Talk:Uranography

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I hate to gripe, but this appears to just be the Tirion article (linked to below) copied and pasted. Is that usual practice? --User:Lesonyrra 22:52, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Nope! It's EEVIL!!. And a violation of copyright! Rursus 09:44, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Actually (forgive my screaming), the article says that the intro is used by Tirions permission, so it's maybe not a violation of copyright. But then it is in disaccord with the GFDL rules of Wikipedia. If it's used with some kind of exclusive permission, the GFDL policy is violated. We must replace the article text ASAP. Rursus 09:49, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Merge Celestial atlas

I hereby propose to merge the stubby article Celestial atlas, that I once wrote, because that article treats the same topic as this, and that there's currently no risk of too long and extensive articles. Therefore I propose that the Celestial atlas text is integrated into this text, and that Celestial atlas redirects to Uranography. Rursus 09:44, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

I support the merge, and I suggest including star atlas in the merge as well. However, the final article should probably use a common name such as "celestial atlas" or "star atlas" and not "Uranography". Dr. Submillimeter 11:09, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

About title I disagree, because: "Uranography" is the more general term, so it may include Almagest star tables, Tycho's Uranienborg, Tabulae Rudolphinae, Plancius'es star globes, Bayers star maps, sextants, octants etc.. The cathegories star position measurements, star atlases and observatories are so interdependent that I propone "Uranography" being the initial concept. The English meaning should be something like "star cartography" or the greek-latin "celestiography", so those can be used instead of greek "uranography". Rursus 12:08, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

To be merged (?)

• Celestial atlas,
• Star atlas,
• Uranography.

New title is as yet undecided, the word "celestiography" is discarded (because I couldn't find it in my Swedish-English dictionary). Rursus 12:47, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Future content

Time:

• Antiquity
• Arabic astronomy
• Modern Europe:
  • Renaissance revival - Tycho/Kepler, sea farers, Plancius, Bayer
    • 1500: Mercator (rationalized cartography)
    • 1600: Tycho/Kepler/Keyser/deHoutman/Plancius (systematic uranography)
    • 1603: Bayer (book format, utilising projections)
  • insertme title Hevelius, Herschel, ...
    • 1690: Hevelius (additional star positions)
    • deLacaille
  • Professionalizing:
    • Flamsteed
    • Bode

Rursus 12:01, 17 April 2007 (UTC)