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Why does this article say that the Nazis were right-wing?

Because that is the consensus of reliable sources, in this case historians and political scientists.

But the word "socialist" is right in their name!

Many political entities have names that can be misleading. Consider, for example, the Holy Roman Empire (a confederation of mainly German territories during the Middle Ages and the early modern period) and North Korea's official name, the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (a totalitarian dictatorship). In addition to this, the usage of the word "socialism" by the Nazis is different from the common usage of the term "socialism", which refers to an economic philosophy involving advocacy for social ownership of the means of production.
In the case of the Nazi party, the phrase "national socialist" was a nationalist response to the rise of socialism in Europe by offering a redefinition of "socialism" to refer to the promotion of the interests of the nation, as opposed to ideas of individual self-interest. But there was no policy of social ownership of the means of production. The Nazis did talk about capitalism being bad, but they defined it as a Jewish-originated economic philosophy based on individualism that promoted plutocracy in the interest of the Jews, at the expense of non-Jewish nations and races. This was put in contrast to the Nazis' conception of socialism, which was done in order to win over people attracted to anti-capitalist and socialist ideas to their cause. They rejected ideas of equality and working class solidarity, instead advocating for social hierarchy and national strength. This article sums it up well.

I made an offhand comment about it and somebody just came along and deleted it! What should I do?

Nothing. See this discussion where the community came to a consensus that we have entertained the numerous questions and claims about the Nazis being left-wing enough, and that continued engagement with people pushing this line of reasoning is not helpful to the article.

That doesn't seem very fair. Don't Wikipedia policies require editors to assume good faith? What if somebody posts that position here with a really good argument?

See the following links, all of which are to discussions about this very question over time. Any argument someone thinks is novel has already been made, been responded to, and failed to convince anyone. [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8], [9], [10], [11], [12], [13], [14], [15], [16], [17], [18], [19], [20], [21], [22], [23], [24], [25], [26], [27], [28]

But what if I find a large number of very reliable sources all claiming that Nazism is left-wing?

Then you will be more than welcome to show them to us, so that we can see that they are very reliable and that they assert that Nazism is a left-wing ideology. If they are, then we will change the article.

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Nazism is a far-right ideology.

The consensus of political scientists, historians, and other reliable sources is that Nazism is a far-right ideology and not a left-wing or far-left one. This has been discussed numerous times. Please see this FAQ and read the talk page archives.

Please do not request that "far-right" be changed to "left-wing" or "far-left"; your request will be denied, and you may be blocked from editing if you persist in doing so.

"Nazi Party" is the English-language common name for the National Socialist German Workers Party.

Per our policy, WP:COMMONNAME, English Wikipedia uses the common name in English for the titles of our articles, and in most references to that subject. Thus "Nazi Party" and "Nazism" are the names of our articles on those subjects, and in most instances the National Socialist German Workers Party is referred to as the Nazi Party, but occasionally, to avoid repetition, by the full English-language name, or by its German acronym, NSDAP.

Please do not request that the name of this article be changed; such requests are routinely turned down.

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Etymology	5,096	5,096
Position within the political spectrum	19,114	19,114
Origins	1,446	46,845
Völkisch nationalism	18,956	18,956
Racial theories and antisemitism	14,464	15,657
Use of the American racist model	1,193	1,193
Response to World War I and Italian Fascism	10,786	10,786
Ideology and programme	2,771	109,113
Nationalism and racialism	2,414	32,662
Irredentism and expansionism	11,292	11,292
Racial theories	18,956	18,956
Social class	10,770	10,770
Sex and gender	13,127	15,091
Opposition to homosexuality	1,964	1,964
Religion	9,647	9,647
Economics	15,434	30,860
Anti-communism	5,648	5,648
Views of capitalism	9,778	9,778
Totalitarianism	7,312	7,312
Classification: Reactionary or Revolutionary	7,785	16,139
Contemporary events and views	7,273	7,273
Post-war Nazism	1,081	1,081
See also	654	654
References	17	36,065
Notes	29,074	29,074
Bibliography	6,974	6,974
External links	1,446	1,446
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Please add dates to first paragraph.

Should have dates of origin & dates in power in 1st or 2nd paragraph. 87.223.101.43 (talk) 00:10, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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In the description, the NAZI party is described as “far-right”. They were, in fact, the National Socialist Party. Factually speaking, they were “far-left”. They only became “far-right” because the Left wanted to disassociate themselves from the NAZI origins. BobTheLibertarian (talk) 22:03, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: See the #FAQ. — Czello ^(music) 22:04, 28 April 2024 (UTC)nt[reply]

Ahistorical nonsense. See the FAQ at the top of this page. Acroterion (talk) 22:06, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nazis were not right leaning

It's literally in the name: national SOCIALIST party. The nazis were not right leaning at all! They were socialist, which would be left winged. 2601:CE:8200:4960:6952:D1:BFF4:F863 (talk) 00:20, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Incorrect. See the FAQ near the top of the page. O3000, Ret. (talk) 00:25, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What FAQ are you referring to?

Socialism is widely accepted as left-wing. NSDAP was a socialist workers party. They kept the red from the tri-color standard specifically to represent the partys socialistic ideology.

While they might have regarded themselves as neither left north right, they were most definitely left-wing, at best/worst centre-left. 213.238.201.221 (talk) 08:57, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

See #FAQ, it's at the top of this page.

The Nazis weren't actual socialists, they appropriated the trappings of socialism to win over working class supporters. — Czello ^(music) 09:13, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

So is the site broken or am I missing something? There is no visible FAQ section on my end and clicking the bookmark link leads nowhere.

But doesn't that mean they effectively had to adopt socialist policies to keep up façade, so as to not lose support? Meaning, technically they're left-leaning socialists? 213.238.201.221 (talk) 13:19, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Are you on mobile? It might not be showing in the case; it's visible on desktop. — Czello ^(music) 13:26, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Correct, but it doesn't show up when requesting desktop site either. So I guess it's browser dependent. 213.238.201.221 (talk) 13:50, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Copied from the FAQ:

Why does this article say that the Nazis were right-wing?

Because that is the consensus of reliable sources, in this case historians and political scientists.

But the word "socialist" is right in their name!

Many political entities have names that can be misleading. Consider, for example, the Holy Roman Empire (a confederation of mainly German territories during the Middle Ages and the early modern period) and North Korea's official name, the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (a totalitarian dictatorship). The usage of the word "socialism" by the Nazis is different from the common usage of the term "socialism" to refer to an economic philosophy involving advocacy for social ownership of the means of production. The phrase "national socialist" was a nationalist response to the rise of socialism in Europe by offering a redefinition of "socialism" to refer to the promotion of the interests of the nation, as opposed to ideas of individual self-interest. But there was no policy of social ownership of the means of production. The Nazis did talk about capitalism being bad, but they defined it as a Jewish-originated economic philosophy based on individualism that promoted plutocracy in the interest of the Jews, at the expense of non-Jewish nations and races. This was put in contrast to the Nazis' conception of socialism, which was done in order to win over people attracted to anti-capitalist and socialist ideas to their cause. They rejected ideas of equality and working class solidarity, instead advocating for social hierarchy and national strength. This article sums it up well.

O3000, Ret. (talk) 13:41, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry but that doesn't make complete sense to me. Reliable sources means nothing, when the victor writes history.

Furthermore you're ignoring every other point I made except having 'socialism' in their name. To confuse the discussion even more, you argued before that their views on socialism included property ownership, as opposed to Marxism, which was "anti-property". Now you paste text from the FAQ that states their version of socialism is "different from the common usage of the term 'socialism' to refer to an economic philosophy involving advocacy for social ownership of the means of production"? 213.238.201.221 (talk) 13:56, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In 1930, Hitler said: "Our adopted term 'Socialist' has nothing to do with Marxist Socialism. Marxism is anti-property; true Socialism is not." O3000, Ret. (talk) 10:43, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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 :::::::Many political entities have names that can be misleading. Consider, for example, the [[Holy Roman Empire]] (a confederation of mainly German territories during the Middle Ages and the early modern period) and North Korea's official name, the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (a totalitarian dictatorship). The [[Socialism#Etymology|usage of the word]] "socialism" by the Nazis is different from the common usage of the term "socialism" to refer to an economic philosophy involving advocacy for social ownership of the means of production. The phrase "national socialist" was a nationalist response to the rise of socialism in Europe by offering a redefinition of "socialism" to refer to the promotion of the interests of the nation, as opposed to ideas of individual self-interest. But there was no policy of social ownership of the means of production. The Nazis did talk about capitalism being bad, but they defined it as a Jewish-originated economic philosophy based on individualism that promoted plutocracy in the interest of the Jews, at the expense of non-Jewish nations and races. This was put in contrast to the Nazis' conception of socialism, which was done in order to win over people attracted to anti-capitalist and socialist ideas to their cause. They rejected ideas of equality and working class solidarity, instead advocating for social hierarchy and national strength.  [https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/05/29/greenes-ahistorical-claim-that-nazis-were-socialists/ This article] sums it up well.
 :::::[[User:Objective3000|O3000, Ret.]] ([[User talk:Objective3000|talk]]) 13:41, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
+::::::Sorry but that doesn't make complete sense to me. Reliable sources means nothing, when the victor writes history.
+::::::Furthermore you're ignoring every other point I made except having 'socialism' in their name. To confuse the discussion even more, you argued before that their views on socialism included property ownership, as opposed to Marxism, which was "anti-property". Now you paste text from the FAQ that states their version of socialism is "different from the common usage of the term 'socialism' to refer to an economic philosophy involving advocacy for social ownership of the means of production"? [[Special:Contributions/213.238.201.221|213.238.201.221]] ([[User talk:213.238.201.221|talk]]) 13:56, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
 :::In 1930, Hitler said: "Our adopted term 'Socialist' has nothing to do with Marxist Socialism. Marxism is anti-property; true Socialism is not." [[User:Objective3000|O3000, Ret.]] ([[User talk:Objective3000|talk]]) 10:43, 16 June 2024 (UTC)