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::::Please can we discuss moves on the actual pages rather than on the talk page of an article many editors may not have even visited yet? [[User:Quinnnnnby|<span style="color: #cb87d4">Quinby</span>]] ([[User talk:Quinnnnnby|<span style="color: #878fd4">talk</span>]]) 14:16, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
::::Please can we discuss moves on the actual pages rather than on the talk page of an article many editors may not have even visited yet? [[User:Quinnnnnby|<span style="color: #cb87d4">Quinby</span>]] ([[User talk:Quinnnnnby|<span style="color: #878fd4">talk</span>]]) 14:16, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
::@[[User:Doktorbuk|Doktorbuk]] The Wellingborough by-election is already underway and there is a vacancy. Realistically, that won't be cancelled. This one however could be if there is delay to move the writ. In any case, calling any of them future rather than 2024 by-elections is redundant. The by-elections either will happen this year, or there will be an election and all/some may not take place, if the latter situation applies this page should just not exist rather than being called 'future'. [[User:Quinnnnnby|<span style="color: #cb87d4">Quinby</span>]] ([[User talk:Quinnnnnby|<span style="color: #878fd4">talk</span>]]) 14:13, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
::@[[User:Doktorbuk|Doktorbuk]] The Wellingborough by-election is already underway and there is a vacancy. Realistically, that won't be cancelled. This one however could be if there is delay to move the writ. In any case, calling any of them future rather than 2024 by-elections is redundant. The by-elections either will happen this year, or there will be an election and all/some may not take place, if the latter situation applies this page should just not exist rather than being called 'future'. [[User:Quinnnnnby|<span style="color: #cb87d4">Quinby</span>]] ([[User talk:Quinnnnnby|<span style="color: #878fd4">talk</span>]]) 14:13, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
:::GOV.UK says {{tq|A new Writ is usually issued within three months of the vacancy. There have been a few times when seats remained vacant longer than six months. Seats will be left vacant towards the end of a Parliament. They are then filled at the general election.}} So it all depends on the date of the election. But as I mentioned above, that election would have to take place this year, because Parliament has to be dissolved this year. Sunak has pretty much ruled out a general election in May, and as he has a reasonable majority the ball is in his court, so to speak. The closest by-election date I've found so far is the [[1997 Wirral South by-election]] on 27 February 1997, with that year's general election taking place on 1 May. So there's a good chance this one will go ahead. [[User:This is Paul|This is Paul]] ([[User talk:This is Paul|talk]]) 17:40, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
:::[https://www.parliament.uk/about/how/elections-and-voting/by-elections/ GOV.UK] says {{tq|A new Writ is usually issued within three months of the vacancy. There have been a few times when seats remained vacant longer than six months. Seats will be left vacant towards the end of a Parliament. They are then filled at the general election.}} So it all depends on the date of the election. But as I mentioned above, that election would have to take place this year, because Parliament has to be dissolved this year. Sunak has pretty much ruled out a general election in May, and as he has a reasonable majority the ball is in his court, so to speak. The closest by-election date I've found so far is the [[1997 Wirral South by-election]] on 27 February 1997, with that year's general election taking place on 1 May. So there's a good chance this one will go ahead. [[User:This is Paul|This is Paul]] ([[User talk:This is Paul|talk]]) 17:40, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

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What is the logic for moving this article?

What is the logic for moving this article from 2024 Kingswood by-election to Future Kingswood by-election? Regardless of when Skidmore resigns, the next general election must be held before the end of January 2025, and a by-election would need to be held at least three months before then (no later than October 2024). So, given that we're in 2024 now, this election can only be held in 2024. This is Paul (talk) 23:28, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If a general election is called for May, this by-election won't be called. Look at Manchester Gorton for a recent equivalent. doktorb wordsdeeds 23:39, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You could apply the same argument to the 2024 Wellingborough by-election, the date of which is yet to be confirmed. Also, it's worth bearing in mind that Sunak has signalled the election will be in the second half of the year. This is Paul (talk) 23:52, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I can move Wellingborough if you like doktorb wordsdeeds 23:59, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Go for it, This is Paul (talk) 00:17, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Please can we discuss moves on the actual pages rather than on the talk page of an article many editors may not have even visited yet? Quinby (talk) 14:16, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Doktorbuk The Wellingborough by-election is already underway and there is a vacancy. Realistically, that won't be cancelled. This one however could be if there is delay to move the writ. In any case, calling any of them future rather than 2024 by-elections is redundant. The by-elections either will happen this year, or there will be an election and all/some may not take place, if the latter situation applies this page should just not exist rather than being called 'future'. Quinby (talk) 14:13, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
GOV.UK says A new Writ is usually issued within three months of the vacancy. There have been a few times when seats remained vacant longer than six months. Seats will be left vacant towards the end of a Parliament. They are then filled at the general election. So it all depends on the date of the election. But as I mentioned above, that election would have to take place this year, because Parliament has to be dissolved this year. Sunak has pretty much ruled out a general election in May, and as he has a reasonable majority the ball is in his court, so to speak. The closest by-election date I've found so far is the 1997 Wirral South by-election on 27 February 1997, with that year's general election taking place on 1 May. So there's a good chance this one will go ahead. This is Paul (talk) 17:40, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]