Any appearance of gaming the system by reverting a fourth time just outside the 24-hour slot is likely to be treated as a 3RR violation. See here for exemptions.
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User:DoItForDan reported by User:Mhhossein (Result: Partially blocked indefinitely)
Page: Prosecution of Daniel Duggan (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: DoItForDan (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to: [1]
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- DoItForDan's first round of mass changes identified as vandalism and reverted by ClueBot NG.
- DoItForDan's first revert followed by these maintenance changes and restoring the long standing version by me.
- DoItForDan's second revert followed by my revert.
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [2]
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [3]
Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page: [diff]
Comments:
The reported user made zero attempt to discuss their mass changes on the talk page and instead he is trying to keep his preferred version by edit warring. The user's contribution includes only edits to Prosecution of Daniel Duggan, so I would call it a WP:NOTHERE case. Among other content issues, his edit inserts WP:MOS issues to the page. --Mhhossein talk 18:45, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
- Partially blocked – for a period of indefinitely. Given the nature of the WP:SPA and lack of talk page usage I don't think a timed block will prevent anything (stressing that indefinite does not mean infinite), but a partial block will allow them to discuss the issues on the talk page if they choose to do so. Aoidh (talk) 03:37, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
User:Freescott reported by User:Yoshi24517 (Result: Blocked 31 hours)
Page: Milk chocolate (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Freescott (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to:
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- 20:01, 1 November 2023 (UTC) "Undid revision 1183025261 by Czello (talk), there is nothing about texture forming property of its overall popularity"
- 19:59, 1 November 2023 (UTC) "Undid revision 1183024550 by Yoshi24517 (talk), no leadcite issue. I have removed the whole section which does not contain a source to substantiate the claim. Thanks anyhow"
- 19:55, 1 November 2023 (UTC) "Read all the paragraphs and they say nothing to support your claim"
- 10:30, 1 November 2023 (UTC) "no source"
Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:
- 20:00, 1 November 2023 (UTC) "Edit warring (UV 0.1.5)"
Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
Comments:
4 reverts on Milk chocolate, despite other editors disagreeing. Yoshi24517 (Chat) (Online) 20:04, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
- Blocked – for a period of 31 hours Aoidh (talk) 20:06, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
User:Dlv426 reported by User:HistoryofIran (Result: Blocked 48 hours)
Page: Rhodogune of Parthia (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Dlv426 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Diffs of the user's reverts:
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [8]
Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page: [9]
Comments:
User keeps adding info not supported by a source, despite being told multiple times not to. It's been over 24 hours, but still in the same period. There seems to be WP:COMPETENCE and/or WP:IDIDNTHEARTHAT issues. User has been told several times to refrain from edit warring and discuss it through in the talk page [10] [11] [12] [13] [14]. As another user perfectly put it, Dlv426 "seem to be resistant to reviewing the rules to which the community has agreed to.". --HistoryofIran (talk) 00:04, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
- Blocked – for a period of 48 hours. Bbb23 (talk) 01:04, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
User:HolonZeias reported by User:M.Bitton (Result: Blocked 72 hours)
Page: List of active separatist movements in Europe (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: HolonZeias (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to:
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- 14:31, 2 November 2023 (UTC) "Undid revision 1183154361 by M.Bitton (talk): Undoing this one just to put attention on a literal menace receiving here. Starting to smell some kind of agenda here."
- 14:26, 2 November 2023 (UTC) "Undid revision 1183153296 by M.Bitton (talk): Not POV; current Pieds-Noirs admit they don't even have an agreed upon place in Europe to settle down, their traditional homeland being on the African continent. See talk page: person wildly ignores crucial elements in favour of own POV and even links to articles contradicting them."
- 14:18, 2 November 2023 (UTC) "Undid revision 1183152773 by M.Bitton (talk): Given that 3R admitted having no idea what that is and given their erroneous line of thought that opinion, along with your selective bias, can be clearly discarded. Please refrain from keeping erroneous information on Wikipedia, thank you!"
- Consecutive edits made from 14:07, 2 November 2023 (UTC) to 14:13, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
- 14:07, 2 November 2023 (UTC) "Undid revision 1183099637 by Comores 123 (talk)"
- 14:13, 2 November 2023 (UTC) "/* Poland */: Removed weird fringe movements; according to the states sources these are either "what if" journalistic articles talking to a couple of locals, or other projects made by single individuals without any notoriety."
Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:
- 14:19, 2 November 2023 (UTC) "Warning: Edit warring on List of active separatist movements in Europe."
Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
Comments:
After a long discussion, they asked for a third opinion, but since it didn't go their way, they decided to impose their POV through an edit war because, according to them, I have a history of not knowing how to read sources appropriately
(see diff) and the 3O has an erroneous line of thought
(highlighted in their edit summary). M.Bitton (talk) 14:34, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
- 3O admitted not knowing about the subject and doing somewhat erroneous lines of thought. Person here in question displayed several instances of passive-agressive behaviour in the concerned talk page, wildly ignoring arguments during the discussion and several times linking to sources contradicting their own points. Person in question has already had edit wars with other people concerning the subject of North African Pieds-Noirs people based in France. Sources stated don't support person in question either.
- HolonZeias (talk) 14:39, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
- We get it, anyone who disagrees with you has to be plain stupid. M.Bitton (talk) 14:42, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
- You did not read the sources you were clinging to and were literally contradicting your points of view, as stated on the talk page. Several people have tried going against your nonsense, to the point you did not even remove the New Caledonia and other movements from the Europe list as it would otherwise contradict your whole line of thought. Again, for someone being very "Wikipedian self-appointed mod" you've been menacing and directily insulting on several occasions. HolonZeias (talk) 14:49, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
- Like I said, I get it: anyone who disagrees with you has to be plain stupid. M.Bitton (talk) 14:50, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
- Nice one. On another note, please also reread (I know, difficult for someone who reads the word Spain in articles not including said nation) the edits on the Polish movements, as I have no idea what those are doing in your complaint. HolonZeias (talk) 14:52, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
- Nice try. They are part of the 14:07, 2 November 2023 (UTC) "Undid revision 1183099637 by Comores 123 (talk)" (your first revert of the day and your nth on the article). M.Bitton (talk) 14:55, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
- You did not read the sources you were clinging to and were literally contradicting your points of view, as stated on the talk page. Several people have tried going against your nonsense, to the point you did not even remove the New Caledonia and other movements from the Europe list as it would otherwise contradict your whole line of thought. Again, for someone being very "Wikipedian self-appointed mod" you've been menacing and directily insulting on several occasions. HolonZeias (talk) 14:49, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
- We get it, anyone who disagrees with you has to be plain stupid. M.Bitton (talk) 14:42, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
- Blocked – for a period of 72 hours. Bbb23 (talk) 15:16, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
User:Lukeest reported by User:331dot (Result: Blocked indefinitely)
Page: Audi Performance and Racing (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Lukeest (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to:
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- 15:27, 2 November 2023 (UTC) "Undid destructive revision 1183160376 by 331dot (talk)"
- 14:55, 2 November 2023 (UTC) "Undid revision 1183156278 by 331dot (talk)"
- 14:36, 2 November 2023 (UTC) "Updated and expanded APR's Wikipedia page. Due to Stephen Hooks' successful entrepreneurship, APR lives on and thrives. While Stephen has moved on to start a new company Sonic Tools as he disrupts the tool truck business, APR is still a household name in the automotive and racing industries. Audi Performance & Racing is one of the largest auto technology companies in the United States. The facility is state of the art, the people are professionals, and the work is renowned."
Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:
- 15:10, 2 November 2023 (UTC) "re"
- 15:23, 2 November 2023 (UTC) "/* Managing a conflict of interest */ Reply"
Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
Comments:
Edit warring to add unsourced and promotional text; their hostility towards my comments suggests to me they have little interest in discussion or in ceasing their efforts. 331dot (talk) 15:29, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
Given that these are their only edits, I wouldn't be surprised if this was a sock. 331dot (talk) 15:30, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
Has further edit warred with this series, here. and this series. 331dot (talk) 20:55, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
- Blocked – for a period of indefinitely. Their edit history is persistent promotional edit warring. Aoidh (talk) 21:33, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
User:XY League reported by User:Cerebral726 (Result: Blocked 31 hours)
Page: 2023 Emilia Romagna Grand Prix (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: XY League (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to:
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- 19:10, 2 November 2023 (UTC) "Undid revision 1183186869 by Cerebral726 (talk)"
- 18:23, 2 November 2023 (UTC) "Undid revision 1183179612 by Cerebral726 (talk)"
Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:
- 17:41, 2 November 2023 (UTC) "/* October 2023 */ advise"
- 19:12, 2 November 2023 (UTC) "Notice: Edit warring stronger wording (RW 16.1)"
Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
- 19:17, 2 November 2023 (UTC) "/* Edit warring */ new section"
Comments:
Ignoring edit war warnings, has now requested page protection to "protect [their] edits". Has shown this behavior before here. Has continued this behavior after this report again: [15]. Cerebral726 (talk) 19:29, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
- Blocked – for a period of 31 hours Jauerbackdude?/dude. 23:37, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
User:Jon698 reported by User:Freechild (Result: Page protected)
Page: Preston Love Jr. (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Jon698 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to: [16]
Diffs of the user's reverts:
Comments:
Jon698 has broken the 3RR rule, and has not acted in good faith. I have met their requests as shared within the edit bar and they continue to revert my edits without further explanation. According to their User page they are very politically oriented, and I suspect their edits reflect a political bias. Admin intervention is requested to stop continued edit warring. Freechild (talk) 23:32, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
- 1. I do not see how me being more liberal would make me desire to ruin the page of a Democratic candidate.
2. You have not altered your edits from the previous months.
3. Your edits have created three entirely unsourced paragraphs.
4. You continue to insist on the inclusion of an award section that is entirely unnotable.
5. Sentences like "Preston Love, Jr.'s career has spanned corporate technology, government, politics and social entrepreneurship." and the edits contain far too much editorial language. Jon698 (talk) 23:55, 2 November 2023 (UTC)- Also according to the revision history you had no problem with the page between April 15 and September 27. Yet you decided to add the information that was rejected that last time we did this. Jon698 (talk) 00:50, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
- Looking beyond the numerous unsourced material in the article, you also added in an unsourced birth date within a sourced section. Jon698 (talk) 01:02, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
- Also according to the revision history you had no problem with the page between April 15 and September 27. Yet you decided to add the information that was rejected that last time we did this. Jon698 (talk) 00:50, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
- Page protected There is no WP:3RR violation, as the above diffs go back to September. Both of you, however, are edit warring. This edit is not reverting vandalism (WP:NOTVAND), and it's not helpful to have an edit summary that simply says
stop edit war
while edit warring yourself. Discuss this on the talk page and get a consensus for changes before implementing them. Also @Freechild: per WP:DOB please do not insert an unreferenced DOB on a BLP article. This back-and-forth has been going on since April. If edit warring continues after theblockprotection has expired (especially if no consensus has been reached on the article's talk page) then one or both editors will likely be blocked for edit warring. - Aoidh (talk) 01:21, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
- @Aoidh: I think you mean "after the protection has expired".--Bbb23 (talk) 12:56, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
- @Bbb23: I did indeed, thank you. - Aoidh (talk) 16:20, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
Aoidh, if you refer to the talk page [22] you will see that I initiated a genuinely determined conversation with the other party to which they did not respond in kind, instead persistent in their steadfast denial of the validity of my edits. I will attempt to initiate again, but I need to know what steps to take if and when that doesn't work. Freechild (talk) 21:04, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
- I saw the talk page when the report was made, and this is not
a genuinely determined conversation
, it's asking them to discuss in lieu of discussing anything yourself, while also framing it as an issue of their edit warring, when you both are edit warring. That comment is neither an explanation for the reasons for your edits nor it is an attempt to obtain consensus of any kind. Regarding this comment, I would suggest you read WP:V, particularly the lede (i.e., first three paragraphs) and WP:ONUS (The responsibility for achieving consensus for inclusion is on those seeking to include disputed content
). You should ideally be explaining on the talk page the reason why the changes you made should be implemented in the article and trying to obtain a consensus for those changes. - Aoidh (talk) 21:38, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
User:Whysoanonymous reported by User:Skyerise (Result: Blocked one week)
Page: B. B. Lal (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Whysoanonymous (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to: [23]
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- [24]
- [25]
- [26]
- [27]
- [28]
- [29] - new revert after this report was made
- [30] - partial revert: removing a citation present in the first 5 reverts
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [31]
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [32]
Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page: [33]
Comments:
WP:NOTHERE, WP:TENDENTIOUS, consuming a lot of valuable time from credible editors. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 11:31, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
- Blocked – for a period of one week. Bbb23 (talk) 13:06, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
User:Ruhrob reported by User:Czello (Result: Indefinitely blocked)
Page: Hakeem Jeffries (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Ruhrob (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to:
Diffs of the user's reverts:
Outside of 24 hour period
Within the past 24 hours
- 16:26, 3 November 2023 (UTC) "The citation isn't related to this statement. And the language that is used here is very subjective, that goes against tge principles of neutral point of view"
- 16:20, 3 November 2023 (UTC) "Once again, there is no citation. Citation for the next sentence isn't related to this statement"
- 12:23, 3 November 2023 (UTC) "No citation. The information is questionable"
Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:
- 12:29, 3 November 2023 (UTC) "Warning: Three-revert rule on The Ingraham Angle."
Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
- 12:36, 3 November 2023 (UTC) "/* Bias */ Reply"
Comments:
3RR hasn't been violated in this instance, but it comes after an edit warring notice from another article and a refusal to continue discussing on the talk page. In this instance they are deleting information that is clearly sourced while falsely claiming the source doesn't support the content. — Czello (music) 16:32, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
- They are also edit warring on The Ingraham Angle and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. 3RR hasn't been violated on any page, but I was split between blocking them now and giving them one last chance and blocking on the next revert of whatever page. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:42, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
- Judging by their edits they appear to be an ideology warrior who's targeting left-leaning subjects (or softening descriptions of "right wing" and "conservative" in right-leaning articles). — Czello (music) 16:46, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
- Their user page is not encouraging either. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:48, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
- Judging by their edits they appear to be an ideology warrior who's targeting left-leaning subjects (or softening descriptions of "right wing" and "conservative" in right-leaning articles). — Czello (music) 16:46, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
- Indefinitely blocked.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:51, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
User:Uniru288 reported by User:HapHaxion (Result: )
Page: Renewal Front (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Uniru288 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to: [35]
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- 16:21, 3 November 2023 (UTC) "More sources"
- 15:51, 3 November 2023 (UTC) ""
- 15:00, 3 November 2023 (UTC) "I undo editing of the blocked user 'Superpowersjam'"
- 01:58, 3 November 2023 (UTC) "Undid revision 1182705120 by Superpowersjam (talk)"
Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:
- 15:38, 3 November 2023 (UTC) "/* Re: Renewal Front */ new section"
- 15:41, 3 November 2023 (UTC) "Warning: Three-revert rule on Renewal Front."
- 17:48, 3 November 2023 (UTC) "Caution: Adding original research on Renewal Front."
Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
Comments:
Two prior blocks for edit warring. Continued to revert sources being added to support the political party being labeled as centre-right, and when this did not work, added additional sources claiming centre-left which failed verification (WP:OR) HapHaxion (talk / contribs) 17:56, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
- The two blocks HapHaxion mentioned were both for violations at Javier Milei, an extremely sensitive article where Uniru288 has just done four aggressive, unfair reverts in about the last two hours. City of Silver 21:15, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
User:JackyTheChemosh reported by User:M.Bitton (Result: )
Page: List of active separatist movements in Europe (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: JackyTheChemosh (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to:
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- 22:48, 3 November 2023 (UTC) "Undid revision 1183375953 by M.Bitton (talk) Everything was already said either in edit comments or the discussion but i will give my exact reasoning here. 1. Most of the sources are dead links and are therefore worthless or are primary sources 2. The links that aren't dead either talk about setting up a state in Africa or in Europe with no other specification besides "in France" 3. If they claim the former then it doesn't belong becau..."
- 22:32, 3 November 2023 (UTC) "Undid revision 1183374600 by M.Bitton (talk) Im not insulting them im stating what they themselves said. No claims to land = no place in the article."
- 22:22, 3 November 2023 (UTC) "Undid revision 1183326392 by M.Bitton (talk) The 3rd party admitted to not knowing anything and even if we go by their opinion this still would not be appropriate for this article for the same reason that the Russian Monarchist micronation isn't in the Africa article, it has no claims to any land"
- 23:50, 1 November 2023 (UTC) "/* France */ region in question is located entirely in Africa. not appropriate for this article"
Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:
Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
Comments:
This editor has done nothing but edit war on this article since the 12th of September. They made a single comment on the discussion that I started and then abandoned it. Invites to comment further have been ignored. M.Bitton (talk) 22:52, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
- My reasoning and critiques were ignored as was the critiques of others. (Hopefully this comment is signed after this cuz i have how to do it on mobile)