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::Hmm. For now, I've reinstated Camp to the creator parameter and added him as a showrunner. [[User:Sjones23|Lord Sjones23]] ([[User talk:Sjones23|talk]] - [[User:Sjones23/Wikipedia contributions|contributions]]) 01:42, 5 July 2024 (UTC) |
::Hmm. For now, I've reinstated Camp to the creator parameter and added him as a showrunner. [[User:Sjones23|Lord Sjones23]] ([[User talk:Sjones23|talk]] - [[User:Sjones23/Wikipedia contributions|contributions]]) 01:42, 5 July 2024 (UTC) |
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:::Camp was also one of the developers of the series but it doesn't mean he created it like he wants to claim. He is more in line as a showrunner, so I side with Sjones23 on this. [[User:BaldiBasicsFan|BaldiBasicsFan]] ([[User talk:BaldiBasicsFan|talk]]) 03:13, 5 July 2024 (UTC) |
:::Camp was also one of the developers of the series but it doesn't mean he created it like he wants to claim. He is more in line as a showrunner, so I side with Sjones23 on this. [[User:BaldiBasicsFan|BaldiBasicsFan]] ([[User talk:BaldiBasicsFan|talk]]) 03:13, 5 July 2024 (UTC) |
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:"Created by" is a credit with specific meaning on a TV show; just because somewhat has creative input when the show was developed doesn't automatically make them a co-creator, nor does someone else calling them a creator. (''[[Lost (2004 TV series)|Lost]]'' is a good example of how this can play out; Lloyd Braun provided the original pitch, while Jeffrey Lieber's contributions on a early version were pretty much entirely cut out, but Lieber gets a creator credit and Braun doesn't, because "created by" has a very specific meaning in Hollywood.) Given that infoboxes tend to stick to official credits, I would stick to only including Kricfalusi in the infobox; Camp's contributions can be discussed in the article. [[User:RunningTiger123|RunningTiger123]] ([[User talk:RunningTiger123|talk]]) 03:38, 5 July 2024 (UTC) |
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Dog Pound Hop not by Reverend Horton Heat
The source for the information that DPH was played by RHH now states "Note: The original list incorrectly referred to Reverend Horton Heat as the creator of the Ren & Stimpy theme song. That entry has been removed from the list, and Consequence regrets the error." They now list only 21 songs instead of 22. I restored the old entry, but i don't know about "Die Screaming Leiderhôsens" either.--Rupert Pupkin (talk) 19:42, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
Creators
While the show's credits (which is the source material) lists John Kricfalusi as its sole creator, Bob Camp has been repeatedly added and removed from the infobox's creator parameter over the past few months. Given that, I have a question: does anyone know if there are secondary sources listing Camp as a co-creator? Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 00:50, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- There's a book titled Collected Interviews: Voices from Twentieth-century Cinema, in which Kricfalusi is interviewed and refers to Camp, and two others, as the creators of the show. In one answer, he refers to the show as a combined vision and notes Bob Camp as the head writer with whom he has created most of the stories. At no point does Kricfalusi take full credit for creation of the show. In fact, he seems adamant in stating it was created by the team. Both references can be seen here. NJZombie (talk) 01:39, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hmm. For now, I've reinstated Camp to the creator parameter and added him as a showrunner. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 01:42, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Camp was also one of the developers of the series but it doesn't mean he created it like he wants to claim. He is more in line as a showrunner, so I side with Sjones23 on this. BaldiBasicsFan (talk) 03:13, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hmm. For now, I've reinstated Camp to the creator parameter and added him as a showrunner. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 01:42, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- "Created by" is a credit with specific meaning on a TV show; just because somewhat has creative input when the show was developed doesn't automatically make them a co-creator, nor does someone else calling them a creator. (Lost is a good example of how this can play out; Lloyd Braun provided the original pitch, while Jeffrey Lieber's contributions on a early version were pretty much entirely cut out, but Lieber gets a creator credit and Braun doesn't, because "created by" has a very specific meaning in Hollywood.) Given that infoboxes tend to stick to official credits, I would stick to only including Kricfalusi in the infobox; Camp's contributions can be discussed in the article. RunningTiger123 (talk) 03:38, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
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