Talk:Windows 11

Initial release date

There appears to have been a brief edit war earlier in the month about the initial release date (October 4 vs. 5) and the only source cited for this date had long been Panos Panay's official blog statement which had been prepared on October 4, 2021, but clearly stated a release date of October 5 as the date was reached in each time zone around the world.[6] However, User talk:Jm.Huang did bring up a support document which has the other date (October 4).[7] I'm inclined to believe Panay because I remember Windows 11 getting pushed out on that day in my time zone, but alas WP:OR. So I'm going to be bold like Schrödinger and place the date as BOTH with both sources until someone has more concrete confirmation of one or the other. —Pippinitis (talk) 09:17, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

Reception of Windows 11

In reference to this passage in the lede: "Windows 11 has received a mixed reception. Pre-release coverage of the operating system focused on its stricter hardware requirements, with discussions over whether they were legitimately intended to improve the security of Windows or as a ploy to upsell users to newer devices..."

It seems that the "ploy to upsell users to newer devices" is only the tip of the iceberg. Recently I was helping a friend with her purchase of a new laptop, which came with Windows 11 installed. Previously she had always used the Firefox Browser, as do I, so I recommended downloading the install application from the Firefox website, as she wanted to transfer bookmarks that took years to accumulate. When I attempted to install Firefox, a Microsoft message window popped up and said there was no need for other browsers because Windows 11 comes with Microsoft's browser Microsoft Edge. Okay, so I ignored the message and continued to try and install Firefox, but got these run around messages trying to lead me into setting up some other kind of account, and ultimately I simply could not install Firefox.

Also, it seems more and more Windows is being dumbed down and tailored for online shoppers, video-gamers and media minded users. For example, 'Window Explorer', where you can see an outline of one's folders, has been dumbed down in its search capacity. Before Windows 10, you could confine your search to a date range of files, say from 2017 to 2018, but now what they give us are options to search "this week", and "last week", "this year", and "last year", with no provisions to define a date range search.

Re: 'Cut-paste' and 'copy-paste': Before one could simply block text, or select a file, right click and select the cut or copy function, go to the target page or folder and simply select 'paste'. Now to select cut, copy and paste you have to select a file, right click, and then, to use any of these basic functions, you have to select 'other options' and make the selection there. Very tedious when trying to manage or transfer dozens of individual files.

It would seem problems like these are going to be among some of the criticisms that Windows 11 will be receiving, and should be noted in the Reception section. I realize, however, that reliable sources to this effect would be required, so it seems criticisms like these have a remote chance of making it into the article. Hopefully I'm wrong on that account. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 00:21, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

Cut, copy and paste are the first three options in the right-click context menu (the top row). You might not have noticed them because they are flat icons now, not text.2405:201:F010:408A:A525:11E0:67DC:1C3C (talk) 10:34, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

"flat icons", by which you mean hieroglyphs. There's a reason the world moved from hieroglyphics to alphabetic writing systems (with the exception of Chinese, which is something else entirely). Apparently Microsoft with its flat icons is still in the BC era. (And yes, I realize this is just my personal opinion, even if I'm right.) Mcswell (talk) 23:39, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

"Windows 11 has received a mixed reception" was arbitrarily changed to "Windows 11 has received a mostly positive reception" by 24.199.171.6 in revision 16:09, 26 July 2023 (UTC). Neither statement is substantiated and I would argue that the current statement is false. I think that the statement should be considered for removal. -Bobbert (talk) 03:49, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

 Not done for now: The "Reception" section contains the sentence "Reception of Windows 11 upon its reveal was positive", and most of the commentary appears to be positive. Whether the sentence in the lead you are talking about consists WP:SYNTH or is just an acceptable summary of the article per MOS:INTRO is up for debate, so I think consensus is needed before such a change. Liu1126 (talk) 10:38, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

The 'Launch' section beneath 'pre-release' contains both praise and criticism, and I'd suggest that criticism after release is more relevant than the former. I think 'mixed reception' is the more accurate description for the lede. Whether there's greater weight to either side is impossible to discern - but that's to be expected with anything having to do with MS Windows... cheers. anastrophe, an editor he is. 18:44, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

Languages

I don't see a row of Thai in the table for languages. Quang, Bùi Huy (talk) 08:56, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 March 2023

In the line

   Windows 11 features major changes to the Windows

change the link to the Windows shell from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shell_(computing) to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_shell (the former is a text only user interface, the latter is the graphical user interface, which is actually meant here). Lord Skunk (talk) 21:12, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

 Done Lightoil (talk) 23:08, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

citation needed

"although Microsoft may provide exceptions to the TPM 2.0 requirement for OEMs" needs a citation 89.200.43.139 (talk) 11:24, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

The "editions" section is factually inaccurate

The "editions" section of the article falsely claims that Windows 11 has three editions only (Home, Pro, and SE). I can see more editions on Microsoft's website.

• Home
• Pro
• Pro for Workstation
• Enterprise
• Enterprise Multisession
• Education
• IoT Enterprise
• Pro Education

References

93.110.131.82 (talk) 06:26, 20 October 2023 (UTC)