Talk:Neoconservatism

Post-Neoconservative era

Political monitors throughout the early 21st century have been preparing for a post-Neoconservative American era.

Inclusion of Oriana Fallaci on list of neoconservatives.

The inclusion of Oriana Fallaci on this list seems wrong to me. She was not associated closely with any of the other movement neoconservatives. During the time that the neoconservative was completely focused on the projection of American power abroad and the Iraq war she wrote mostly about domestic issues in Italy, in Italian! She properly fits into the European New Right, a group which is at odds with the Neoconservative movemnet much more than they agree with them.

I'm un-clear on the process which was used to assemble this list but I would like to start a discussion about removing Fallaci. She is deceased and can not speak for herself on this matter, so extra care devolves to the editors to not mischaracterize her. Have no doubt that for many people this is a rogues gallery, and so including people here can be seen as a risk for score settling and mischief making in character destruction and ongoing political disputes.

meta for Google

For whatever reason, when one Google's "neoconservative", the abstract that pops up under the Wikipedia link reads:

"Neoconservatism (commonly shortened to neocon) is a political movement born in the United States during the 1960s among conservative leaning Democrats who became disenchanted with the party's foreign policy."

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Ronald Reagan was not a neocon!

The listing of Ronald Reagan as a neocon is preposterous! Now George H.W. Bush is a different story with his unnecessary interventions in Panama or the war with Iraq in 1990 with a massive invasion of 400,000 American troops is exactly what Neocons do. Reagan only limited his policy to rebuilding deterrence of the Soviets and a quick incursion into Granada where American citizens and students were caught in a conflict started by Cuba. Boom in and out and it proved our military was so atrophied under Carters management the predecessor to JSOC was incompetent and couldn’t communicate with other US forces and lost members of the Navy SEAL teams on the Beaches. Libya and Quadafi blew up a passenger liner over Lockerby Scotland and we responded by bombing his palace but no major invasions or regime changes. 50.53.176.7 (talk) 03:48, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

Reagan was no neocon!

True he started out in his misguided youth as a Liberal Democrat until the marxists tried to take control of the Screan Actors Guild and other Hollywood Guilds in the 40s and 50s but got enlightened and switched sides. Watch his GE speeches of the 1960s and you will see he did believe in a strong national defense but not constant interventions. 50.53.176.7 (talk) 04:03, 8 March 2022 (UTC)