Talk:1989 South African general election

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the labor union solidarity/solidariteit is not the same organisation as the former indian ZA party with this name which participated in these elections! wikilink has to be adjusted.--Severino (talk) 13:57, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Results by electoral division

House of Assembly results by electoral division (parliamentary constituency) as published on the Government Gazette are now included in the article. Note that nationwide vote totals - unchanged since they are identical to those published on the Government Gazette - exclude results from the tied Fauresmith division (subsequently awarded to the National Party), and that the registered voters total also excludes figures from the constituencies of Sandton and Yeoville, where no voting took place since they were won unopposed by the Democratic Party. Manuel Alvarez-Rivera (talk) 01:47, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

Infobox changed into list without reason?

The previous Infobox(including images and graphics) has been changed into listing of election results. Excluding the House of delegates, no more than four parties (plus independents) were elected. Four parties (plus independents) can be, in my opinion, shown in an „illustrated“ Infobox without a reader loosing oversight. I do not understand the reason for displaying the election results (except for the house of delegates) in such a list. RandonDjion (talk) 02:28, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

We really need to revisit these election infoboxes. These new ones are absolutely hideous. Carlp941 (talk) 03:55, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

Visit the talk page for the most recent SA elections. There's a reason there. Weigh in if you feel consensus has not been reached. Carlp941 (talk) 04:08, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

full protection 2 days edit warring

This has gotten completely ridiculous. Full protection for two days. Please discuss rather than reverting. Valereee (talk) 20:30, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

Oh come on man, what was wrong with my edit? more over is absolutely idiotic that the “default” edit should be that of number 57, as if he wasn’t part of all of this, and especially because no consensus has already been reached so why should be his way the standard? Siglæ (talk) 20:41, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

I agree that protection could be warranted in order to prevent further edit warring, but please Valereee consider that this was the edit that sparked the edit warring here in the ensuing days (just as similar efforts across vast swathes of elections without clear cause have sparked massive edit warring across them). You reverted this back to the actual contentious version. There was no consensus for this edit, which changed a version which had been stable for years (and no, edit summaries are not appropiate for attaining consensus). A full-fledged discussion around this issue is taking place at Talk:2024 South African general election#Infobox legislative election instead of Infobox election. Impru20^talk 20:53, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

Wholeheartedly agree with everything said Siglæ (talk) 20:55, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

I get it, WP:WRONGVERSION. My default at this lamest ever edit war over multiple pages is whatever seems like predates the most recent edit war -- most of which seems to have occurred after various social media rants appeared -- that is also the least damaging to any unrelated intervening helpful edits. All I am trying to do is stop this stupid edit war. There is absolutely no excuse for it. It literally does not matter whether the "wrong version" is what's on the page for a few days while the issue gets discussed. It's kind of absurd I should have to full protect this for even two days, as the EC editors here should be well aware of that. Valereee (talk) 12:00, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

1) I did not intervene in the edit war (and very specifically not in this article).

2) It is not actually as you say. You reverted a previous edit (claiming that you were restoring to the "version before edit warring", which was factually untrue as the imposition of that version was what sparked the edit warring across SA election articles), and only then protected the page. It is not that "the wrong version" got caught in the middle of the protection: you did choose one of the versions, then locked up the page to prevent anyone from editing it any further.

3) The discussion at Talk:2024 South African general election#Infobox legislative election instead of Infobox election (the one whose outcome we all were seemingly waiting for to decide on this article's outcome) has ended with a frontal rejection of the edits and in support of keeping the original version. So yes: it is the version against consensus the one that is currently in place here. Impru20^talk 12:19, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

Consesus reached, revert changes?

Now that Consesus has been reached on the 2024 election talk page, can we implement TIE, at least for the National Assembly election in this page as well? Can the limitations be removed? @Valereee@Czello Siglæ (talk) 08:16, 16 June 2024 (UTC)