Talk:Burning Man

Cacophony's members, early visionaries, and current times

One of my concerns here is that several founders of Burning Man find no fame or glory here. For those of us closer to the founders, we know the whole idea was formed and took shape at meetings at 1907 Golden Gate Avenue in San Francisco. The huge rambling 2-story flat in San Francisco was home and guest house to several people who were intimately involved with the creation of Burning Man. In case it isn't obvious, friendships suffered when some people turned out to love the glory more than others.

A chief architect of the Burning Man vision was the great doyenne, Roberta "P" Segal, who in true, gender-driven diminution and historical refab, first envisioned and authored the tenets of Burning Man. Another person who stylized and created the original silk screened swag for the parties of 40 at Baker Beach and elsewhere, Chris de Monterey, is also left out of the evolutionary tale of Burning Man.

The Cacophony Society still meets, at least several people still do, in San Francisco on the first Saturday of each month (It is currently Sept. 2022). More than this, Ms. Segal has gone on to a new vision, post several thousand dollars per ticket, in the quest for creative essence; she has created an artist's housing project in San Francisco so the arts can be reborn and San Francisco can once again be a flourishing artist's center. 157.131.246.221 (talk) 05:24, 6 September 2022 (UTC)

Visionary P Segal needs to mentioned as a founder of Burning Man

It is well known within the community of early participants, that the ideas for Burning Man were discussed and evolved at 1907 Golden Gate Avenue in San Francisco, where visionary P Segal was involved along with a small handful of others, some who continued with it, and some who did not as Burning Man took on a life of it's own. There are some remarkable photos out there, but I am not sure if they are available for use from those years. Another early member was Chris de Monterey, who silk screened the first tickets to Baker Beach events. 157.131.199.58 (talk) 01:42, 24 July 2023 (UTC)

• It's not Wikipedia's job to give people fame and glory, and "creative essence" sounds unsanitary. EEng 18:49, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

2023 rain-out and fake news

Flooding has closed the entrance this year source. I was curious if it's ever rained on Burning Man before? Apparently there was also a hoax claiming an Ebola outbreak source. Beland (talk) 03:52, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

I'm not sure about previous rain events but this one I think should probably be included in the history section. - Reallygreatoaktree (talk) 13:36, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

According to social media, it's not a hoax. The Feds have quarantined the camp due to the outbreak of the highly contagious, flesh-eating disease. They're not letting anyone in and out. Complete media blackout like they've tried to do in Maui. 152.130.11.77 (talk) 17:06, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

you mean Brace Belden? He is trolling. Also, complete media blackout isn't possible considering people bring Starlink and other satellite internet to these places. Synopsis19117 (talk) 03:26, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

Added mention of the hoax to the 2023 article. Still curious if rain has happened before. -- Beland (talk) 16:58, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

malicious edits

There have been a series of malicious edits, from the same IP address, changing from "festival" to toilet on fire", changing things to feces, etc. Whitis (talk) 00:47, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

Sounds like appropriate changes that reflect the reality. It's a cesspool. 91.148.90.17 (talk) 01:33, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

stated goals vs reality

"community, art, self-expression, and self-reliance" are the stated principles of burning man and doesn't necessarily reflect reality. it looks to me like the page is being edited by certain groups affiliated with burning man. Synopsis19117 (talk) 11:45, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

Hedonism and paganism

Cxbrx, I take your point about blogs being a poor source. I've re-written with books as a source, though honestly they are janky-seeming books that might be nearly self-published. But, they are by commentators (Ben Shapiro, James Goll and Lou Engle) recognized enough to have their own Wikipedia articles. I'm opening this thread to discuss if this is adequate sourcing. Jno.skinner (talk) 23:44, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

Jno.skinner, thanks, those sources are a bit better than the blog an at least the authors have articles. It would be nice to find better sources, but I'm fine with letting the section stand as you have written it. Other editors will likely have opinions and will hopefully improve that section. Cxbrx (talk) 00:21, 15 July 2024 (UTC)