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Bad WP:POVFORK of Koreans in China.

The topic of this article (ethnic Koreans with Chinese nationality) has been the primary topic of the article Koreans in China since 2006 (initial version, October 2023 version). In October, however, User:Strategicasian inexplicably changed the introduction of the latter article to only "non-Chinese nationalities such as South Korean and North Korean people", the complete opposite of the article's previous main focus, and created this new article.

This new article, despite being titled "Chaoxianzu", the Korean ethnicity in China, is almost entirely an original research assay on political issues surrounding the identity of Chaoxianzu and their emigration to South Korea. It cites 25 sources currently – I've checked all accessible ones, and the vast majority of them are fake citations that do not support the preceding text. (It is also immediately obvious, from the way citations are added here, that they are fake.) The only parts that are actually supported, such as the population in South Korea, are also discussed in the main "Koreans in China" article and it makes little sense to duplicate them there.

In the future, the topic of Koreans in China could still benefit from a split between articles on Korean Chinese citizens (Chaoxianzu) and recent South Korean arrivals in China. However it is now being split in the worst possible way: we are getting a extremely low-quality new article on Chaoxianzu, and another article that claims to be about non-Chinese citizens, but still mainly deals with the chaoxianzu. Splitting content about South Koreans from the main article would be a much better solution. Esiymbro (talk) 22:48, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Ethnic groups and China. Esiymbro (talk) 22:48, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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 Bad [[WP:POVFORK]] of [[Koreans in China]].
-The topic of this article (ethnic Koreans with Chinese nationality) has been the primary topic of the article [[Koreans in China]] since 2006 ([https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Koreans_in_China&oldid=44491833 initial version], [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Koreans_in_China&oldid=1178811753 October 2023 version]). In October, however, [[User:Strategicasian]] inexplicably changed the introduction of the latter article to "non-Chinese nationalities such as South Korean and North Korean people", the complete opposite of the article's previous main focus, and created this new article.
+The topic of this article (ethnic Koreans with Chinese nationality) has been the primary topic of the article [[Koreans in China]] since 2006 ([https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Koreans_in_China&oldid=44491833 initial version], [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Koreans_in_China&oldid=1178811753 October 2023 version]). In October, however, [[User:Strategicasian]] inexplicably changed the introduction of the latter article to only "non-Chinese nationalities such as South Korean and North Korean people", the complete opposite of the article's previous main focus, and created this new article.
-This new article, despite being titled "Chaoxianzu", the Korean ethnicity in China, is almost entirely an [[WP:OR|original research]] assay on political issues surrounding the identity of Chaoxianzu and their emigration to South Korea. It cites 25 sources currently – I've checked all accessible ones, and the vast majority of them are fake citations that do not support the preceding text. (It is also immediately obvious, from the way citations are added here, that they are fake.) The only parts that are actually supported, such as the population in South Korea, are also discussed in the main "Koreans in China" article and it makes little sense to duplicate them there. [[User:Esiymbro|Esiymbro]] ([[User talk:Esiymbro|talk]]) 22:48, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
+This new article, despite being titled "Chaoxianzu", the Korean ethnicity in China, is almost entirely an [[WP:OR|original research]] assay on political issues surrounding the identity of Chaoxianzu and their emigration to South Korea. It cites 25 sources currently – I've checked all accessible ones, and the vast majority of them are fake citations that do not support the preceding text. (It is also immediately obvious, from the way citations are added here, that they are fake.) The only parts that are actually supported, such as the population in South Korea, are also discussed in the main "Koreans in China" article and it makes little sense to duplicate them there.
+In the future, the topic of [[Koreans in China]] could still benefit from a split between articles on Korean Chinese citizens (Chaoxianzu) and recent South Korean arrivals in China. However it is now being split in the worst possible way: we are getting a extremely low-quality new article on Chaoxianzu, and another article that claims to be about non-Chinese citizens, but still mainly deals with the chaoxianzu. Splitting content about South Koreans from the main article would be a much better solution. [[User:Esiymbro|Esiymbro]] ([[User talk:Esiymbro|talk]]) 22:48, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
 *<small class="delsort-notice">Note:  This discussion has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting|deletion sorting]] lists for the following topics: [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Ethnic groups|Ethnic groups]] and [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/China|China]]. [[User:Esiymbro|Esiymbro]] ([[User talk:Esiymbro|talk]]) 22:48, 27 November 2023 (UTC)</small>