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:Err, I just now looked at the page. You are absolutely and completely sure that this is ''Turdus merula'', right? [[User:Enuja|Enuja]] 00:51, 16 April 2007 (UTC) |
:Err, I just now looked at the page. You are absolutely and completely sure that this is ''Turdus merula'', right? [[User:Enuja|Enuja]] 00:51, 16 April 2007 (UTC) |
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:*A request for an opinion was placed at [[WP:BIRD]]. I have to say it looks like a young Blackbird to me. [[Sexual dimorphism]] in plumage is fairly common in birds. [[User:Sabine's Sunbird|Sabine's Sunbird]] [[User talk:Sabine's Sunbird|<span style="color:#008000;">talk</span>]] 07:28, 16 April 2007 (UTC) |
:*A request for an opinion was placed at [[WP:BIRD]]. I have to say it looks like a young Blackbird to me. [[Sexual dimorphism]] in plumage is fairly common in birds. [[User:Sabine's Sunbird|Sabine's Sunbird]] [[User talk:Sabine's Sunbird|<span style="color:#008000;">talk</span>]] 07:28, 16 April 2007 (UTC) |
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*'''Support''' original, edit2, edit3. Foreground grass is fine, adds to sense of depth, obscures nothing --[[User:AGoon|AGoon]] 13:13, 16 April 2007 (UTC) |
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*'''comment'' caption should be ''Turdus merula'' not ''Turdus Merula''. - [[User:UtherSRG|UtherSRG]] [[User_talk:UtherSRG|(talk)]] 11:21, 16 April 2007 (UTC) |
*'''comment'' caption should be ''Turdus merula'' not ''Turdus Merula''. - [[User:UtherSRG|UtherSRG]] [[User_talk:UtherSRG|(talk)]] 11:21, 16 April 2007 (UTC) |
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Revision as of 13:13, 16 April 2007
- Reason
- High resolution shot, made with a Maksutov 300mm telescope. Shows the female Blackbird appearence in contrast to the male specimen appearing in the taxobox.
- Articles this image appears in
- Blackbird
- Creator
- User:Dschwen
- Support Edit 2 as nominator — Dschwen 12:00, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
- Oppose Lack of contrast. Try the Photoshop command Image/Adjust/Autolevels for a major improvement in contrast - Adrian Pingstone 12:59, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
- Oppose The OOF items in the foreground are mighty distracting. --Bridgecross 14:17, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
- Well, what can you expect from a 150 EUR russian mirror telescope? Circular bokeh! :-) Anyway, I tried to adress both points with an edit. --Dschwen 15:39, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
- Tech question: Are you using the telescope as a prime lens, or in front of a prime? --Janke | Talk 16:02, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
- Prime lens on a 5D. I have an adapter from T2 to EOS mount. --Dschwen 16:31, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
- Wow 5D! Your own? --Fir0002 11:32, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
- I've been contemplating that investment for quite some time, and I made it a combined ph.D. and wedding present to myself :-) --Dschwen 12:55, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
- Contrats on that mate. Getting the Camera that is ; ) -Fcb981 15:06, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
- I've been contemplating that investment for quite some time, and I made it a combined ph.D. and wedding present to myself :-) --Dschwen 12:55, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
- Wow 5D! Your own? --Fir0002 11:32, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
- Prime lens on a 5D. I have an adapter from T2 to EOS mount. --Dschwen 16:31, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
- Tech question: Are you using the telescope as a prime lens, or in front of a prime? --Janke | Talk 16:02, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
- Well, what can you expect from a 150 EUR russian mirror telescope? Circular bokeh! :-) Anyway, I tried to adress both points with an edit. --Dschwen 15:39, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
- Oppose due to the fuzzy object in front of the bird. — The Storm Surfer 00:58, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
- Support Edit 3 A little better. 8thstar 01:22, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
- Sigh, so I fix one thing and people come up with another reason? Come on, it's not like that straw is in front of the birds head. What is it obscuring? --Dschwen 07:49, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
- Support edit 1. To my eyes the photo looks a hundred times better at full size than in thumbnail. The straw in the foreground is basically transparent. Otherwise it looks great, with lovely detail. Pstuart84 Talk 09:45, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
- Weak support (edit 2, edit 3 is also OK with me) per above. A natural habitat is bound to have some obscuring stuff... --Janke | Talk 09:56, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
- Comment I'd support this - it's a very natural shot, well resolved etc - but you've overcooked the contrast on your revision and blown some subtle detail. It just needed a *small* adjustment to counteract the lack of contrast in your cheapo lens ;) mikaultalk 16:28, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
- You are completely right. Edit1 was over the top. I redid it with moderation and additionally put a lot more work into finetuning the mask separating the foreground from the blurred bg. --Dschwen 18:15, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
- proposal I would support this with the yellow obstructing blade of grass cloned out. But I would only bother to spend the time to clone it out if people wouldn't vote against it because of that cloning. Anyone think that modification is a particularly good or bad idea?Debivort 19:26, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
- Good idea, I love the picture but that yellow straw kills me. Leave the rest of the blurred foreground, though. Enuja 22:08, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
- I don't know, doctoring the picture like that seems a little dirty to me. The Storm Surfer 23:13, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
- Support edit 2, for reasons stated above. I will also
would probablysupporta decently cloned version, if it came to it,edit 3 but I really don't have a problem with the OOF grasses; they seem perfectly appropriate to the subject to me. mikaultalk 23:15, 14 April 2007 (UTC) - Support Edit2 or Edit3 - It was harder to do than I expected, but here is a version in which the most annoying grass blade has been cloned out. Debivort 09:26, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
- Weak Support edit 3 I do like this image with the alterations as noted --Newton2 12:57, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
- Support Edit 3. I'm a huge fan. The bird looks like she is staring at you, the feathers are fantastically clear, and the remaining blurry stems and background give context. Enuja 00:46, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
- Err, I just now looked at the page. You are absolutely and completely sure that this is Turdus merula, right? Enuja 00:51, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
- A request for an opinion was placed at WP:BIRD. I have to say it looks like a young Blackbird to me. Sexual dimorphism in plumage is fairly common in birds. Sabine's Sunbird talk 07:28, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
- Support original, edit2, edit3. Foreground grass is fine, adds to sense of depth, obscures nothing --AGoon 13:13, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
- 'comment caption should be Turdus merula not Turdus Merula. - UtherSRG (talk) 11:21, 16 April 2007 (UTC)