Talk:Cliff Burton

"I dream of Lars Ulrich being thrown through the bus window instead of my mistical master Cliff Burton. What the hell piece of crap cover band dare say that. I deleted this line:

Prior to the accident, Burton and lead guitarist Kirk Hammett drew cards to see who would claim Burton's bunk. Burton drew the Ace of Spades, the death card.

To me it sounds like an urban legend or a myth. Even if it's true (have a link?) it doesn't seem appropriate for a Wikipedia article. --Patik 04:26, Sep 27, 2004 (UTC) it does sound verry unbelieveable that he happened to draw the card that is a symbol of death and died...-Drrake

A few interview CDs (including one I own called X-Posed) contain Kirk himself discussing this. Here is a link for the quote. Jh51681 05:10, 30 Oct 2004 (UTC)

I also can confirm that; I saw a special on VH1 'Behind the Music' where they show a short video clip of Kirk saying words to that effect. --wisher

Everyone knows that. C'mon my friend. Thtat's been a fact straight from the band for years now. J-Dog 14:58, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

"recently published interview"

What is the

recently published interview that claims to have been conducted with Cliff Burton hours before his death

you are talking about ? May I have a link ?

Since no link or proof was provided for that article, I removed it. - Keith, evil dude

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Added the song "Enter Sandman" to the song list that Cliff Burton contributed to. Many people do not know that he put his ideas in this song since it was put on album in 1991, but it says on the CD,(Metallica AKA The Black Album) that he did infact contribute to the musical process.

Clifford Lee Burton was the greatest bass player, ever. His creativity gave Metallica their leading edge when it comes to Metal. Don't believe me... Listen to Kill 'em All, Ride The Lightning, and Master of Puppets, listen to the detail in the songs, now listen to ...And Justice for All (good album, but not as good as their first three... NOTE: They also used some riffs Cliff wrote), Load/Reload, Garage Inc, St. Anger, the list goes on. The solos from their first three albums are, well the best in Metal, or at least thrash metal. Although Cliff did not play the electric guitar, he did help write up some riffs for his former band member, Kirk Hammett. It is very obvious that he had a major impact on the greatness of Metallica. If it wasn't for Cliff, I don't think Metallica would have been as big as they were back in the 80's. *RIP* Cliff

                                                                            -Nick

re Sandman

Find a cite for it and put it back in. Anger22 21:17, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Okay

"The Album titled "...And Justice for All" has no audible bass guitar in honor of Cliff."?

So far I've seen three conflicting lines on this. "Jason has his bass turned way down," "Jason didn't show up for mixing sessions," and now "the album doesn't have bass in honor of Burton." So which is it? Mewtation 10:06, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

I've also heard, "The way in which the album was mixed didn't allow for bass". After listening to the Justice album with bass (found at [1]), I would guess it's that one.--164.106.67.158 23:44, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Why doesn't anyone acknowledge that the most likely explanation, that is that if the bassline follows a heavy distorted guitar-riff closely enough, it becomes difficult to distinguish them by ear. The bass CAN be heard clearly on One in the clean-tone sections.

W.T.F.

What's up with "I dream of Lars Ulrich being thrown through the bus window instead of my mistical master Cliff Burton?" What the hell?\

Thats wrong man. Yah. Whoever wrote that should be shot.

It's the title of a Sunn O))) cover of For Whom the Bell Tolls. Sunn likes bass. Gatesofawesome!

i kinda wish it was lars instead of cliff... i mean, lars is great, but he doesnt bring what cliff did... plenty of drummers in the sea, but only one cliff. but it is icky to wish death on anyone. so really, i wish it was a guitar that got sent through the window. that would be fun. -- Cannibalicious!

Orion at Cliff's funeral

Orion wasn't actually performed by the remainder of the band at Cliff's funeral; it was played over a stereo. Wangoed 19:43, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Bass Influences

I think that a possible influence on Burton is being overlooked, Black Sabbath's Geezer Butler.

In an interview Cliff specifically stated Steve Harris was not an influence, and also states: "Geddy Lee, Geezer Butler, uh, Stanley Clark...Uh, Jimi Hendrix and Ulrich Roth, Shankar to a little degree, Maybe Tony Iommi...also had an influence."

The page can be found here (good reading): [2]

So I'm taking off Steve Harris

Songs about Cliff

His life and tragic death have inspired many songs from bands including Megadeth, Primus, and Motörhead,...

Motörhead have never wrote (or performed) a song about Cliff. They did, however, write a tribute to the Ramones. Roda 18:01, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Also the grindcore/hardcore group The Tony Danza Tapdance Extravaganza has recorded the song "Cliff Burton Suprise" featuring a quite amazing bass work.

Motörhead did remake "Enter Sandman", just to let you know.

Style of playing

From Style of playing: "Especially during his solos, he often played on 2 or sometimes even 3 strings at once." This sounds very lame. Most guitarists and bassists play 2,3,4,5 or sometimes even 6 strings (if its a 6 string bass) at once.

If they play power-chords with a pick (like Lemmy), then yes. But bass is usually played using one string at a time. Roda 15:00, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

I have to vouch for that not being true. Pretty much any metal bass player worth their weight can play more then one string at a time, pick or not. Such as say Steve DiGiorgio —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 63.73.199.69 (talk) 20:38, 6 December 2006 (UTC).

Picture

Could someone not find a good picture of Burton to put on this article? This article could really use one. Jason Newsted's article has a picture. You could just put a bad picture if that's all you have and then we can change it later but this article really needs a picture. --Davidjustinlee 21:20, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Influence

Cliff's obsession with surreal horror writer H.P. Lovecraft gave the band a large array of album cover art. In what way has Lovecraft contributed to Metallica album covers?? --84.157.121.247 02:25, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure, but I think that the cover of Some Kind of Monster depicts some form of Ktulu. This was, of course, after his death but I believe it may have been a dedication to him. Joetheodd 07:28, 1 April 2007 (UTC)