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Meatfluencers

Hi everyone! I added a "meatfluencers" section to this High Protein Diet page and would appreciate some feedback. I look forward to collaborating! Lvogel1 (talk) 12:54, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

None of those sources were medical reviews. Please take a look at WP:Fringe and WP:MEDRS. Psychologist Guy (talk) 14:36, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @Psychologist Guy, that is true, but this trend is an interesting event in the history of the diet, for which there are some notable sources. (Is there policy that articles about diet must strictly be about their medical standing?) I think a history section, with this content, could be useful. (Disclosure: I am @Lvogel1's teacher.) Reagle (talk) 13:10, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The sourcing was unreliable. This is Boston's NPR News Station [1]. This was a cooking website called Bon Appétit [2]. The text added to the Wikipedia article quoted "producer Ben Brock Johnson", he is not a dietitian or physician. Why would we quote a producer? This is an opinion paper written by a well known carnivore diet advocate [3], this paper has been cited many times on Wikipedia by carnivore advocates, it fails WP:MEDRS and is always removed. The other source (source 14) was not linked to, I am guessing it was this source from The Telegraph [4]. There is also the issue of WP:OR, only one of those sources claimed the carnivore diet is a high-protein diet. The others did not use that terminology. The article in The Telegraph can be used but it doesn't specifically say the carnivore is a type of high-protein diet, you can read the full article here [5]. As stated this runs into the issue of WP:OR. In conclusion there are too many issues here. If we are not going to be citing medical reviews, we should at least be citing medical experts or qualified dietitians. We already have an article on the carnivore diet which does not describe it as a high-protein diet. If The Telegraph is to be added it might be better there. Psychologist Guy (talk) 13:52, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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 :None of those sources were medical reviews. Please take a look at [[WP:Fringe]] and [[WP:MEDRS]]. [[User:Psychologist Guy|Psychologist Guy]] ([[User talk:Psychologist Guy|talk]]) 14:36, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
 ::Hello @[[User:Psychologist Guy|Psychologist Guy]], that is true, but this trend is an interesting event in the history of the diet, for which there are some notable sources. (Is there policy that articles about diet must strictly be about their medical standing?) I think a history section, with this content, could be useful. (Disclosure: I am @[[User:Lvogel1|Lvogel1]]'s teacher.) [[User:Reagle|Reagle]] ([[User talk:Reagle|talk]]) 13:10, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
+:::The sourcing was unreliable. This is Boston's NPR News Station [https://www.wbur.org/endlessthread/2024/01/19/meat-carnivore-diet]. This was a cooking website called Bon Appétit [https://www.bonappetit.com/story/carnivore-diet-lion-diet-animal-based-diet]. The text added to the Wikipedia article quoted "producer Ben Brock Johnson", he is not a dietitian or physician. Why would we quote a producer? This is an opinion paper written by a well known carnivore diet advocate  [https://journals.lww.com/co-endocrinology/abstract/2020/10000/can_a_carnivore_diet_provide_all_essential.11.aspx], this paper has been cited many times on Wikipedia by carnivore advocates, it fails WP:MEDRS and is always removed. The other source (source 14) was not linked to, I am guessing it was this source from ''The Telegraph'' [https://www.telegraph.co.uk/health-fitness/diet/weight-loss/the-rise-of-the-carnivore-diet/]. There is also the issue of [[WP:OR]], only one of those sources claimed the carnivore diet is a high-protein diet. The others did not use that terminology. The article in ''The Telegraph'' can be used but it doesn't specifically say the carnivore is a type of high-protein diet, you can read the full article here [https://archive.is/scLjT]. As stated this runs into the issue of WP:OR. In conclusion there are too many issues here. If we are not going to be citing medical reviews, we should at least be citing medical experts or qualified dietitians. We already have an article on the [[carnivore diet]] which does not describe it as a high-protein diet. If ''The Telegraph'' is to be added it might be better there. [[User:Psychologist Guy|Psychologist Guy]] ([[User talk:Psychologist Guy|talk]]) 13:52, 18 March 2024 (UTC)