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It's not entirely clear what to merge in from the [[Therianthropy]] article, which has a mixture of issues that include [[WP:OR]] of multiple types, and a bunch of [[MOS:WAF]] problems, with Wikipedia trying to write about fantasy and fan-fiction ideas as if they were reality (I just deleted an entire section of that stuff, but there's more). <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"> — [[User:SMcCandlish|'''SMcCandlish''']] [[User talk:SMcCandlish|☏]] [[Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish|¢]] 😼 </span> 22:48, 22 November 2023 (UTC) |
It's not entirely clear what to merge in from the [[Therianthropy]] article, which has a mixture of issues that include [[WP:OR]] of multiple types, and a bunch of [[MOS:WAF]] problems, with Wikipedia trying to write about fantasy and fan-fiction ideas as if they were reality (I just deleted an entire section of that stuff, but there's more). <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"> — [[User:SMcCandlish|'''SMcCandlish''']] [[User talk:SMcCandlish|☏]] [[Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish|¢]] 😼 </span> 22:48, 22 November 2023 (UTC) |
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:I just cleaned up most of the citations in it. The article ([[Therianthropy]]) is a confused mish-mash of mythology from various cultures, neo-pagan religiosity, psychological/pyschiatric material, [[otherkin]] fantasy subculture stuff, furry/plushy cosplay subculture, and other subjects. A bunch of the sources are probably not really usable, being material generated from within these subcultures (e.g. the survey from https://invisibleotherkin.neocities.org, a website by someone who claims to identify as "a group of five non-humans who are currently existing simultaneously in a single human body", and that's just one of them. <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"> — [[User:SMcCandlish|'''SMcCandlish''']] [[User talk:SMcCandlish|☏]] [[Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish|¢]] 😼 </span> 00:37, 23 November 2023 (UTC) |
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Who did this
Who the h removed nearly all the contents? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.253.112.1 (talk) 17:32, 18 May 2016 (UTC)
Poor writing
The last item in the Mythology section and several items in Folklore must have been provided by contributors without much knowledge of English. They're incomprehensible like geraldine quimson. Is someone around who knows the myths and tales and can clean these up? Cognita (talk) 05:46, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
Odo and T1000
Odo (and the changelings) from Star Trek: Deep Space Nine and the T1000 from Terminator 2 are clearly missing! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.177.175.119 (talk) 23:01, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
add in pop culture section
some ideas: Transformers (the robots) Ditto Zoroark Etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SmartyPantsKid (talk • contribs) 08:11, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
Themes in shapeshifting
There seems to be a lot of OR in this section, or maybe it just needs more citations. It is beyond my ken, so I just tagged the section. Whikie (talk) 17:05, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
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Reorganizing
The Mythology section is disorganized. They should be listed by continent. Maybe add an additional header. I don't want to touch anything in fear of breaking it. 2A00:EE2:907:FF00:49EC:7167:80DD:D4A9 (talk) 23:53, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
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Merge Shapeshifting and Therianthropy
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I think the article on Therianthropy should be merged into Shapeshifting. Both articles say they describe the same thing under different names. Discuss. Quarl (talk) 22:26, 15 October 2022 (UTC)
- Support.--Redtigerxyz Talk 16:58, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
- Support. Deiadameian (talk) 22:15, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
- Support★Trekker (talk) 17:12, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose, therianthropy is something that only humans do, and it only involves changing into the shape of an animal, whereas shapeshifting is often done by non-human entities, and involves changing into things besides animals (indeed, in the case of non-human shapeshifters, oftentimes the shapeshifter is changing into a human, which is definitely not therianthropy). Both subjects are plenty notable enough in their own right, and merging the whole therianthropy article into a section in the shapeshifting article could be clunky, since there's so much info about therianthropy. They're better off as separate articles. Joe (talk) 07:50, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
- Support, given the vast majority of the Shapeshifting page involves transformations of humans, and hence there is heavy overlap. Readers of the the therianthropy are missing much of relevance on the shapeshifting page. Klbrain (talk) 18:05, 30 July 2023 (UTC)
Followup work
It's not entirely clear what to merge in from the Therianthropy article, which has a mixture of issues that include WP:OR of multiple types, and a bunch of MOS:WAF problems, with Wikipedia trying to write about fantasy and fan-fiction ideas as if they were reality (I just deleted an entire section of that stuff, but there's more). — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 22:48, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
- I just cleaned up most of the citations in it. The article (Therianthropy) is a confused mish-mash of mythology from various cultures, neo-pagan religiosity, psychological/pyschiatric material, otherkin fantasy subculture stuff, furry/plushy cosplay subculture, and other subjects. A bunch of the sources are probably not really usable, being material generated from within these subcultures (e.g. the survey from https://invisibleotherkin.neocities.org, a website by someone who claims to identify as "a group of five non-humans who are currently existing simultaneously in a single human body", and that's just one of them. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 00:37, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
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