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{{talk refs}} [[User:YBG|YBG]] ([[User talk:YBG#top|talk]]) 07:03, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
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:It should probably be noted that this is in the in-plane electrical conductivity for carbon. Perpendicular to the planes its conductivity is lower than any metal.
:It should probably be noted that this is in the in-plane electrical conductivity for carbon. Perpendicular to the planes its conductivity is lower than any metal.
:Is the thermal conductivity supposed to be for graphite or diamond? B, Si, and Ge also have thermal conductivities within the range of metals. For black P, I can only find [https://pubs.aip.org/aip/apm/article/8/12/120903/122580/The-electrical-thermal-and-thermoelectric thin-film] [https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms9573 values], but they are within the metallic range too. Se and Te are a bit below the range of metals, but noticeably higher than most of the nonmetals in the strict sense (i.e. not metalloids). [[User:Double sharp|Double sharp]] ([[User talk:Double sharp|talk]]) 08:58, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
:Is the thermal conductivity supposed to be for graphite or diamond? B, Si, and Ge also have thermal conductivities within the range of metals. For black P, I can only find [https://pubs.aip.org/aip/apm/article/8/12/120903/122580/The-electrical-thermal-and-thermoelectric thin-film] [https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms9573 values], but they are within the metallic range too. Se and Te are a bit below the range of metals, but noticeably higher than the insulators (highest among them is iodine, which is a semiconductor in two dimensions and an insulator in the other one). [[User:Double sharp|Double sharp]] ([[User talk:Double sharp|talk]]) 08:58, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

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NaCl polyhedra

Hi, I hope you can help me out as I have nominated this image to become a Featured Picture and now there is some questions about this image.
I hope you have the knowledge to provide answers to the questions at this link. The questions are;
1) This representation is different to all the others I've Googled. Does it have Academic authentication?
2) But could you add to the description about which colors are which elements.
I'm a graphic worker and have no knowledge of this subject.
I really hope you can help me or tell me someone else who might be able, thanks. --always ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 17:15, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I have got the needed information from another user so this is  Done, thanks. --always ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 19:55, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Template:List of aqueous ions/header

My edit was to get Template:List of aqueous ions/header out of Wikipedia:Database reports/Invalid Navbar links when it next runs. Your revert will mean that it remains in the report. Please also note that the namespace prefix is unnecessary. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 16:14, 4 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Redrose64, I saw you did the same in here. But actually, the v-t-e links should lead to the templatepage with the content. The database report title is wrong in these cases. I have no idea on how to prevent these, eh, incorrect edits. -DePiep (talk) 16:28, 4 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Why is a navbar needed anyway? How often is an edit to Template:List of aqueous ions required, for which a navbar would make that edit easier to carry out? --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 17:50, 4 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Is an unrelated question. (The answer is in the wiki principles). -DePiep (talk) 12:26, 5 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Redrose64: Excluding navbars from infrequently edited templates could be misunderstood as a claim of WP:OWNership. Including them is a subtle way of inviting editors to collaborate.
I have modified the parent template to pass the navbar in as a parameter so that it only appears in the parent template, and not when the header appears independently or as a part of testcases. This should remove it from next month's report. @DePiep: perhaps this same technique could be used in {{ISO 15924 script codes and related Unicode data}} and its /header sub-template.
In my opinion, the process that generates these reports should explicitly recognize the template-header pattern and make provision for it, not by excluding them as it apparently does /sandbox templates, but by stripping off the /header (or perhaps /anything) before making the comparison.
In an unrelated side note, so that the content inside the template or block is more easily editable in situ where it was found, without having track it down through examining transclusion code. (as it says in {{navbar}}, I had contemplated making the edit link point to the /data subtemplate, which I expect would be the most likely place editors would wish to make changes.
YBG (talk) 14:31, 5 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Needslessly complicating (isn't this why the header is separated in the first place?), and only use would be to mislead a non-understanding administrative bot. -DePiep (talk) 14:36, 5 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, needless. But it looks like most of the errors found by the bot are things that can and should be fixed, e.g., typos like "Hungaru" instead of "Hungary" (which I just fixed) and obsolete links left over from page moves. So to help editors like RR64 focus on things that really make a difference, I don't mind a little bit of complication. It's my little bit to facilitate the overall improvement of the encyclopedia. An even better solution would be to make the bot smarter, but that requires more research and time than I'm willing to invest. YBG (talk) 14:46, 5 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Not jumping for joy, but I think it is OK if editors like Redrose64 understand this database-dump-limitation quirk and so can edit/notedit accordingly.
BTW, I met this solution I already employed (the table rows are in-article today, so no top-v-t-e-links useful): {{Isotopes table}}. Looks nice imo. -DePiep (talk) 00:03, 7 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]


Template problems

Hello, YBG,

It seems that you added a CSD tag to Template:List of aqueous ions/row/sandbox which has now caused every template that includes this one to have a speedy deletion tag on them. Are all of the templates in Category:Candidates for speedy deletion by user supposed to be deleted? Can you fix this? If you have a template you want deleted, maybe approach an administrator so that the CSD tag doesn't get transcluded on other templates. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 02:43, 9 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Liz: Thank you. I meant to change the calling template before adding the CSD tag. It should all be OK now. YBG (talk) 03:34, 9 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, templates are an area I don't understand so thank you for fixing the problem. The templates are gone from the CSD category now. Liz Read! Talk! 04:12, 9 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi. The data from Hawaii from the NOAA page, as per "Unreferenced data assumed to be from NOAA" --Jbaranao (talk) 02:00, 31 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Jbaranao: Thank you for the explanation. Feel free to restore your edit, but please make sure you include an edit summary. Edit summaries are always a good idea, but especially when doing something that could be viewed some skepticism, such as removing a reference. I occasionally forget to include an edit summary myself, and so I have selected the preference that reminds me when I forget. Thank you for your contributions, and happy editing. YBG (talk) 03:22, 31 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Dutch Bros History request

Hi there! I'm following up on some interest you expressed on the Dutch Bros Talk page. I responded to your comments about my History request but didn't hear back, so I thought I’d reach out a little more directly. If you feel I didn't quite address your concerns, I'm happy to discuss further. Otherwise, any additional time and input you might be willing to give to help me with my draft is much appreciated. Thanks in advance! Hillaryjbrown (talk) 04:46, 31 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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NaCl images

Here’s what I had in mind to replace the picture and quote is at Nonmetal § Halogen nonmetals

Silver chunks covered be a clear liquid in a sealed bottle
A translucent pale yellow gas in a sealed bottle
A small pile of white crystals in front of a tipped-over cylindrical with a few grains spilling out of the holes in its screw-top lid
sodium (Na),chlorine (Cl), and table salt (NaCl)
Corrosive chlorine, a halogen nonmetal, combines with highly reactive sodium to form stable, unreactive table salt.

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“Metal” & “nonmetal” in their articles

Stats gathered on 12/19/2023

Metal/Nonmetal articles

 18  246  “nonmetal”
  9   53  “metalloid”
  3    2  “metallicity”
358  234  (metal per se)
387  536  “metal”

Other article pairs for comparison

Vertebrate/Invertebrate articles

  6   93  “invertebrate”
126   17  (vertebrate per se)
133  110  “vertebrate” total

Rational/Irrational number articles

 12  104  “irrational”
110   46  (rational per se)
122  150  “rational”
 14   26  (ratio per se)
136  176  “ratio”

Algebraic/Transcendental number articles

 6  106  “Transcendental”
65   53  “Algebraic”
71  159  (total) 

YBG (talk) 16:17, 19 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Sandbh: As an aside, I’m wondering if you could speculate why “metal” is mentioned so much more in nonmetal than “vertebrate” is in invertebrate, or “rational” in irrational, or “algebraic” in transcendental number? Can you think of any other similar pairs of opposites worth comparing? YBG (talk) 21:32, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Complex/Rational 03:55, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, @ComplexRational! Same to you and yours! I note that you still have a few minutes left of the old year, but I still have over three hours. Your Atalanta BC has been enjoying the new year for nearly six hours, and @Sandbh for nearly 16 hours. YBG (talk) 04:59, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Happy New Year! Double sharp (talk) 09:27, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

thought of your skill with tables/diagrams

Do you have any suggestions on how the tables at Candidates Tournament could be made clearer? Double sharp (talk) 05:02, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I’ll have a look. YBG (talk) 05:23, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Those tables are complicated! I’ll start to nibble around the edges. YBG (talk) 05:54, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Highly conductive nonmetals

Highly conductive nonmetals
(with range of metals)
Thermal[1] W m−1 K−1
antimony
24.3
arsenic
50
carbon
2000
6.3 to 429
(neptunium - silver)
Electrical[2] S•cm−1
antimony
2.3 × 104
arsenic
3.9 × 104
carbon
3 × 104
0.69 × 104 to 63 × 104
(manganese - silver)

@Sandb: I think this little table is superior to the prose note in nonmetal, but I can’t figure out how to get it into the note and I don’t think it belongs in the main text.

References

  1. ^ Cite error: The named reference A&W was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
  2. ^ Cite error: The named reference Jenkins was invoked but never defined (see the help page).

YBG (talk) 07:03, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It should probably be noted that this is in the in-plane electrical conductivity for carbon. Perpendicular to the planes its conductivity is lower than any metal.
Is the thermal conductivity supposed to be for graphite or diamond? B, Si, and Ge also have thermal conductivities within the range of metals. For black P, I can only find thin-film values, but they are within the metallic range too. Se and Te are a bit below the range of metals, but noticeably higher than the insulators (highest among them is iodine, which is a semiconductor in two dimensions and an insulator in the other one). Double sharp (talk) 08:58, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]