Yes, Disney's marketing pushed '''very''' hard for this film to line with their other live-action remakes, but it would be disingenous to allow that as an argument because, like I've said before, this is just marketing, and branding doesn't change the fact that the TLK remake is still an animated movie (generously speaking, only '''one''' shot in the entire film was recorded, which was the first opening sunrise shot, and that's it!), even the box-office figure sources cited inside this article recognise that; so why can't the opening line include it? [[User:TonyZangrand|TonyZangrand]] ([[User talk:TonyZangrand|talk]]) 16:19, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
Yes, Disney's marketing pushed '''very''' hard for this film to line with their other live-action remakes, but it would be disingenous to allow that as an argument because, like I've said before, this is just marketing, and branding doesn't change the fact that the TLK remake is still an animated movie (generously speaking, only '''one''' shot in the entire film was recorded, which was the first opening sunrise shot, and that's it!), even the box-office figure sources cited inside this article recognise that; so why can't the opening line include it? [[User:TonyZangrand|TonyZangrand]] ([[User talk:TonyZangrand|talk]]) 16:19, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
:First, I removed the note that said, ''"Disney does not consider the film animated, as it is a 'live-action' remake, even if produced animated. See the 'Box office' section for more info."'' I strongly question following Disney in categorizing this film. We should look to secondary sources that are independent of the entities that made the film. Secondly, that means we cannot argue from ourselves what the writing should be. Wikipedia follows the world in summarizing coverage, so we should look at how reliable sources have described ''The Lion King''. I do see that the second sentence mentions "photorealistic animated" -- is there due weight for this, and should it be in the first sentence? [[User:Erik|Erik]] ([[User talk:Erik|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Erik|contrib]]) <sup>([[Template:Reply to|ping me]])</sup> 17:26, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
:First, I removed the note that said, ''"Disney does not consider the film animated, as it is a 'live-action' remake, even if produced animated. See the 'Box office' section for more info."'' I strongly question following Disney in categorizing this film. I didn't see a discussion about having this note. We should look to secondary sources that are independent of the entities that made the film. Secondly, that means we cannot argue from ourselves what the writing should be. Wikipedia follows the world in summarizing coverage, so we should look at how reliable sources have described ''The Lion King''. I do see that the second sentence mentions "photorealistic animated" -- is there due weight for this, and should it be in the first sentence? [[User:Erik|Erik]] ([[User talk:Erik|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Erik|contrib]]) <sup>([[Template:Reply to|ping me]])</sup> 17:26, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
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In the lead, it mentions lack of originality and facial expressions as key points of criticism. Reading over the reception and summarizing it, I’d argue that the overall shift to realism and a “lack of heart/soul” is mentioned more often, and thus, should be mentioned in the lead. 2603:6010:11F0:3C0:9D32:3C8E:7F12:AEFB (talk) 11:32, 19 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
End this "Live-Action" Madness
I think we should finally address the topic of not being able to correctly classify the film in it's correct medium in the opening paragraph.
Yes, Disney's marketing pushed very hard for this film to line with their other live-action remakes, but it would be disingenous to allow that as an argument because, like I've said before, this is just marketing, and branding doesn't change the fact that the TLK remake is still an animated movie (generously speaking, only one shot in the entire film was recorded, which was the first opening sunrise shot, and that's it!), even the box-office figure sources cited inside this article recognise that; so why can't the opening line include it? TonyZangrand (talk) 16:19, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
First, I removed the note that said, "Disney does not consider the film animated, as it is a 'live-action' remake, even if produced animated. See the 'Box office' section for more info." I strongly question following Disney in categorizing this film. I didn't see a discussion about having this note. We should look to secondary sources that are independent of the entities that made the film. Secondly, that means we cannot argue from ourselves what the writing should be. Wikipedia follows the world in summarizing coverage, so we should look at how reliable sources have described The Lion King. I do see that the second sentence mentions "photorealistic animated" -- is there due weight for this, and should it be in the first sentence? Erik (talk | contrib) (ping me)17:26, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]