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:Hi {{u|Slaking Hermit}}! There are lots of ways, but I think the best one is just to look for ways to improve articles you're already reading. Even if you just notice a typo or an error or a poorly worded sentence every few weeks, that's still an improvement, and you'll slowly find yourself getting more involved. If you're looking for something more active than that, you could try finding an interesting page (maybe something from [[Wikipedia:Unusual articles]], the ultimate rabbit hole) and trying to improve either that page or a lesser-known page linked from it. Or you could look at the lists of articles needing various forms of help, like [[Wikipedia:Community portal]] (scroll down to "Help out") or [[Wikipedia:Task Center]]. Just find something that you find interesting to work on, and don't let it turn into an obligation. |
:Hi {{u|Slaking Hermit}}! There are lots of ways, but I think the best one is just to look for ways to improve articles you're already reading. Even if you just notice a typo or an error or a poorly worded sentence every few weeks, that's still an improvement, and you'll slowly find yourself getting more involved. If you're looking for something more active than that, you could try finding an interesting page (maybe something from [[Wikipedia:Unusual articles]], the ultimate rabbit hole) and trying to improve either that page or a lesser-known page linked from it. Or you could look at the lists of articles needing various forms of help, like [[Wikipedia:Community portal]] (scroll down to "Help out") or [[Wikipedia:Task Center]]. Just find something that you find interesting to work on, and don't let it turn into an obligation. |
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:Don't second-guess yourself too much or worry about understanding all the rules: one of those rules is to [[WP:BEBOLD|be bold]], and if you think something's an improvement, chances are you're right (and if not, someone will probably let you know). The two edits you made both look good to me, so you're off to a great start. The more you edit, the more familiar you'll get with the rules, norms, formatting, etc., and I promise it'll get much less intimidating even if you make a mistake or two along the way. Feel free to let me know if you have any questions! [[User:Extraordinary Writ|Extraordinary Writ]] ([[User talk:Extraordinary Writ#top|talk]]) 09:40, 25 January 2024 (UTC) |
:Don't second-guess yourself too much or worry about understanding all the rules: one of those rules is to [[WP:BEBOLD|be bold]], and if you think something's an improvement, chances are you're right (and if not, someone will probably let you know). The two edits you made both look good to me, so you're off to a great start. The more you edit, the more familiar you'll get with the rules, norms, formatting, etc., and I promise it'll get much less intimidating even if you make a mistake or two along the way. Feel free to let me know if you have any questions! [[User:Extraordinary Writ|Extraordinary Writ]] ([[User talk:Extraordinary Writ#top|talk]]) 09:40, 25 January 2024 (UTC) |
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::Thank you Extraordinary Writ, that's really good advice and I appreciate the reassurance. [[User:Slaking Hermit|Slaking Hermit]] ([[User talk:Slaking Hermit|talk]]) 20:54, 25 January 2024 (UTC) |
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By far the funniest and most clever Wikipedia page I randomly stumbled on. Kudos. The fish genuinely made me laugh out loud — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sumtimz I B Learnin (talk • contribs) 07:04, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
Question from ChunkyBubbles (18:57, 30 December 2023)
An edit I made was deleted about a month and a half ago. Can I change settings so I am notified when this sort of thing happens? --ChunkyBubbles (talk) 18:57, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
- ChunkyBubbles, there unfortunately isn't a foolproof way to do this. If you go to the "notifications" tab of Special:Preferences, there's an "edit revert" box you can check, but the system isn't smart enough to recognize all reverts (and it wouldn't have noticed the one you're here about). By the way, if you haven't yet, I'd encourage you to take a look at our policy on writing about living people: it's very important that we write these articles carefully and use only reliable sources. Let me know if you have any other questions. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 08:25, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – January 2024
News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2023).
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Arbitration
- Following the 2023 Arbitration Committee elections, the following editors have been appointed to the Arbitration Committee: Aoidh, Cabayi, Firefly, HJ Mitchell, Maxim, Sdrqaz, ToBeFree, Z1720.
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FreeMediaKid!
A few weeks ago, I had a request seeking private discussion about my relations onsite. I did not want to discuss it openly, because I calculated that the contents would be too disturbing and the conversation would get redacted and revisions deleted anyway, but seeing that you were the first to grasp what I needed, are you in the mood to trade emails? Remember, this is about me and my current state of mind. The aim is to address what has been bothering me as of late. FreeMediaKid$ 04:03, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- FreeMediaKid!, if you're confident it's not better suited for oversighters, ArbCom, etc., you're welcome to send me an email. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 05:05, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- I have been busy uploading material to the Internet Archive much of the time since the original post, so I apologize for responding this late. Still, I want to better equip myself with how to handle what is still bothering me and not need to raise the issue again in the future. There is nothing about the conversation that requires oversight, and the ArbCom seems like the wrong place to go about it either. I have just sent the email. FreeMediaKid$ 18:50, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
- Email received; I'll try to respond sometime in the next few days. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 21:11, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
- I have been busy uploading material to the Internet Archive much of the time since the original post, so I apologize for responding this late. Still, I want to better equip myself with how to handle what is still bothering me and not need to raise the issue again in the future. There is nothing about the conversation that requires oversight, and the ArbCom seems like the wrong place to go about it either. I have just sent the email. FreeMediaKid$ 18:50, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
Hello, Extraordinary Writ,
Thank you for relisting this AFD discussion. I've found that every so often, XFDcloser messes up relisting options. Either it doesn't remove the discussion from the old daily log or it doesn't post it to the new daily log or, even worse, it removes the AFD from the old log page and doesn't repost it to the new daily log and the discussion just falls through the cracks like it did here. But since XFDcloser works correctly 99% of the time, I guess it's an unpredictable bug to fix. But I appreciate you taking care of a problem that I didn't notice had occurred. Thanks! Liz Read! Talk! 01:35, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
- No worries: I think it's happened to me before too. Thanks to Jax 0677 for pointing this one out at WP:CR. I just checked for others and it looks like the same thing happened at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Abdulieh Janneh—I've now relisted it as well. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 01:50, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
About you sending me the 3 refs for The Fifth Quarter
Hey @Extraordinary Writ, can you please send me the 3 refs for The Fifth Quarter via email? I want them for an expansion of Draft:The Fifth Quarter (TV series).
In exchange for the references, I have provided you with this reference.
Pierik, Jon (24 June 2011). "Seven chases Taylor but Ten exits broadcasts". The Age. Fairfax Media. Retrieved 15 January 2024. Yours sincerely, TechGeek105 (his talk page) 04:24, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
Question from Kitography (19:36, 16 January 2024)
Hi! I'm trying to mark a change as reverted, and don't seem to be able to make that tag appear. The (changes) in question are the edits to the She's the Man article by this IP address user: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/2600:1702:4280:8B0:8CCF:1A99:48E:3DCF . When I clicked undo that didn't work (conflicts).
Going back and forth on this sort of sucks - I did a bit of a write up on my user page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kitography#Busted:_She's_the_Man_was_not_released_in_2005 , so I would love to know how to give a user (well, IP address) a warning / block? That took a lot of time to fix. --Kitography (talk) 19:36, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Kitography. I wouldn't worry too much about whether the system recognizes it as reverted or not: it's pretty finicky (especially when there have been intervening edits by others), so as long as you've gotten rid of all the problem additions, that's all that matters. For warnings: when you're looking through an article's history (pages like this one), there's a blue or red button that says "talk" next to each username or IP address. If you click this button, you can leave that person a message or warning; if they continue making unhelpful edits after being warned, you can go to a page like this one to ask an admin to block them. In this case, though, the user has been already been warned several times and even blocked once previously, so I've now blocked them again, this time for a longer period. Thanks for helping clean this up! This is a part of Wikipedia where our processes can be kind of complicated, so if you run into any other similar issues, let me know and I'd be happy to take a look. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 20:52, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you! This is much appreciated. Kitography (talk) 18:49, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
Hello, Other Writ! Just out of curiosity--did you try to delete this page yourself and were prevented? My understanding is that regular admins have the ability to delete interface pages; they just can't undelete or edit them; just wanted to check if that's accurate. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 06:06, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Writ Keeper. Yep, it did indeed give me an error message (like Template:Protected interface, except with "Only interface administrators and interface editors can delete it"). I know I can delete non-.js MediaWiki pages as well as .js pages in userspace, but .js MediaWiki pages seem to follow their own rules. Oh well, gives you guys something to do. Thanks for taking care of this! Extraordinary Writ (talk) 06:27, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- Of course, no problem! It makes sense that Mediawiki JS files have their own rules, I suppose, but it's interesting that the chart in Wikipedia:Interface_administrators#Technical_access doesn't draw any distinctions between the two. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 06:31, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
Question from HalloKurdish (17:22, 17 January 2024)
Hey! I have a question, how can I use pictures as references? --HalloKurdish (talk) 17:23, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- Hello, HalloKurdish, and welcome to Wikipedia! Generally pictures don't make the best references because it's often unclear how to interpret them, resulting in various problems. I'd recommend finding a more conventional source like a book, newspaper, or trustworthy website to support your claim. If you have any questions about doing that or if you still want to cite an image, let me know the specifics and I'd be happy to provide additional help. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 09:50, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
- But for example sources for peshmerga having M1117 Guardian or BMP-2 are only by pictures and there is no article which talks about them, that’s why I’m asking HalloKurdish (talk) 15:52, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
- Now blocked as a sockpuppet. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 18:47, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- But for example sources for peshmerga having M1117 Guardian or BMP-2 are only by pictures and there is no article which talks about them, that’s why I’m asking HalloKurdish (talk) 15:52, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
Books & Bytes – Issue 60
The Wikipedia Library: Books & Bytes
Issue 60, November – December 2023
- Three new partners
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- How to track partner suggestions
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Question from Slaking Hermit (18:35, 24 January 2024)
Heya!
I'm excited to be here on Wikipedia and I am keen to get stuck in. I tried out a couple of edits and then thought I should really read the Getting Started page and learn more of the basics. I found editting tricky, in a philosophical way? Like, what is an improvement, really... Who am I to decide the 'right' way something should be written...
Anyway, I got completely overwhelmed by everything that there is to read and learn about the Wikipedia project and community and how to take part. I'm easily overwhelmed at the best of times, if I'm honest, and there is so much here. For years I've loved getting lost traversing a subject, leaving trails of tabs open in the browser to be forgotten and then my laptop gets grouchy.
Sorry I'm rambling. I think I'm messaging to ask - What are all the different ways that people get into Wikipedia? How do people find their way? Any tips for combining open minded exploration with productive focus? --Slaking Hermit (talk) 18:35, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Slaking Hermit! There are lots of ways, but I think the best one is just to look for ways to improve articles you're already reading. Even if you just notice a typo or an error or a poorly worded sentence every few weeks, that's still an improvement, and you'll slowly find yourself getting more involved. If you're looking for something more active than that, you could try finding an interesting page (maybe something from Wikipedia:Unusual articles, the ultimate rabbit hole) and trying to improve either that page or a lesser-known page linked from it. Or you could look at the lists of articles needing various forms of help, like Wikipedia:Community portal (scroll down to "Help out") or Wikipedia:Task Center. Just find something that you find interesting to work on, and don't let it turn into an obligation.
- Don't second-guess yourself too much or worry about understanding all the rules: one of those rules is to be bold, and if you think something's an improvement, chances are you're right (and if not, someone will probably let you know). The two edits you made both look good to me, so you're off to a great start. The more you edit, the more familiar you'll get with the rules, norms, formatting, etc., and I promise it'll get much less intimidating even if you make a mistake or two along the way. Feel free to let me know if you have any questions! Extraordinary Writ (talk) 09:40, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you Extraordinary Writ, that's really good advice and I appreciate the reassurance. Slaking Hermit (talk) 20:54, 25 January 2024 (UTC)