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NPOV

The note included with reference #4

According to police and the media, the numbers were about a tenth as many. Extreme left groups are notorious for grossly inflating the numbers in attendance at their rallies.

could just as well be

According to police and the media, who are notorious for grossly lying about the views and activities of radical left groups, the numbers were about a tenth as many.

A neutral point of view would just convey the (unsourced but presumably factual) information:

According to police and the media, the numbers were about a tenth as many.

8.44.146.165 (talk) 07:58, 2 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

ANSWER is (just) an "antiwar and civil rights organization"?

> an umbrella group consisting of many antiwar and civil rights organizations.

Isnt it problematic that this description a little too bland? The NAACP or SPLC is a civil rights organization.

Their founding members belonged to the Marxist-Leninist Workers World Party (WWP) and most if not all of WWP's ideological tenets are mirrored by ANSWER.

ANSWER is: pro-Iran, pro-Yemen (ie, Houthi), pro-Venezuela, pro-Daniel Ortega of Nicaragua.

They are pro-North Korea. They eschew "US imperialism" in South Korea, ignoring Chinese/Russian imperialism in North Korea, blithely ignoring that, without US intervention, the entire Korean peninsula would be a Kim-dynasty dictatorship instead of the current status quo. eg, they cover "Kim Jong-un’s New Year Address and the Prospect for Peace" and talk wistfully about "unification" (under a North Korean regime).

They are anti-Ukraine (they are "anti-war" yet they are strangely silent on PUTIN's war on Ukraine, starting the war, continuing the war, aggressively taking territory by means of war).

They are anti-NATO. Their stance is word-for-word that of Russia's, decrying how menacing NATO is while ignoring Russia's invading and annexing: Ukraine's Crimea, Georgia's Abhazia, Georgia's South Ossetia, eastern provinces of Ukraine proper.

This organization has the look and feel of a pro-Russia front group. All foreign policy initiatives of Russia are suspiciously promoted. No criticism at all of Russia (or its proxies) are present.

Much like the Comintern appropriated far-left topics of civil rights, immigrant rights, and unions, while liberally injecting pro-USSR/Communist ideology, ANSWER of today appears to use similar techniques.

ANSWER is not simply "an umbrella group of antiwar and civil rights organizations."

A useful starting point: https://www.influencewatch.org/non-profit/answer-coalition/ Petzl (talk) 14:16, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]