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* [[Elephant Talk (newsletter)]] -> [[Elephant Talk]]. I want "Elephant Talk" to take you the new article about the newsletter (instead of redirecting to [[Elephant Talk (single)]]), because people are more likely to be looking for the newsletter than the obscure single release. --[[User:Discipline|Discipline]] 17:12, Apr 14, 2005 (UTC) |
* [[Elephant Talk (newsletter)]] -> [[Elephant Talk]]. I want "Elephant Talk" to take you the new article about the newsletter (instead of redirecting to [[Elephant Talk (single)]]), because people are more likely to be looking for the newsletter than the obscure single release. --[[User:Discipline|Discipline]] 17:12, Apr 14, 2005 (UTC) |
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* [[Talk:The Man Who Would Be a King]] [[The Man Who Would Be a King]] -> [[The Man Who Would be King]]. As stated in the talk for the page, the correct title is not "...be a King" but rather "be King." The story was first published in ''The Phantom Rickshaw and Other Ghost Stories.'' It was NOT retitled for the movie. This error perpetuates from the master entry for [[Rudyard Kipling]]. |
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Revision as of 23:37, 14 April 2005
Requested moves is used to request, and vote on, article moves that are not straight-forward or that require the assistance of Wikipedia administrators. For example, the proposed move may be controversial, or technical expertise may be needed to merge edit histories. The move should usually be discussed on the talk pages of any relevant articles first, particularly where a page move may be controversial. For simple uncontraversial moves follow the advice at Help:Renaming (moving) a page instead.
Page moves requested on this page may be actioned if there is a rough consensus supporting the moving of an article after five (5) days under discussion on the talk page of the article to be moved, or earlier at the discretion of an administrator.
If you want to merge two articles please make a request at Wikipedia:Duplicate articles instead of here.
Instructions
What to do on the talk page
- Add a note to the talk page of the article you wish to move (not the article itself) using the {{move}} template. This template should be inserted at the top of the page using the following text:
- {{move|new name}}
- replacing the words "new name" with the name of the destination page to where you wish to move the article. This produces the following text on the page where you inserted it:
This template must be substituted. Replace {{Requested move ...}} with {{subst:Requested move ...}}.
To make it easy for the administrator to see if there is a consensus for a move, if a section discussing the move does not already exist on the talk page of the article to be moved, then please add a section. See the section below in Additional notes for an example.
What to do on this Requested moves page
To aid the administrators, add a line with the days date on it directly under the heading of the Notices subsection, if it has not already been added for this day.
- ===[[date]] [[year]]===
Requests added to "Requested move" a page should have the following format:
For a single page move to a new name add a line at the top of the section under the date line:
* [[Talk:page to be moved]] – [[page to be moved]] → [[new name]] – {reason for move} — ~~~~
For more complicated requests see the section lower down this page on #Multiple page moves. See also, the section lower down this page on #Relevant policies and guidelines.
Notices
- Please add new notices to the top of this section.
- Talk:Cantonese (linguistics) -- User:Yuje/drafts/Written_Cantonese -> Written Cantonese. The current page is a redirect, and I want to move my draft, along with the entire history to the page. --Yuje 01:05, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Elephant Talk (newsletter) -> Elephant Talk. I want "Elephant Talk" to take you the new article about the newsletter (instead of redirecting to Elephant Talk (single)), because people are more likely to be looking for the newsletter than the obscure single release. --Discipline 17:12, Apr 14, 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:The Man Who Would Be a King The Man Who Would Be a King -> The Man Who Would be King. As stated in the talk for the page, the correct title is not "...be a King" but rather "be King." The story was first published in The Phantom Rickshaw and Other Ghost Stories. It was NOT retitled for the movie. This error perpetuates from the master entry for Rudyard Kipling.
- Bright Eyes (band) -> Bright Eyes. I moved "Bright Eyes" (a disambig page) to "Bright Eyes (disambiguation)", because the vast majority of links to the disambig page were referring to the band. --Tothebarricades.tk 19:24, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Tony LaRussa – Tony LaRussa → Tony La Russa – {Name misspelled; La Russa has a space in the middle; often confused with parallel baseball manager Tommy Lasorda, whose name has no space after the "La"} — Coll7 17:48, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (movie) – Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (movie) → Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs. The page that was moved to Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (movie) needs to be moved back to Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs. The fairy tale that Walt Disney's film originates from is simply titled Snow White (there are two fairy tales; both are mentioned in the article), not Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs. I am already working to get moderator assistance to do this. --FuriousFreddy 14:18, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Poland's Reconstuction Movemen → Poland's Reconstruction Movement. Simple cut and paste move repair. —Korath (Talk) 03:27, Apr 13, 2005 (UTC)
- Talk: Dong (currency) - Dong (currency) → Vietnamese dong EdwinHJ | Talk 17:27, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Mac OS X v10.4 "Tiger" – Mac OS X Tiger See Talk page for arguments. --Cantus…☎ 18:32, Apr 12, 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Media Center – Media Center This is not only a particular software product! Please create a disambigous page --Velociraptor 09:26, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Ted Kennedy – Ted Kennedy → Edward Kennedy – Kevin Rector see Talk:Ted Kennedy for reasons - (talk) 03:11, Apr 12, 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Cobo Hall – Cobo Hall → Cobo Center – Detroit's "Cobo" complex includes both a convention center (home of Detroit's Auto Show) and a sports arena (former home of the Detroit Pistons and numerous historic musical concerts.) Informal usage of the term "Cobo Hall" can apply to both the location of well-known concerts, and of the adjacent convention center. The informal term "Cobo Hall" should become a Wikipedia:disambiguation page branching to both "Cobo Center" and "Cobo Arena." Is it ok to do this? --hadley 02:20, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Non-sexist language – Non-sexist language → Gender-neutral language – I want the article to be titled with the more commonly used term (more than twice as many Google hits) and the less loaded/POV term — Blackcats 23:50, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Disney (disambiguation) - Disney (disambiguation) → Disney - Disney currently redirects to The Walt Disney Company; using it for disambiguation seems more appropriate. —tregoweth 23:11, Apr 11, 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Dniprodzerzhyns'k – Dniprodzerzhyns'k → Dniprodzerzhynsk – Changing from a linguistically precise Ukrainian transliteration to one more commonly used in media and literature. —Michael Z. 2005-04-11 21:25 Z
- Template talk:Unknown – Template:Unknown → Template:No license – To clarify the usage of the template, and to maintain a consistant naming scheme. — BesigedB (talk) 16:40, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Fort Benning, Georgia -- Fort Benning, Georgia → Fort Benning — It's not a municipality, its a military base, therefore it is not apropos to have the state attached. It used to be that way, but somehow it got moved to Fort Benning, Texas (which needs to be deleted entirely because there is no such place). –radiojon 05:52, 2005 Apr 11 (UTC)
- Talk:Misuse of Drugs Act 1971 -- Misuse of Drugs Act 1971 -> Misuse of Drugs Act (United Kingdom). A series of articles will be created for the different nations. Some, such as Ireland, rename their Acts when they are amended, so references can be found on the Internet to the Irish Misuse of Drugs Act 1977, Misuse of Drugs Act 1984, etc. The new naming convention will avoid confusion arising from year collisions. 205.217.105.2 13:23, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- See also: Misuse of Drugs Act (Ireland), Misuse of Drugs Act (New Zealand), Misuse of Drugs Act (Belize), etc., etc. 205.217.105.2 13:44, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- talk:Joan Dale -- Joan Dale → Joan Dale (DC Comics) – I created this page as a redirect to Miss America (DC Comics), since she seems to be better known nowadays as Joan rather than as her heroic name. I was intending to immediately move it to the latter name, but the system won't let me! Says that I'm too new. — Chyel 04:32, Apr 11, 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Liberal christianity - Liberal christianity → Liberal Christianity - {No set page dealing with Liberal Christianity existed, so I edited the redirect page titled Liberal christianity(lower case c) to start an the article. This lower case c redirect page was previously redirecting to Christian Left, which was not an accurate description of Liberal Christianity. There is another redirect called Liberal Christianity(note capital C) which was redirecting to Liberal theology and has a number of pages using it as a redirect. All the references on those pages however are relevant to the new article I have written. I can include a reference to Liberal theology in the new article I have written to draw peoples attention to Liberal theology article. This would streamline the liberal christianity section with regards to the category of liberal christianity and it's logical sub-category liberal theology by placing in some type of logical order, rather than two seperate redirects taken it in totally different directions, depending on what angle you come at the subject from. ie Liberal christianity with a lower case c or Liberal Christianity with a capital C}. All articles could redirect to one redirect page, Liberal Christianity, and from there to Liberal theology -- Randolph 22:28, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Belfast Agreement -- Belfast Agreement -> Good Friday Agreement. I think that this agreement is far better known as the Good Friday Agreement, it is certainly the name most often used by news outlets here in the UK. Links to the two are roughly equal, although a brief sample suggests that a fair few of the links to the former are actually rendered as the latter in the relevent articles. This might be a contentious move so I have listed it here. Rje 01:23, Apr 10, 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Samir Azzouz -- Please move Samir Azzouz back to Samir A.. See Talk:Samir Azzouz for details. Someone made an account (HenrySixt) only to be able to move this page back. I don't understand how he was able to that it, or someone else did it, but why?. --Jeroenvrp 23:47, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Against. There is much discussion about this at the Dutch Wikipedia, and no agreement yet. Should the English Wikipedia go with Dutch conventions rather than international ones? - Andre Engels 15:03, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:University of Texas at Brownsville - University of Texas at Brownsville → University of Texas at Brownsville-Texas Southmost College - The title of the article refers only to a subset of the institution rather than the entire institution. The proposed title is more appropriate as it is the official name of the institution and it acknowledges the existing partnership between both institutions. (NB: There is a separate article for Texas Southmost College, but refers to historic Texas Southmost College. The University of Texas at Brownsville never existed as a distinct institution.)-- KwaziMF 19:25, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:British funicular railways – British funicular railways → List of funiculars in the United Kingdom. The article is basically two lists, and the new name will match the existing List of funiculars in Switzerland and follow the naming convention to avoid adjectival forms. Thryduulf 18:27, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Voting time extended
Voting on the following move requests have been extended to allow for more votes. Please visit them and post your opinion.
- Talk:Dioscorus I of Alexandria – Dioscorus I of Alexandria → Dioscorus of Alexandria (needs more votes)
- Talk:Zürich – Zürich → Zurich (large, nearly even vote)
- Talk:Karkonosze – Karkonosze → Giant Mountains (needs more votes)
- Talk:The Kimbles – The Kimbles → Kimbles (split vote & not enough votes)
Procedure for admins
It is important to check to see if the redirect has major history; major history contains information about the addition of current text. (This is sometimes caused by the accidental creation of a duplicate article, or someone doing a cut-and-paste "move", instead of using the "Move this page" button.) Never simply delete such redirect pages, (which we need to keep for copyright reasons).
Major history
There are three ways to deal with a page move with a major history:
- The "right" way is to merge the histories, using the procedure outlined here. This is a slightly fraught procedure, which on rare occasions doesn't work correctly. There are also circumstances (e.g. duplicate pages) where it's not the correct choice anyway. Once done, it cannot be undone, so don't pick this option unless it's definitely the right one.
- Alternatively, the article and the redirect can be swapped. This leaves the bifurcated history, but has less chance of causing problems. Simply move one of the pair to a temporary name, and then delete the new redirect which that move will left behind at the original location; next, move the other page of the pair across to the first one's old location, and delete that left-over new redirect; finally, move the first one from its temporary location to its new name. You will then need to delete the new redirect at the temporary location, and finally fix the old redirect to point at the article again (at this point, it will be pointing to itself). This process also works where edit histories cannot be merged because edit history compression prevents one page being deleted.
- Another option is for redirect pages with major history to be archived into a talk namespace, and a link to them put into the article's talk page. (An example of such a page is a Talk:Network SouthEast, which was originally created as a duplicate article at Network SouthEast and later archived, when the original article was moved from Network South East.)
Minor history
A minor history on the other hand contains no information, e.g. the redirect page Eric Tracy has a minor history but Eric Treacy (which incidentally is the correct spelling) could not be moved there because of a spelling mistake in the original page. Redirect pages with minor histories can simply be deleted.
Tidying up
Whichever of these various options you take, moving pages will create double redirects in any redirects that pointed to the original page location. These must be fixed; click on the "What links here" button of the new page location to check for them. It is the responsibility of the admin doing the move to fix these, though periodically a bot will fix any you miss.
When you remove an entry from this page (whether the move was accepted ot rejected), don't forget to remove the {{move}} tag from the talk page and if a discussion on the move exists on the talk page please add and sign a comment to indicate whether the move was accepted or rejected.
It's worth periodically checking either Category:Requested_moves or here to see if any pages missed this step. Checking either of these regularly has the side-benefit of finding pages where people added the {{Move}} tag to the page, but didn't realize they needed to edit WP:RM as well.
Admins volunteering to do tidying tasks should watch this page for new notices.
Blocked history mergers
If block compression stops the required merge of a copy/paste move then move the history to /history and use {{pending merge}}. For example, Bicycle Thieves was moved to Bicycle Thieves/history and {{pending merge|Bicycle Thieves}} placed on the article.
This also adds Category:Pending merge, all of which will be done when the issue is resolved.
Additional notes
A guide for a Requested move section on a talk page
To make it easy for the administrator to see if there is a consensus for a move, if a section discussing the move does not already exist on the talk page of the article to be moved, then please add the following or something similar to the bottom of the page (you can copy and paste this template over):
==Requested move== * the reasons for move copied from [[WP:RM]] ::''Add *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''' followed by an optional one sentence explanation and sign your vote with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> ===Discussion=== ::''Add any additional comments''
If an section called "Requested move" alreay exists on the talk page then expand the title to:
==Requested move to [[NEW NAME]]== <!-- insert new page name! -->
Multiple page moves
For a single page moves with more than one option for the destiniation name:
- Talk:page to be moved -- page to be moved to new page or new page two etc -- {brief reason for move} -- ~~~~
For block moves:
- Talk:page to be moved -- page to be moved 1 to target page 1
- ...
- page to be moved n to target page n
- {brief reason for move} -- ~~~~
An example of how to request to move a block of pages:
- Talk:The Levellers -- Levellers to Levellers (disambiguation)
- The Levellers to Levellers
- the word "The" should be removed from the Levellers page. -- ~~~~
Another example of how to request to move a block of pages:
- Talk:Third world -- First world to First World,
- Second world to Second World and
- Third world to Third World
- This was a move made earlier in the year as a block move, after listing on this page because all three were blocked by edits to the target pages -- ~~~~
Relevant policies and guidelines
PLEASE NOTE:
- Many moves can be accomplished by a registered user without administrator assistance by using the "Move this page" button.
- Requested moves is not the proper place to request renaming images or categories.
- Re-upload the image with the name you want, change the links on the relevant pages. To delete the old one, ask an admin (see Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard and Wikipedia:Requests for sysop attention).
In discussing a page move, or making a move request, please consider following Wikipedia policies and guidelines:
- Wikipedia:Naming conventions
- Wikipedia:Proper names
- Wikipedia:Manual of Style
- Wikipedia:Disambiguation
- Wikipedia:Neutral point of view
- Wikipedia:Don't disrupt Wikipedia to illustrate a point
- Wikipedia:WikiProject Rivers
- If a river page is to be moved please add a mention of the move under Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Rivers#Requested moves