User talk:Jab1998

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October 2021

Please do not use styles that are nonstandard, unusual, inappropriate or difficult to understand in articles, as you did in Battle of Mogadishu (1993). There is a Manual of Style, and edits should not deliberately go against it without special reason. Thank you. Loafiewa (talk) 06:21, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to use disruptive, inappropriate or hard-to-read formatting, as you did at Battle of Mogadishu (1993), you may be blocked from editing. There is a Wikipedia Manual of Style, and edits should not deliberately go against it without special reason. Loafiewa (talk) 14:47, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you make disruptive edits to Wikipedia contrary to the Manual of Style, as you did at Battle of Mogadishu (1993). Loafiewa (talk) 14:59, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 24 hours for persistently making disruptive edits. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  Daniel Case (talk) 18:25, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

Bias

Judging by your contributions, you clearly have a hypernationalistic, inaccurate viewpoint on certain conflicts. Please disclose your bias. It it better to get consensus on outcomes than just to use Call of Duty ratios.

Also for reference, the 2011 NATO-Pakistan conflict has an unknown number of casualties for NATO, not "zero casualties". Please read the article first.

FIREYSUNSET (talk) 00:34, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

How am I being nationalistic? How did Pakistan win this? The US military destroyed the Pakistani military in the last engagement and the conflict then ended after political talks between the two sides. Pakistan having their forces blown up isn’t a “win” Jab1998 (talk) 14:10, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

Engagements are defined as having outcomes desired prior to the engagement fulfilled. This was not the case, as the US was legally required to evacuate Shamsi Airfield and had supply routes cut off for weeks. Destroying the military in an engagement is not the definition of victory since the political outcomes were not to the US favor.

If you want to call this a victory, you may as well consider the Soviet War in Afghanistan a Soviet victory, considering the Soviet army destroyed the militants each time there was a pitched battle (seeing your bias in the US/Afghan-related articles as well). Though I doubt that you would give the Soviet Union any credit for anything due to your own biases. There were severe tactical defeats for the US side (and the other side) in the War of 1812 and Korean War, yet the outcome was more or less a strategic tie as both sides accomplished a little bit of their desired goals, and some not.

Your bias has become so strong that you are unwilling to consider the 1993 Mogadishu Battle (Black Hawk Down) a loss or a mixed outcome, considering that Mohamed Farrah Aidid (the most important target) was not captured. Calling it a US pyrrhic victory doesn't even make sense, considering everyone agrees that the SNA took way more casualties. They just stopped certain US objectives. The Consensus for this page (see the talk page) was generally either not saying the outcome, or calling it a Pakistani victory, as they denied the US supply routes. If you continue to engage in edit warring and inserting biased nationalistic beliefs on Wikipedia, I will warn you to the administration for vandalism and NOT respecting the consensus on this site.

FIREYSUNSET (talk) 20:21, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

Inaccuracy

Hello, I would like to point out your consistent changing of the status of the "Pakistan-United States Skirmishes" article. Neutral assessments align with the belief that the Pakistani Government was the victor longterm with the United States forced evacuation of Shamsi Airfield fulfilling this narrative. The United States had to PUBLICLY apologize on the matter for their supply routes to be secured and acknowledge Pakistani sovereignty. That is a clear moral and political victory for Pakistan. Hence, I shall change the status. "Skirmishes Ended; Pakistani Political Victory". Thank you. Izaan Iqbal (talk) 14:24, 12 November 2023 (UTC)