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Question from Ultradiamiondchicken (22:51, 22 March 2024)

Hello how are you? I've been struggling on how to create a article so can you please explain how to make a article. FYI:I am on Ipad --Ultradiamiondchicken (talk) 22:51, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

@Ultradiamiondchicken What are you trying to write an article about? CaptainEek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 02:17, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

@CaptainEek about a type of chicken Ultradiamiondchicken (talk) 15:41, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

@Ultradiamiondchicken Well if it's the thing you've written on your user page, that doesn't sound like a real thing. Wikipedia only covers topics which have received significant coverage in reliable sources, thus establishing their notability. CaptainEek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 23:52, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

Questions, request for help and advice

Greetings, CaptainEek. First of all, my apologies for bothering you but I seem to have found myself in a situation where I need some advice, and possibly some help.

Recently, after the Portuguese elections, I noticed that some of the Portuguese parties here on Wikipedia had their political "position" either incorrect or unnecessarily vague (from x to y, for example). Since it was a small quick fix, I edited the aforementioned information and left at that. Full disclosure, I'm aware I should've sourced the information, but what was there before was also unsourced. I admit my fault on that point, in fact, I reverted the edit myself on this page:

Portuguese Labour Party

For further context, I've been registered on Wikipedia since August of 2010 and never had a fight with anyone. There were some content disputes, but it was all resolved in Talk pages prior to any action being used or needed, and that's always my expectation when I make a new edit.

However, out of the blue, a user called Vif12vf (and, apparently, from Norway) reverted my edit without any attempt to talk to me before, and the proceeded to go to my Talk page to accuse me of Disruption, and warn me of potential banning.

I took this personally, as I didn't act in bad faith, but was treated as I did.

In fact, all throughout Wikipedia there are warnings of "assuming good faith" before starting a fight, but this user didn't seem to care.

My second mistake here was that I reverted the reversion (essentially starting the revert war), and typed some comments that, in hindsight, I shouldn't have (implying that, because he's from Norway not Portugal, he'd have less knowledge on the topic - which may be true, but in hindsight, irrelevant), which became obvious as the user in question reverted my reversion of his reversion. In anger, I reverted it one more time.

About one hour later, I realized this wasn't going to end well, so I reverted the whole thing back to what it was before I made the original edit, and started to look at formal ways to deal with this.

I noticed that the user's reverts had a Twinkle tag, and after reading its page, it seemed to me that the user was guilty of "Abuse" as described on Twinkle page. So I dug deeper and, after confronting the user on his Talk page, I noticed that other users were also complaining of these spontaneous reverts without any type of prior communication.

Since then, I tried to ask for advice on the Administrators' noticeboard, but someone called Nate decided to change my request for information/advice into a full-fledged report.

Unfortunately, this whole situation is tiring, and I just want it to be over. So here is where I need your help understanding how to move on from this:

1 - my comments, which I regret, are still visible in the View History page. Is this a case where Oversight can be used to remove what I said (as it can be perceived as an attack on the other user)?

2 - is Vif12vf use of Twinkle in the way he's doing (or his reverts in general) acceptable or is it abuse?

3 - finally, what would you advise me to do at this point?

Sorry for the length of this question/request. Thank you in advance for your input. Raven-14 (talk) 05:51, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

@Raven-14

1. Your comments are quite mild, so do not qualify for oversight, nor would they qualify for revision deletion. I think your admission here that you regret them, along with an understanding that you will move past them, should be sufficient. Don't worry, I have some gaffes of mine still out there too, you live and you learn :)
2. His reversion of you on Portuguese labor party was appropriate. You changed the party's affiliation without providing a reliable source to back up the change. Twinkle is a semi-automated tool which helps with making certain edits faster. The Twinkle warning that you got on your page was boilerplate; while I would advise User:Vif12vf to be careful about dispensing the nastily worded boiler plate and consider giving customized feedback wherever possible, he was within his rights to give you that warning. I'm sorry this got so far without someone just sitting down and explaining this to you in layman's terms.
3. I'd treat this a learning experience. Every editor has some bumps along the way. I did plenty of dumb things before I got elected to adminship; its part of the process. If you want to make changes to pages like say changing what a party's politics are, you'll need to familiarize yourself with using reliable sources, and making and using citations appropriately. I.e., to say that the Portuguese labor party is left-wing, you'll need a reliable source which says as much. If you have questions on how to go about that, let me know and I can give more guidance.

CaptainEek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 06:18, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

Hello again.

First of all, thank you for the reply, and for the calm, non-aggressive, way you responded - was refreshing, especially after the way most users talked to me recently.

I understand your response and I agree, the only thing left to do is just move on.

I appreciate your offer of helping me out become a better Wikipedia editor but, after some thought, I realize it's best if I just quit altogether. If you check my profile you'll se that, even though I'm registered since 2010, I only got my "100 edits" badge in 2024 - that means I was never a regular editor to begin with.

So my remaining question is, can you help me with a courtesy vanish?

And do I have to logout first for it to take effect? I'm asking because I don't want to accidentally log back in after it's done.

Thank you. Raven-14 (talk) 00:58, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

@Raven-14 I think vanishing would be extreme and not warranted by the circumstances. I know it's not fun to have this kind of stuff happen, but you didn't get banned or pick up any sanctions, so that's a win in my book (along the lines of "any landing you can walk away from is a good landing"). And remember, if you edit after vanishing, people could still be able to link you to your previous account, since the process isn't foolproof. You seem like a valuable and interesting fellow, and I hope you stick around and keep editing. CaptainEek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 01:21, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

I appreciate your kind words but, as I said, I thought about it and I'm sure of it.

In fact, if I did get a ban or sanction (as you say), then I wouldn't be able to ask for a courtesy vanish, would I? It's best to take the opportunity while the account is in good standing.

To further your analogy, I walked away from this landing, yes, but that doesn't mean I want to ever get inside a plane again.

I understand it's not foolproof as a complete account deletion doesn't seem to be possible, but from what I've been reading around, a courtesy vanish is the closest a member can be of being gone for good - and it's only a risk if I tried to return, which I'm 100% certain I won't.

As I said, in fourteen years, I only made around one hundred edits... there's zero risk of me coming back. Not on this account, or any other.

I take it from your words that being logged in isn't the problem, it's just if I do any edits (replying in your Talk page counts, I believe). So it's fine, I'll wait for your confirmation of it being done, and log out afterwards.

Please.

And thank you. Raven-14 (talk) 02:12, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

@Raven-14 I don't feel comfortable vanishing you. You can try asking someone else. I'm sorry to see you go. CaptainEek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 02:21, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

Question from Victor2903hw (19:39, 27 March 2024)

Do I get paid for editing --Victor2903hw (talk) 19:39, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

@Victor2903hw No. Wikipedia editing is a volunteer project. Folks edit because they want to and like the subjects they write about :) If anyone does pay you to edit, you have to disclose that per WP:PAID. CaptainEek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 19:44, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

My instinct

is like your instinct. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:16, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

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Regarding your arbitrary accusation

You are telling me that I am a bad fit for the project. This is actually a very serious accusation almost pretty much like wanting me out of the project. As such, I don't thjnk it is anywhere near fair or objective or appropriate for an arbitrator to base such accusation in one diff of my dispute with an admin without even conducting an objective analysis of my overall editing history, which would show many instances where I am receptive and even seek out objective criticism. Sincerely, Thinker78 (talk) 00:58, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

@Thinker78 For starters, I clarified that my comments were made outside my role as an admin or arbitrator. Second, yes, a WP:BOOMERANG implies that action be taken against filers. Does that mean you should be banned? Hopefully not. Are there lesser sanctions that might help you remain a productive editor? I hope so. But your inability to take feedback is becoming an issue that is soaking up huge amounts of editor time. Third, no, I have not reviewed all ~20,000 edits you have ever made. I see that you have done much good work for the project, and that work is appreciated. But nobody is immune from sanction merely because of their past work. The community has banned people with 25 times more edits than you have. I'm not sure what you're hoping to achieve with this crusade, but you really need to listen to the chorus of people telling you that you were in the wrong. It is okay to own up to your mistakes. Wikipedia expects you to accept your mistakes, learn from them, and grow. CaptainEek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 01:21, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

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Copyediting

Hey there! I love your user page. I want to make wikipedia even better than it already is. I was wondering if the small edits I've made so far have been good (not sure if wikipedia logs what exactly what user contributed what though)

Thanks for your work here again. Megaman2003 (talk) 14:30, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

@Megaman2003 Generally looks good. With this edit to New Adventures I would caution that you need to cite to a reliable source when you add new information. Keep up the good work! CaptainEek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 22:08, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

Hello again! I want to add a picture to an article, more specifically a movie poster for a movie. What exactly do I answer when uploading to wikipedia commons about this? Megaman2003 (talk) 18:24, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

@Megaman2003 Movie posters are a bit tricky, as they are copyrighted. For us to include a movie poster requires us to do so under WP:FAIRUSE. That means that you have to upload the smallest reasonable resolution of the poster, and it can only be used very sparingly. Do not upload such a work to Commons. Instead, upload it here on Wikipedia only, so that the file stays local, thereby minimizing its use and protecting us from copyright problems. When uploading it, you need to be honest and frank: it isn't your work. Someone else made it, and someone else owns the copyright. You are using it under fair use. CaptainEek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 05:42, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

Framgate

CaptainEek, your statement that We desyssoped Fram in part for harassment is factually incorrect. Fram was desysopped by the WMF Office at the behest of Trust and Safety. Only Arbcom was given access to the (partially redacted) evidence against them, so I am not privy to the specific charges, but harassment features in the ensuing Arbcom case. Arbcom decided to vacate Fram's ban from English Wikipedia but to "[take] over the decision to remove Fram's administrator tools". There was an extensive negative response in the community to this latter decision, which despite Fram's withdrawal from their second RfA, leads me to consider your statement enough of a misstatement to request you modify it. Yngvadottir (talk) 23:11, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

@Yngvadottir That's a good point, my phrase made too many assumptions. I have clarified. CaptainEek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 23:21, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

Thank you :-) Yngvadottir (talk) 23:32, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

Question from SamaelFineArts (21:00, 8 April 2024)

Hello! I was asked to join Wikipedia to create a page for Norwegian artist Samael. So far I have only played around in the sandbox using Banksy as a template. It is much harder to create a good article than I envisioned. Seems I am unable to upload any files/artwork yet also. Any tips on how to create a good page for the digital (visual) artist called Samael? (I know there is a band with the same name, that can cause possible problems?) Are there people who could work with me on creating this page? I have the information and pictures needed, but not the know-how on how to do it properly. --SamaelFineArts (talk) 21:00, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

@SamaelFineArts It is certainly an undertaking to create a page from scratch. A few things to know: first, you will need to make sure you appropriately disclose any conflict of interest, and whether you are being WP:PAID to edit about the subject. Don't worry, disclosing won't stop you from doing so, we just want our editors to be transparent. Next, you will need to find significant coverage of Samael in reliable sources, so as to prove their notability (i.e. suitability for having a Wikipedia page in the first place). We don't write about just anyone. As for people who could work with you, you can ask questions at the WP:TEAHOUSE, as well as the Articles for Creation Help Desk, but they will not write the article for you. CaptainEek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 05:37, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

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Question from Jesspisme (17:52, 17 April 2024)

We are the creators of the P.J. Whelihans Pub + Restaurant Logo and the logo/page image that is on their page now is very old. I have an updated logo. How do i update the page image on that page? --Jesspisme (talk) 17:52, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

@Jesspisme The process is a bit complicated. First, go to Special:Upload. Upload your file. For licensing, choose "Logo." In the summary, explain who created it and what it is for. Explain that you are associated with the business. Then, post the link to the file on my page, and I'll swap it into the article for you. I advise against directly editing the article, since you have a conflict of interest and may qualify as paid editors. CaptainEek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 20:35, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

Question from Completefacts333 (18:01, 20 April 2024)

Hello, Would you please delete my account. I recently signed up but I think it’s no longer necessary.

Thanks --Completefacts333 (talk) 18:01, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

@Completefacts333 Sorry, accounts cannot be deleted. CaptainEek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 04:48, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

Question from Immaneul (09:42, 24 April 2024)

Hello, I'm immenul, can i add any information in the wikipedia according to my level of knowledge? --Immaneul (talk) 09:42, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Hi User:Immaneul and welcome to Wikipedia. Adding information on Wikipedia is a very key factor of maintaining this encyclopaedia. However, we work with sources from reliable sources (look at WP:RS—to know what we call reliable sources). Adding information you know is called original research (see WP:OR—for what we call original research). Such can be added only if it is supported by a verifiable/reliable source. I hope you're cleared now. Thanks and see the welcome message on your talk page for more tutorials. — Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 11:37, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Question from DrChunder (09:17, 26 April 2024)

Ahoy, Captain! I'm a longtime user and supporter of Wikipedia, and a mentor of mine suggested taking up editing as a way to gain in-depth understanding of a subject. If I may ask, what are some of the pitfalls young Wiki editors find themselves sliding into, and how might these be avoided?

Warm regards, DrChunder --DrChunder (talk) 09:17, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

@DrChunder Well there are a lot of potential pitfalls; I think it really depends on what you're interested in. What sort of subjects do you like? I've left a message on your talk page with some various starter links that you should peruse as well. CaptainEek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 18:39, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

@CaptainEek Thanks for the message! I study neuroscience and elementary physics, which are fields rife with bad science communication, so I'm looking for tips on vetting sources and editing for proper encyclopedic tone.

Thanks!

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Question from Mohd Ibraheem 9718 (14:15, 28 April 2024)

hey i have written article in the sandbox ? will it be uploaded to main wikipedia page ? if not how do i upload article on wikipedia page ? --Mohd Ibraheem 9718 (talk) 14:15, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

@Mohd Ibraheem 9718 Well, it looks like you've written an essay, not an article. You'll need to revise it to read like a neutral encyclopedia entry first. CaptainEek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 17:40, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

WikiCup 2024 May newsletter

The second round of the 2024 WikiCup ended on 28 April. This round was particularly competitive: each of the 32 contestants who advanced to Round 3 scored at least 141 points. This is the highest number of points required to advance to Round 3 since 2014.

The following scorers in Round 2 all scored more than 500 points:

• Sammi Brie (submissions) with 707 points, mostly from 45 good article nomination reviews and 12 good articless about radio and television;
• Generalissima (submissions) with 600 points, mostly from 12 good articles and 12 did you know nominations about coinage and history;
• SounderBruce (submissions) with 552 points, mostly from a featured article about the 2020 Seattle Sounders FC season, three featured lists, and two good articles;
• BennyOnTheLoose (submissions) with 548 points, mostly from a featured article about the snooker player John Pulman, two featured lists, and one good article;
• voorts (submissions) with 530 points, mostly from two featured articles (Well he would, wouldn't he? and Cora Agnes Benneson) and three good articles.

The full scores for Round 2 can be seen here. So far this year, competitors have gotten 18 featured articles, 22 featured lists, and 186 good articles, 76 in the news credits and at least 200 did you know credits. They have conducted 165 featured article reviews, as well as 399 good article reviews and peer reviews, and have added 21 articles to featured topics and good topics.

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