Talk:The Lion King (2019 film)

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Conclude the film review analysis with all the key points of the review. 203.99.159.202 (talk) 10:41, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 July 2022

In the section 5.1 "Novelization", the paragraph starts with "Unlike Shakespeare's Hamlet".

I think someone has vandalised this paragraph and those 3 words should be removed. 157.211.1.33 (talk) 14:20, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

 Done That was added here. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:40, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Mufasa: The Lion King in production, so should have its own page?

Would the footage shown at D23 not confirm that the film is already in production, and thus, should get a page of its own? giftheck (talk) 21:58, 11 September 2022 (UTC)

It's currently being incubated in draftspace at Draft:Mufasa: The Lion King. Per WP:NFF, it should be okay to move the page to the mainspace, but I'll hear what other editors think. InfiniteNexus (talk) 05:59, 12 September 2022 (UTC)

Lead on reception

In the lead, it mentions lack of originality and facial expressions as key points of criticism. Reading over the reception and summarizing it, I’d argue that the overall shift to realism and a “lack of heart/soul” is mentioned more often, and thus, should be mentioned in the lead. 2603:6010:11F0:3C0:9D32:3C8E:7F12:AEFB (talk) 11:32, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

End this "Live-Action" Madness

I think we should finally address the topic of not being able to correctly classify the film in it's correct medium in the opening paragraph. Yes, Disney's marketing pushed very hard for this film to line with their other live-action remakes, but it would be disingenous to allow that as an argument because, like I've said before, this is just marketing, and branding doesn't change the fact that the TLK remake is still an animated movie (generously speaking, only one shot in the entire film was recorded, which was the first opening sunrise shot, and that's it!), even the box-office figure sources cited inside this article recognise that; so why can't the opening line include it? TonyZangrand (talk) 16:19, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

First, I removed the note that said, "Disney does not consider the film animated, as it is a 'live-action' remake, even if produced animated. See the 'Box office' section for more info." I strongly question following Disney in categorizing this film. I didn't see a discussion about having this note. We should look to secondary sources that are independent of the entities that made the film, for how they describe it. Secondly, that means we cannot argue from ourselves what the writing should be. Wikipedia follows the world in summarizing coverage, so we should look at how reliable sources have described The Lion King. I do see that the second sentence mentions "photorealistic animated" -- is there due weight for this, and should it be in the first sentence? Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 17:26, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

It is adequately and appropriately described in the second sentence. It isn't described as either live-action or animated in the intro sentence. For complex situations where simple wording in the intro isn't appropriate, and this applies to more than just this situation, a more complete explanation later in the lead is appropriate which is what was done in this article. I see no reason to change the article to put a somewhat contentious descriptive adjective in the intro particularly when it is clear from reading the first paragraph how the film was created. Geraldo Perez (talk) 17:42, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

We need to follow reliable sources and not argue from ourselves what the writing should be. Was that done somewhere in another discussion? We need to properly vet this to see what labels like "photorealistic animated" or other labels exist. If there is enough due weight, a proper label can be in the first sentence. Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 17:48, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

We can dig into sources, but I think the first two sentences needed fixing anyway to properly place this film's most noteworthy context, being a remake of the 1994 film, in the first sentence. See my essay at WP:FILM1STSENTENCE for how policies and guidelines apply in that regard. If we do that, then we can say "photorealistic animated" to indicate the nature of the remake without actually putting a genre between "2019" and "film". Thoughts? Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 17:52, 29 May 2024 (UTC)