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Russia-Ukraine — better source

The article says Baudet took the Russian position on the Russian intervention in the Ukrainian civil conflict. However, the source it gives states that Baudet’s opponents accused him of doing so, not that he actually did it. The insults of opponents don’t count as a proper source, even when they’re reported, without endorsement, by state media. I want to the party YouTube channel and found a video condemning the Russian intervention but saying there’s context strategic to it, which “does not justify” the intervention but does explain it. Hardly an endorsement of the Russian presentation of the war. It seems to me Baudet, in fact, does not support the conflict or the way it has supposedly been presented in Russia but merely wants to find a way to end it as quickly as possible and prevent such things from happening in the future. And not waste his time at parliament in ceremoniously repeating his condemnation as a mere, useless gesture. If you want that section to remain unaltered, I would recommend finding a source that actually backs up the claim, rather than merely noting it has been used as an attack by his opponents, as the current citation does. NatriumGedrogt (talk) 01:15, 15 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Politics/Political parties regarding the inclusion of the party flag in the infobox of this article. The thread is Party flags in infoboxes. Thank you. — Ætoms ^[talk] 23:45, 10 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Russophilia

Shouldn't we insert "Russophilia" into the infobox's ideology section? This party is fully pro-russian, we cannot even say they're neutral. Other wiki pages like the Slovakian party SMER's, are already have it. Heringcápa (talk) 18:05, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with this, Baudet and FvD have gone on record as to praising Russia and Vladimir Putin several times over the past few years. AbraxasAbominog (talk) 15:12, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

position and sources

these following sources should be in historical position instead of current position because the publish date of each one of theme is before the 2020 party split and their publish dates are very close to the publish dates of the sources in historical position.

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Pomchi-Inu87 (talk) 07:19, 6 May 2023 (UTC) Pomchi-Inu87 (talk) 07:19, 6 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Fallon, Katy (25 March 2019). "Forum voor Democratie: Why has the Dutch far right surged?". Al Jazeera. Retrieved 26 March 2019.
^ Boztas, Senay (23 March 2019). "Surprise electoral win leaves far-Right populists scrambling to fill seats". The Telegraph. Retrieved 26 March 2019.
^ Schaart, Eline (20 March 2019). "Far-right populists score stunning win in Dutch provincial vote". Politico. Retrieved 26 March 2019.
^ Tierolf, Bas; Drost, Lisanne; van Kapel, Maaike (December 2018). Zevende rapportage racisme, antisemitisme en extreemrechts geweld in Nederland (PDF) (Report) (in Dutch). Verwey-Jonker Instituut. p. 35. ISBN 978-90-5830-912-9. Retrieved 22 April 2019.
^ "Dutch far-right politician supports Trump's action against "left wing extremism"". NL Times.

[Al_Jazeera-1] Fallon, Katy (25 March 2019). "Forum voor Democratie: Why has the Dutch far right surged?". Al Jazeera. Retrieved 26 March 2019.

[The_Telegraph-2] Boztas, Senay (23 March 2019). "Surprise electoral win leaves far-Right populists scrambling to fill seats". The Telegraph. Retrieved 26 March 2019.

[Politico-3] Schaart, Eline (20 March 2019). "Far-right populists score stunning win in Dutch provincial vote". Politico. Retrieved 26 March 2019.

[report_Verwey-Jonker-4] Tierolf, Bas; Drost, Lisanne; van Kapel, Maaike (December 2018). Zevende rapportage racisme, antisemitisme en extreemrechts geweld in Nederland (PDF) (Report) (in Dutch). Verwey-Jonker Instituut. p. 35. ISBN 978-90-5830-912-9. Retrieved 22 April 2019.

[nltimes.nl-5] "Dutch far-right politician supports Trump's action against "left wing extremism"". NL Times.

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 Shouldn't we insert "Russophilia" into the infobox's ideology section? This party is fully pro-russian, we cannot even say they're neutral. Other wiki pages like the Slovakian party SMER's, are already have it. [[User:Heringcápa|Heringcápa]] ([[User talk:Heringcápa|talk]]) 18:05, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
+:I agree with this, Baudet and FvD have gone on record as to praising Russia and Vladimir Putin several times over the past few years. [[User:AbraxasAbominog|AbraxasAbominog]] ([[User talk:AbraxasAbominog|talk]]) 15:12, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
 == position and sources ==