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*'''Delete''' to the [[WP:LASTING]] notes above, I'd add [[WP:GEOSCOPE]], [[WP:DEPTH]] and [[WP:PERSISTENCE]], all of which are lacking. For {{u|RadioactiveBoulevardier}}'s objections above, I'd say that the tide of ill-advised AfD conclusions that go against policy are lamentable, but should not be used as a reason to keep something that does not meet [[WP:GNG]] or [[WP:NEVENT]]. If it happened in Miami and had the same sourcing, I'd !vote the exactly same way (and have on the plethora of news events like yet another mass shooting that similarly lacks DEPTH and EFFECT). Cheers, [[User:Last1in|Last1in]] ([[User talk:Last1in|talk]]) 16:05, 7 December 2023 (UTC) |
*'''Delete''' to the [[WP:LASTING]] notes above, I'd add [[WP:GEOSCOPE]], [[WP:DEPTH]] and [[WP:PERSISTENCE]], all of which are lacking. For {{u|RadioactiveBoulevardier}}'s objections above, I'd say that the tide of ill-advised AfD conclusions that go against policy are lamentable, but should not be used as a reason to keep something that does not meet [[WP:GNG]] or [[WP:NEVENT]]. If it happened in Miami and had the same sourcing, I'd !vote the exactly same way (and have on the plethora of news events like yet another mass shooting that similarly lacks DEPTH and EFFECT). Cheers, [[User:Last1in|Last1in]] ([[User talk:Last1in|talk]]) 16:05, 7 December 2023 (UTC) |
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*<b>Weak keep</b> I feel like if an event happened in the US of this scale, it would be SNOW kept at AFD. We have to be wary of systematic bias on Wikipedia. [[Special:Contributions/166.198.251.71|166.198.251.71]] ([[User talk:166.198.251.71|talk]]) 23:50, 7 December 2023 (UTC) |
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Non-notable electrical fire, does not meet WP:EVENT. Natg 19 (talk) 20:49, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Events and Pakistan. Natg 19 (talk) 20:49, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
- Keep : While it may not be a notable event anymore, the article can still be improved upon. Rager7 (talk) 01:32, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- Keep So long as we continue to apply WP:NOTNEWS as narrowly as we do…the article seems to pass GNG and as it was in a non-Western (but somewhat Anglophone) country I’m inclined to give the benefit of the doubt notability-wise.
- If it had happened in Miami, would it be up for deletion? I don’t know. But looking at it cursorily, a bit of expansion would help. RadioactiveBoulevardier (talk) 22:16, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Shopping malls-related deletion discussions. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 22:18, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
- Delete: I don't see this as having the WP:LASTING impact required by WP:EVENTCRIT. Owen× ☎ 23:32, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
- Delete. Tragic occurrance, but fails WP:EVENTCRIT. Tails Wx 02:36, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
- Delete to the WP:LASTING notes above, I'd add WP:GEOSCOPE, WP:DEPTH and WP:PERSISTENCE, all of which are lacking. For RadioactiveBoulevardier's objections above, I'd say that the tide of ill-advised AfD conclusions that go against policy are lamentable, but should not be used as a reason to keep something that does not meet WP:GNG or WP:NEVENT. If it happened in Miami and had the same sourcing, I'd !vote the exactly same way (and have on the plethora of news events like yet another mass shooting that similarly lacks DEPTH and EFFECT). Cheers, Last1in (talk) 16:05, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 22:57, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
- Weak keep I feel like if an event happened in the US of this scale, it would be SNOW kept at AFD. We have to be wary of systematic bias on Wikipedia. 166.198.251.71 (talk) 23:50, 7 December 2023 (UTC)