Talk:Minutes to Midnight (Linkin Park album)

Trials and Tribulations and "QWERTY"

The name of the new CD has no where been confirmed to be Trials and Tribulations, that was just what the interviewer guessed, so people need to stop putting that it is the official title. Also "QWERTY" has not been confirmed as "Lies", "Behind Your Lies", or anything else, as far as I know of. It may not even be on the final cut of the album, so until someone can link a source that says otherwise, "QWERTY" is still "QWERTY".WIKI-GUY-16, 9 December(UTC)

"QWERTY" is "QWERTY", and it will not be on the album [1] --SayCheese 14:52, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Not on the album? WAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! They gotta reconsider that! U-Mos 20:07, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Umm, what I heard is that the new album title is called The Morning After but that could be false. I just got a new single called "Giving In" and its from Linkin Park, so im really not sure. (Bishop 00:23, 7 January 2007 (UTC))

"The Morning After" is the title of a song that Chester performed in 2001 and is not going to be the name of the album. "Giving In" is a song by Adema and has been mistakingly credited as Linkin Park for years. --SayCheese 06:15, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

"Giving In" features Chester on vocals Agentsmith_1111

SayCheese, the title of the album could be The Morning After. But no one has confirmed nor denied it. It remains a possibility. It is a song of Chester's, but so many albums have names that also the name is from a song.RichV 22:20, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

It could be The Morning After, it could be *anything*. However, it is highly doubtful that The Morning After is going to be the album name since 1) As I said before, it is already a name of a song that Chester wrote which is also notably not a Linkin Park song because only Chester wrote and performed it and 2) "The Morning After" has been confirmed as a song on Chester's solo album. --SayCheese 22:36, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Funny how instead of Trials and Tribulations (T and T) its Minutes to Midnight (M to M). -- Riffsyphon1024 04:20, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Or they think something like : MinuTes to MidnighT —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 008xtreme (talk • contribs) 09:39, 13 March 2007 (UTC).

QWERTY is actually part of the linkin park underground albums. erm LPU 0.6 i think, and therefore it has already been released, hence the reason it came out like 6 months ago. And QWERTY is the same as LP's old sound (wich in my opinion was very good, and should really be changed) but yer the single What i've done is very good, and hopefully the rest fo the album will be like it. --168.224.1.14 12:15, 4 April 2007 (UTC)Phill

T and T

Was it really necessary to change the article to T and T? It would be more appropriate to keep it as Linkin Park's third studio album and then when the entire title is released change it to the name. --SayCheese 02:05, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

I'd rather propose to cancel this article. Maybe their third studio album will be never released. --Baxtaba 11:30, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

u_u ... now someone changed the start of the article to read "T_____ and T________ is an upcoming album by Linkin Park. The record, whose title is currently provvisory, is set for a February 2007 release."--R-Tiztik 20:58, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

And now you see why we don't change an album article's title until the title is confirmed. T and T isn't even close to Minutes to Midnight. Hello2112 22:28, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

This talk page is whack, who said "QWERTY" isn't gonna be on the album, they never confirmed or denied it. And of course the albums gonna be released....unless they all die... APACOlypse27 02:44, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

"QWERTY" is not going to be on the album. "The six-track EP features two songs from the band's current studio session for their upcoming album and some unreleased live tracks. "Over the last year we have written so many new songs and really wanted to give some of the early ideas to our hardcore fans that will not be on the new album," said LP's Rob Bourdon. "Other tracks include a live version of an old track from back when our band was called XERO, and some special live tracks we played at the Japan shows this past August."[2] --SayCheese 11:47, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Release date

What happened to the February 20, 2007 release date? Was it not true?--R-Tiztik 17:55, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Linkin Park's third studio album is set for a April 2007 release. The vocals have been confirmed as completed and the album will be 100% and in the bands hands sometime in January. A video will be filmed shortly after and the video will hit the airwaves in February. The title has yet to be announced.

OFFICIAL —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.45.201.68 (talk) 16:37, 24 December 2006 (UTC).

Please don't edit the page with that information until you have a website source which proves it. As of right now, the band has only said that they are almost done with vocals and that the album will be released in the spring. --SayCheese 19:48, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

No it wasn't true. March/April seems to be the most likely date, but knowing Linkin Park, it probably won't come out until June/July. They did that to us with Collision Course. Supposed to come out in Autumn (Fall for you Yanks), came out beginning of December. Bane II 11:45, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Who added June 26, 2007 as the release date, and whoever it is, please provide proof from a reliable source. Hello2112 01:07, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Uh, since when did "us Yanks" not understand what 'Autumn' meant? I mean sure, I'd wager it's not used as often as 'Fall' here, but it's still a VERY common word. --Foot Dragoon 04:59, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

June 26th is speculation that carried over from the LPU and should not be on this article.--SayCheese 02:08, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

LPfuse says on the LPU newsletter that the album will be released on the 15th for the USA and the 14th to everyone eles? (Sizedude 20:17, 6 March 2007 (UTC))

Summer release

Is there really any link or evidence that the album is going to be released in the summer? In the LPU chat Rob said that it would be released by the summertime and that is the only reference I've seen to summer. Unless there is some sort of source I think it needs to be changed to what it was before, and that is spring. --SayCheese 20:29, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

I'm ticked now first they say Summer 06 then Fall 06 then Febuary 07 then March and now Summer. Just pick 18 songs and put the rest in under ground CD's.Sam ov the blue sand 23:10, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

It'll be released in the summer see, Linkin Park: "They really are reinventing themselves," Rubin said of the band, mixing now for a summer release. "It doesn't sound like rap-rock. There's very strong songwriting. I've heard guys in the band say that it transcends everything they've done before, like it puts them in a whole different light in their minds, and they really like that. It's very melodic. It's a progressive record." [3]

Utopian12 04:22, 16 February 2007 (UTC) Utopian12

Some articles say summer, some say spring[4]. It's only definite once the band actually sets a date. --SayCheese 04:38, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Don't you wanna understand that their third studio album will be NEVER released? The truth is that they won't release another record until they disbanded. Rick Rubin probably knows it. --Chargin' Chuck 21:35, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

What were you saying? -- Riffsyphon1024 04:20, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Now I wish this wasn't a lie. --Chargin' Chuck 22:32, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Release date pattern?

What is this supposed to be? Does anyone object to deleting this section? It seems like complete original research to me, not to mention you can't determine patterns from just two dates. bob rulz 22:21, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

How about putting an infamous TBA? Catatonic89 23:27, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

I'm just gonna delete the section. A release date hasn't been announced. The section is unencyclopedic and original research anyway. bob rulz 04:03, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

It has been officially announced as 14th May outside the USA and Canada, and the 15th May in USA and Canada.--Au revoir!008xtreme 19:38, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Working Titles

Uhh, duz working titles mean working album names or working track namez, thanx - NJ Rock

Track names RichV 22:13, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanx man :) - NJ Rock

Album cover

Why is the new logo serving as the album cover? There's been no confirmation of it. Hello2112 18:46, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

This is true which is why I'm going to take it off. It seems that people are getting ahead of themselves and can't wait for an actual cover to be released. --SayCheese 18:51, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

• slaps self* Now, why is the splash page serving as the album cover? It's quite likely but it's not confirmed, and Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. Hello2112 16:45, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Found this picture on the Warner Bros Record website an hour ago but as now been taken down so I'm guessing it is fake or just someone who runs the website messing about. http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/8807/warnermtmltdty7.jpg

Look at the bands default myspace photo - a minutes to midnight album cover! use it! 81.79.40.253 18:13, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

k, we've got the official album cover. No changing it. Unusually simple for LP. Hello2112 19:22, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Leak

1. "Stand!"
2. "Bleed It Out"
3. "Get Through"
4. "What I've Done"
5. "In This World"
6. "The Little Things Give You Away"
7. "Hold Nothing Back"
8. "Over the Top"
9. "Promisee"
10. "Real Life"
11. "Afraid This Time"
12. "2.World"
13. "Until the End"
14. "Collapsing the Unit"
15. "We Use the Pain"
16. "One Perfect Something"
17. "No Way" (Bonus Track)
18. "Feel" (Demo '01) (Bonus track)
19. "Screaming at Space" (Bonus track)
20. "Qwerty" (Live at Summer Sonic '06) (Bonus track)

I found this in the internet. Any information? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Fobluis (talk • contribs) 01:09, 13 March 2007 (UTC).

Supposedly they're all just Grey Daze songs. We'll have to wait a bit longer to find out for sure. R-Tiztik 02:33, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

It's not legitimate, all the songs are by various bands and falsely titled. R-Tiztik 02:46, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

No, I have the album. Those are the tracks, just that they need some finishing touches. Re-edited the list, don't freak out out when you see "Promisse", that's the way it is written on the back of the case...

And yet this same track listing is going around torrent sites with fake leaks? It's not the album, the band hasn't confirmed any song names other than are what is named on the article.--SayCheese 18:17, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

I don't understand... it's 18th March already, why isn't there a picture with the album and the back of the case, so we can be sure of the tracklist and everything else? (edit: I never knew the months in their order... messed up May with March... my bad :| )

Anonymous user, you seem to think the album is already out and, even worse, that you own it. Are you insane? U-Mos 18:43, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

My bad... it's not officially out, I agree. But you can get it if you really want to. And all legal. But that's not the point. We should be talking about how I got the album or not, just that that's the track list of the album... I could give you even more info... Anyhow, I'm not doing any changes until you guys agree it should be on the article, even as a leak... be glad I didn't do like that guy from the LP forums... didn't understand the album not having a cover and he edited the Iron Maiden cover to look like an LP one and posted it there... RafaelDK

It's pretty unlikely that you have an album that hasn't even been leaked yet.

I really kinda doubt you have the real album. And there's no way you can get it legally. GrahameS 00:36, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

If this is the real track listing then why don't "When My Time Comes" or "Leave Out All the Rest" appear there when LP confirmed its inclusion? I agree that this sounds like bullshit.. We won't see a legitimate leak of the album any earlier then early-May, if that. R-Tiztik 20:10, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

QWERTY was one of the songs that LP specifically said would NOT make it onto the album. i'm assuming this is the fake leak list that was floating around a while back. it's definitely fake. FyreNWater 08:32, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

And this is now 100% fake, according to CD WOW (which i'm not saying is completely credible, but it's an online CD store as opposed to one person), which has the tracklist you see in the article. Hello2112 21:00, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Any supposed "leaked" album is false. Atleast till at bare minimal May 14th. I should say for legal reasons that I do not condone the downloading of any albums either. As for the above "leaked" track listing, it is erroneous. Evilgohan2 17:41, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Why at least May 14? I've seen albums leak 3 weeks before their release, even an instance of 5 weeks. You can't just speculate when a record will leak cuz there are even times when they don't leak at all (and from the security I've heard the band are putting on this album, I can't say it will). Normally I'd say the day before release is a little uncanny, but I question whether or not this record will leak at all. I'm not gonna encourage piracy here but even if it leaked and *everybody* downloaded it, the album would still go 2x platinum. Linkin Park have that little musical charisma haha. R-Tiztik 19:02, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

I say May 14th because that is the worldwide release and at that point, it is pretty much 99.99% Gaurenteed that someone out in the world will have stuck it into their optical drive and ripped the CD. Atleast you know on May 14th that the CD is out and you have a higher chance of getting the correct songs. Now once again, I should say for legal reasons that I do not condone the downloading of any albums. Evilgohan2 20:21, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Semi-protection

Whoever semi-protected the article just did a HUGE favor to the active contributors of this page who actually don't add crap. Thanks! R-Tiztik 22:09, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

On a similar note, to whoever CAN edit the article should take out a bit of the fine print at the bottom of the tracklisting, as it has basically been confirmed on LP's official Pre-Order page at Bandmerch.com. Source: http://bandmerch.com/java2/BandMerch/linkinparkexclusive/?referrer=&content=/store/css5/ProductPage.jsp&product=2887 - Anonymous

On the tracklisting, a user with the authority to edit the article added this

"This track listing is, as of yet, unconfirmed by the band themselves."

Can anybody who has the power to edit the page remove that sentence please? That tracklisting is the one that appeared on US iTunes store (I don't think they'd screw that up) and the link at the top (http://lptimes.com/news2007/april/news04042007.html), is an extract from Kerrang with the band members discussing these tracks. So, it's pretty fair to say that the tracks HAVE indeed been confirmed by the band members themselves. Please edit.

I don't understand why whoever it was added that it was unconfirmed, but I've removed it. Thanks for noticing. R-Tiztik 00:06, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

i requested the protection because of the repeated street team referral links; why did you revert the itunes bonus tracks and the passive phrasing for where you could read the descriptions of the tracks? it seems to fit better with the rest of wp as passive, rather than by somewhat breaking the fourth wall. Impasse 03:36, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

That's a good point. I've tweaked the text above the tracks where the link to descriptions is provided so that it represents the neutrality of Wikipedia. As for the placing mention of the iTunes bonus tracks in small text under the track listing? The titles haven't been revealed yet so there's no use in adding it directly to the track list. When the titles have been revealed they can be combined to the track list (also when a valuable source is provided, seeing as how people thought it would be funny to vandalize the bonus track titles, when the 2 tracks were directly part of the track listing). R-Tiztik 06:09, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

For that matter, I added a citation needed tag to that little tid-bit. Also, can someone tell me what is the importance of April 19th, 2007? If there is no significant importance of this date, then why not extend it till say... between May 8th and May 14th? Evilgohan2 17:38, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Parental Advisory

Nice to see this, not because I wanna hear them swear all the time but because when you listen to there albums and then hear them live its like two different bands, there albums make them too child friendly and P.C but live you hear the true them, so I'm glad this album is getting away from the friendly radio and Mtv style bullshit. Aa-Lewis 7 April 2007

Wikipedia is not a forum. 68.13.147.241 23:50, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Crack that whip, mr. 68.13.147.241. :p Exigence 20:31, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

AOL Review

When did AOL review Minutes to Midnight? Unless there is a link to verify this the starred review needs to be taken off. --SayCheese 23:59, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Probably came from this review of What I've Done. ErleGrey 00:19, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

That is the average user rating so it really doesn't count. --SayCheese 03:48, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

How can users rate the album? It isn't out nor has it leaked hahahaha. It's just silly. R-Tiztik 04:14, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Trivia section

This is not the first time Mike will sing lead vocals.

Songs such as; Step Up, High Voltage, Dedicated, It's Going Down feature Mike having the role of being the lead vocalist.

Please edit that statement in the trivia section as it is false. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 58.108.224.122 (talk) 07:54, 11 April 2007 (UTC).

Edit it yourself. Why can't you do it?--DannyBoy7783 08:30, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

The page is protected. Unregistered/Newly registered user can't edit the page. R-Tiztik 13:13, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Note the key word SINGS. This won't be the first time he's a lead vocal (rap-wise), but it WILL be his first time SINGING vocals.