Talk:Erfurt school massacre

Gutenburg vs Gutenberg

why is this articled called Gutenburg? the school is named after johann Gutenberg, the inventor of some bookprintint techniques.

Double Image

Why do we need two pictures of the school from the exact same angle at different times? Is there a time-lapse effect or some drastic changes that have ocurred between the pictures? I'm going to remove the darker image. --ʀ6ʍɑʏ89 02:58, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Accomplice vs accessory

excluded an accomplice, but not an accessory.

Sounds like a technical legal difference under German law. Can someone explain the difference in the article? Tempshill 22:08, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

There was a rumor of a second killer. A policeman located Steinhäuser´s position wrong, behind a tree on the schoolyard. After Steinhäuser shot an other policeman from inside the school he thought of a second killer. -- Noirceuil 19:07, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

From Accessory (legal term)

In some jurisdictions, an accessory is distinguished from an accomplice, who normally is present at the crime and participates in some way. An accessory must generally have knowledge that a crime is being, or will be committed. A person with such knowledge may become an accessory by helping or encouraging the criminal in some way, or simply by failing to report the crime to proper authority. The assistance to the criminal may be of any type, including emotional or financial assistance as well as physical assistance or concealment.

Zarboki 15:00, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

I added wikilinks to the articles about the two terms.--Stijn Vermeeren 14:38, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Use of "Grammar School"

The correct translation for "Gymnasium" is high school, particularly when referring to the years this article refers to (ie. year 10), as High School (in most English speaking countries) is a public secondary school including grades 9 through 12, while "Grammar school" usually encompasses the first 6 or 8 grades. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 139.163.138.14 (talk • contribs) 05:21, 26 September 2006.

Merge?

I think the Robert Steinhäuser article should be merged into this one, because it doesn't add anything that could not well be integrated here. Please speak up if you are against this, but remember that, after all, Steinhäuser is not known for anything else besides the massacre. Kncyu38 21:19, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Death toll

The intro didn't count a police officer in the death toll. I'm fixing it and making it more specific in breakdown of fatalities. Every name is taken12345 04:34, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Now someone has changed the count on the number of teachers killed. At least two sources on THIS PAGE say 14 teachers, 17 people, one of those is BBC news. If anyone else wants to change this please provide a source. Every name is taken12345 23:21, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

All German media concur that 16 victims excluding the gunman, or 17 including the gunman were killed. Follow the link to the German Wikipedia article ('Deutsch') and note that 16 is the number of victims you will find there. Or count the 16 names on the memorial plaque at http://www.gutenberggymnasium.de/main/gedenken/gedenken.html Tacitus 21:38, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Rainer Heise?

Where does the information on this Rainer Heise, who supposedly stopped the shooting, come from? I've looked through all the sources and the only thing I see is in "How teacher stopped the school slaughter" from The Observer, which says it was a female art teacher who locked him in the room, but does not list either of the quotes on this page. -Every name is taken12345 23:32, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

The Steinhäuser and Heise quotes come from the official report of the commision in charge of the incident. It can be found online here:

http://www.thueringer-allgemeine.de/ta/ta_media/ta.KomGut.pdf

(German only) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.142.214.248 (talk) 06:32, 17 April 2007 (UTC).