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If you are unable to complete a move for technical reasons, you can request technical help below. This is the correct method if you tried to move a page, but you got an error message saying something like "You do not have permission to move this page, for the following reasons:..." or "The/This page could not be moved, for the following reason:..."

To list a technical request: edit the Uncontroversial technical requests subsection and insert the following code at the bottom of the list, filling in pages and reason:
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This will automatically insert a bullet and include your signature. Please do not edit the article's talk page.
If you object to a proposal listed in the uncontroversial technical requests section, please move the request to the Contested technical requests section, append a note on the request elaborating on why, and sign with ~~~~. Consider pinging the requester to let them know about the objection.
If your technical request is contested, or if a contested request is left untouched without reply, create a requested move on the article talk and remove the request from the section here. The fastest and easiest way is to click the "discuss" button at the request, save the talk page, and remove the entry on this page.

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Very Ralph (film) (currently a redirect to Very Ralph) → Very Ralph (move · discuss) – Article to replace redirect. Thriley (talk) 23:42, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Abdulmejid I (currently a redirect to Abdülmecid I) → Abdülmecid I (move · discuss) – Per WP:TRANSLITERATE. The contemporary Turkish spelling (with the 'ü' but without a 't' replacing the final 'd') is predominantly preferred in credible English-language sources, as searches on Ngram Viewer and JSTOR indicate. Both the Encyclopaedia of Islam and Britannica prefer Abdülmecid. yaguzi (talk) 14:22, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Abdulmejid II (currently a redirect to Abdülmecid II) → Abdülmecid II (move · discuss) – Per above. yaguzi (talk) 14:24, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oyer and terminer → Oyer and Terminer (currently a redirect back to Oyer and terminer) (move · discuss) – legal title of a court deisenbe (talk) 20:03, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Kwanso (currently a redirect to Kwansŏ) → Kwansŏ (move · discuss) – Without the diacritic it's suggesting a completely different word in Korean (관소 vs 관서). There is unlikely to be a WP:COMMONNAME for this place; the geographical region is mostly referred to historically, and historical papers in English use the diacritic. 104.232.119.107 (talk) 20:05, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ysleta del Sur Pueblo → Tigua (currently a redirect back to Ysleta del Sur Pueblo) (move · discuss) – Page is about both a pueblo and corresponding tribe, both sometimes called Tigua. "Tigua" therefore makes more sense to describe both together, and already redirects to that page. — Moriwen (talk) 00:46, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Contested technical requests

American open-wheel car racing → Indy car racing (currently a redirect back to American open-wheel car racing) (move · discuss) – WP:COMMONTERM RegalZ8790 (talk) 18:57, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Is it though? I'm not sure "indy car" really saw much use before the 1990s, retconning the entire history of American racing is at least worth a discussion. 162 etc. (talk) 05:02, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
if i can chime in, the page is an overview of Indy car racing only, which has been known by that name since the 1950s. If it was an full histort of American racing it would also discuss the other open-wheel disciplines such as sprint cars, midget cars, super modifieds and modifieds. Not to mention the non-open-wheel of NASCAR and Drag Racing. The article itself is clear that the common term is Indy car. thank you 2605:59C8:10F0:1410:396E:69B0:4005:79DF (talk) 13:46, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Though it isn't, Formula cars are also called indy cars, according to some authorities. So any open-wheel open-cockpit single-seat racing prototype/specialty series/race would be indy car racing, not just American ones, including formula, including spec racing. -- 65.92.244.237 (talk) 05:14, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Belgica metro station → Belgica (Brussels Metro) (currently a redirect back to Belgica metro station) (move · discuss) – Bélgica (Madrid Metro) is formatted in this manner 65.92.244.237 (talk) 10:29, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
All entries at Category:Brussels metro stations are of the form X metro station, and this matches the standard for rail transport stations across the whole project so certainly the proposed move should not go ahead as specified. Arguably it's the Madrid metro stations which do not follow that format and should probably be renamed... On the specific question of whether further disambiguation is needed between the Brussel and the Madrid Belgicas, it seems like the diacritic (Belgica vs Bélgica) is sufficient here per WP:SMALLDETAILS so I'd recommend leaving the Brussels one exactly as it is. Cheers — Amakuru (talk) 11:13, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Bélgica itself (with the diacritic) redirects to Belgium, and Brussels is in Belgium... -- 65.92.244.237 (talk) 11:42, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The current title meets WP:NATURAL. Maybe it's Bélgica (Madrid Metro) that needs moving? Either way, yes, this is not uncontroversial. Steel1943 (talk) 14:20, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Attempted assassination of Robert Fico → Shooting of Robert Fico (currently a redirect back to Attempted assassination of Robert Fico) (move · discuss) – Moving the article to the current title was jumping to ungrounded conclusions, and as such shouldn't happen here. The requested title was the original article's title. Now it is a redirect page with more edits in the history, so I cannot move it back. The content of the article state that the attack was not meant to kill him. IHaveBecauseOfLocks (talk) 14:29, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

IHaveBecauseOfLocks, given that this was a subject of discussion on the talk page and elsewhere, an unilateral move may be contentious. Please open a RM discussion. – robertsky (talk) 16:01, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

David TC Davies (currently a redirect to David T. C. Davies) → David T. C. Davies (move · discuss) – Per MOS:INITIALS. While the subject may prefer it styled this way, the reliable sources do not follow suit, which is the key point in the policy grounds for an exception style SchroCat (talk) 18:04, 28 May 2024 (UTC) - SchroCat (talk) 18:04, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@SchroCat: The article was moved from David T. C. Davies to its current title less than a year ago, so this would require further discussion. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 19:49, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Over two years ago, actually. But yes, there needs to be a requested move discussion before restoring this reverted move. You can open an RM by clicking "discuss" on this request. SilverLocust 💬 05:39, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@SilverLocust Both actually. It was moved in February 2022 (over two years) and again in June 2023 (less than a year). --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 13:36, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The talk page was moved in June 2023 without moving the article. SilverLocust 💬 16:14, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Environmental impact of the Israel–Hamas war → Environmental damage caused by the Israel–Hamas war (currently a redirect back to Environmental impact of the Israel–Hamas war) (move · discuss) – This was a good faith move, that involved some minimal discussion, but the way to move controversial topics is through a move request. Since this page is currently on the main page, we can wait until its off the main page before we move it back to avoid a redirect. VR _{(Please ping on reply)} 04:37, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Discussion is discussion. The mover linked https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Environmental_damage_caused_by_the_Israel%E2%80%93Hamas_war#Suggested_rename and https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:DYK#Environmental_damage_in_the_Gaza_Strip_caused_by_the_Israel%E2%80%93Hamas_war where there was WP:CONSENSUS at least. If you think the rename should be what you propose, then file a new move request at WP:RM. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 11:09, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nivedita Saraf → Nivedita Joshi (currently a redirect instead to Nivedita Saraf) (move · discuss) – Her professional name has always been Nivedita Saraf. Saraf is her WPM:COMMON NAME and is used everywhere. 103.87.143.104 (talk) 13:20, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
At a quick glance, most of the sources use Nivedita Saraf. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 13:51, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
West African Football Union → WAFU (currently a redirect back to West African Football Union) (move · discuss) – Pageviews conducted on these provide arguable evidence. The page that the target title redirects to (Wafu) is already a DAB page. Intrisit (talk) 11:30, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If we aren't going based on WP:DIFFCAPS (and I think there's a solid case for that policy here), the football union would only really be competing with Wafu dressing, which I would say the pageviews are close enough to warrant discussion, but WAFU is recognizable enough from Wafu. No need to compare pageviews to the redirect/dab and the only other article is related to the union and honestly doesn't need disambiguation. All that said, pageviews are less relevant here, the real question is whether reliable sources are using "WAFU" or "West African Football Union" more often. ASUKITE 14:55, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

They are used interchangably; until you brought in the Wafu dressing pageviews comparison, which I didn't see coming and admittedly very close within the last fortnight. I felt that if it was moved to WAFU, the other DAB entries could be incubated into a hatnote at the page. Intrisit (talk) 17:28, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Right. Retarget WAFU to West African Football Union. Moving the article itself to WAFU is not uncontroversial. 162 etc. (talk) 16:47, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@162 etc.: You mean like what it is done for NBA, ISO and NFL? Intrisit (talk) 17:28, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. 162 etc. (talk) 18:51, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Naagin (2007 TV series) (currently a redirect to Naaginn (2007 TV series)) → Naaginn – Vaadon Ki Agniparikshaa (move · discuss) – Naaginn – Waadon Ki Agniparikshaa is the WPM:COMMON NAME of the show 103.87.143.104 (talk) 15:17, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This move was previously attempted last year but was reverted, implying it is controversial. Side note, I did move to restore the stable name of Naaginn (2007 TV series) Bensci54 (talk) 15:38, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Raazz Mahal → Raazz Mahal – Dakini Ka Rahasya (move · discuss) – Raazz Mahal – Dakini Ka Rahasya is the WPM:COMMON NAME of this show. 103.87.143.104 (talk) 15:06, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Shruti Ulfat → Shruti Panwar (currently a redirect instead to Shruti Ulfat) (move · discuss) – Her professional name has always been Shruti Panwar. Panwar is her WPM: COMMON NAME and is used everywhere. 103.87.143.104 (talk) 15:17, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Barkha Bisht Sengupta (currently a redirect to Barkha Bisht) → Barkha Bisht (move · discuss) – Her professional name has always been Barkha Bisht. Bisht is her WPM:COMMON NAME and is used everywhere. 103.87.143.104 (talk) 13:20, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Many of the sources still use Sengupta, even after her divorce, although it seems to be split. I'll let an editor with more familiarity with Indian cinema chime in. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 13:52, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
These four moves were each previously done/requested by blocked socks of Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Kajal1985 srivastav. SilverLocust 💬 17:06, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Shravani (TV series) → Ummeed Ki Roshni Shravani (currently a redirect back to Shravani (TV series)) (move · discuss) – Ummeed Ki Roshni Shravani is the WPM:COMMON NAME of this show. 103.87.143.104 (talk) 16:59, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Am I mistaking here. These are two different article in their correct name entry. What are you really proposing? Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 17:15, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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 * {{RMassist/core | 1 =  Oyer and terminer  | 2 =  Oyer and Terminer   | discuss =  | reason = legal title of a court | sig = [[User:Deisenbe|deisenbe]] ([[User talk:Deisenbe|talk]]) 20:03, 29 May 2024 (UTC) | requester = Deisenbe}}
 * {{RMassist/core | 1 = Kwanso | 2 = Kwansŏ | discuss =  | reason = Without the diacritic it's suggesting a completely different word in Korean (관소 vs 관서). There is unlikely to be a [[WP:COMMONNAME]] for this place; the geographical region is mostly referred to historically, and historical papers in English use the diacritic. | sig = [[Special:Contributions/104.232.119.107|104.232.119.107]] ([[User talk:104.232.119.107|talk]]) 20:05, 29 May 2024 (UTC) | requester = 104.232.119.107}}
+* {{RMassist/core | 1 = Ysleta del Sur Pueblo | 2 = Tigua | discuss =  | reason = Page is about both a pueblo and corresponding tribe, both sometimes called Tigua. "Tigua" therefore makes more sense to describe both together, and already redirects to that page. | sig = — [[User:Moriwen|Moriwen]] ([[User talk:Moriwen|talk]]) 00:46, 30 May 2024 (UTC) | requester = Moriwen}}
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