User talk:Anastrophe

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edit summaries

Can you instead help me to make sure that I have the edit summary thing working properly? I do not have that working, though I got the archive figured out. User:Iljhgtn/MyEditSummaries.js - Wikipedia Iljhgtn (talk) 18:50, 18 February 2024 (UTC)

If you visit your 'common.js' file - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Iljhgtn/common.js - it shows that you have both the non-existent/misnamed version, and the correct version (along with a script I'm unfamiliar with above them):

importScript('User:Iljhgtn/MyDefaultsummaries.js');

importScript('User:Iljhgtn/MyEditSummaries.js'); // Backlink: User:Iljhgtn/MyEditSummaries.js

You'll want to remove the entire MyDefaultsummaries.js line. That may be the problem. Also be sure to bypass the browser's cache - there's a wikilink on the page with instructions. cheers. anastrophe, an editor he is. 19:22, 18 February 2024 (UTC)

i just removed that line. i still do not see it working. Iljhgtn (talk) 20:17, 18 February 2024 (UTC)

I have about an hour of free time right now. if you happen to be free right now i can try and finally fix this and then not need to bother you about this ever again. :) Iljhgtn (talk) 20:20, 18 February 2024 (UTC)

I added your script to my own common.js, and it works fine for me. Have you forcefully refreshed your browser cache as directed - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bypass_your_cache ?

cheers. anastrophe, an editor he is. 20:51, 18 February 2024 (UTC)

just tried that too. cleared my cache for "all time" and it still does not show me the options that i manually selected to be included in the drop-down selection for me. Iljhgtn (talk) 23:50, 18 February 2024 (UTC)

One peculiar thing I notice, which I can't rightly explain, is that on your common.js page, if I clicked on 'Manage User Scripts' link, even though the script was not commented out (The "//" at the beginning of the line which disables it), it showed as disabled. If you toggle the script to enabled, it appears that 'fixes' it. I don't understand why that would be the case. Note also that I am able to perform that toggle, on your common.js file - so it's worth keeping in mind that even though it's your file, others can edit it, which is troubling, to say the least. Let me know if it now works.. cheers. anastrophe, an editor he is. 00:33, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

is that normally locked down so that others cannot edit it? Iljhgtn (talk) 15:21, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

I just tried it again, and nothing seems to have changed. Iljhgtn (talk) 15:30, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

The script thing says "cannot install" by the way on that page. Should that concern me? Iljhgtn (talk) 15:39, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

Can you please share the link to YOUR own common.js page that does this working? I will check line by line so that I can get this to execute properly. Perhaps with the right code this will work for me. Thank you very much! Iljhgtn (talk) 17:11, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

The path is the same as mine, except that it's under my userid; it's the same for everyone -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Anastrophe/common.js.

I would assume that it should be locked down, but apparently it isn't. You're welcome to try adding something to mine and saving it, and we'll see if it's global. Note that my common.js has the line to your MyEditSummaries.js in it - except that it's 'commented out' with the two "//" at the beginning of the line. The common.js file cannot be uninstalled as every account has to have it. I just had a look at your common.js and it was showing that MyEditSummaries.js was disabled - a line through it. cheers. anastrophe, an editor he is. 18:53, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

Actually now it doesn't even list MyEditSummaries.js under manage scripts. I've no idea what's going on there, perhaps remove the entire contents of common.js, save, then add it back? Not much of this is making sense at this point. Probably need help from folks who actually work on such scripts, but I have no idea offhand where one might find them here on WP. cheers. anastrophe, an editor he is. 18:57, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

And I also see that your common.js does show 'install' up at the top. I'll poke around (wikipedia, not your stuff) and see if there's better/more info somewhere here. cheers. anastrophe, an editor he is. 18:59, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for this. I hope to have this completely solved either today or tomorrow. I have held back from editing on any other pages mostly until I get this resolved so that I do not risk annoying anyone else with the "potted" edit summaries. Iljhgtn (talk) 19:13, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

Well, I haven't found any help, but I discovered a few things. First, when I was editing your common.js, the system was lying to me - because your common.js is not my common.js, it viewed it as just another script; thus, when I viewed your common.js, it would offer the ability to 'install' it. If i did that, on your common.js page, it would add it to my common.js, adding "importScript('User:Iljhgtn/common.js');" to my list. So that explains that - I can't really edit your common.js.

If you go to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Iljhgtn/common.js and click 'manage scripts', what does it list under 'common (applies to all skins)'? cheers. anastrophe, an editor he is. 20:10, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

"User:Iljhgtn/MyEditSummaries.js (Uninstall | Disable)" Iljhgtn (talk) 20:44, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

and if you toggle 'Disable' to 'Enable' then back again, refresh the page, then try editing a random article, does it make any difference? cheers. anastrophe, an editor he is. 20:49, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

Tried that now. It is still showing me, "Spelling/grammar/punctuation/typographical correction"... instead of "spelling", "grammar", "punctuation", and "typo" as broken out and separate drop-down options. Those are the primary four new fields that I want as separate new fields if we can make this work! Iljhgtn (talk) 20:54, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

That suggests that you still have the main script enabled under 'gadgets'. Please check, it may be overriding your own script. cheers. anastrophe, an editor he is. 20:56, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

OH I DO!!! WAS I SUPPOSED TO TURN THAT OFF??? Iljhgtn (talk) 21:05, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

Sorry that was not anger, that was excitement. Iljhgtn (talk) 21:05, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

IT WORKS NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks a lot!!! That is all that I needed. One week later, we got it solved. Iljhgtn (talk) 21:06, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

More than anything, that's my fault, for not including that in my instructions, which were, as I believe I described them "a dog's breakfast" (in other words, garbage!) cheers. anastrophe, an editor he is. 21:07, 19 February 2024 (UTC)