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Military of Mycenaean Greece has been listed as one of the Warfare good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Review: June 25, 2016. (Reviewed version).

A fact from Military of Mycenaean Greece appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 4 December 2015 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that in the armies of Mycenaean Greece, chariots were initially used as fighting vehicles, but by the 13th century BC their role was probably limited to battlefield transport?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2015/December. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Military of Mycenaean Greece.

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G'day, nice work with this article. Unfortunately, I don't know enough about the topic to complete the GA review, but one suggestion I have is to expand the section on ships, as it seems quite light on the details. Is there any more that could be said about the topic. For instance, what were they used for, how long were they, how much did they displace, how were they constructed etc? Anyway, good luck with taking the article further. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 05:06, 23 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Doesn't meet GA standards

@GAR coordinators: This article does not meet GA standards because of issues with sourcing as well as plagiarism.

Large amounts of the text are based on Osprey's "Bronze Age Greek Warrior" which was referred to as "garbage" and a "source of misinformation" in this article by someone who wrote a recent PhD on Ancient Greek military history.

The article text does not accurately reflect the cited source. I've fixed the instances I found, but there are surely more.

Other text is plagiarized. To give just one example, the article says Boar's tusk helmets consisted of a felt-lined leather cap, with several rows of cut boar's tusk sewn onto it. where the source says It consisted of a felt-lined leather cap, with several rows of cut boar’s tusk sewn onto it.

So I think this is clearly not a GA. Botterweg14 (talk) 01:29, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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 ==Suggestion==
 G'day, nice work with this article. Unfortunately, I don't know enough about the topic to complete the GA review, but one suggestion I have is to expand the section on ships, as it seems quite light on the details. Is there any more that could be said about the topic. For instance, what were they used for, how long were they, how much did they displace, how were they constructed etc? Anyway, good luck with taking the article further. Regards, [[User:AustralianRupert|AustralianRupert]] ([[User talk:AustralianRupert|talk]]) 05:06, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
+== Doesn't meet GA standards ==
+{{@GAR}} This article does not meet GA standards because of issues with sourcing as well as plagiarism.
+* Large amounts of the text are based on Osprey's "Bronze Age Greek Warrior" which was referred to as "garbage" and a "source of misinformation" in [https://www.ancientworldmagazine.com/articles/sources-disinformation-bad-reconstructions/ this article] by someone who wrote a recent PhD on Ancient Greek military history.
+* The article text does not accurately reflect the cited source. I've fixed the instances I found, but there are surely more.
+* Other text is plagiarized. To give just one example, the article says {{tq|Boar's tusk helmets consisted of a felt-lined leather cap, with several rows of cut boar's tusk sewn onto it.|q=yes}} where the source says {{tq|It consisted of a felt-lined leather cap, with several rows of cut boar’s tusk sewn onto it.|q=yes}}
+So I think this is clearly not a GA. [[User:Botterweg14|<span style="font-family:Baskerville;color:indigo">Botterweg14</span>]][[User talk:Botterweg14|<span style="font-family:Baskerville;color:indigo"> (talk)</span>]] 01:29, 24 March 2024 (UTC)