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Is it really extinct?

Newsday published an article on the popularity of Nüshu: https://www.newsday.com/news/nation/china-nushu-women-exclusive-script-jiangyong-n64765 On the other hand, that article makes no mention of Yao people. Mdmcginn (talk) 03:52, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I saw that article too; it was originally from the Associated Press and it seems to have been picked up by a number of outlets. I am going to modify "extinct" in the first paragraph and refer to that article. — scribbling woman 20:45, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I would recommend not doing so; scripts can be used and understood while still being functionally extinct. Forgive me for the glib but hopefully comparable example: I can get into writing ogham with a friends' circle, but that doesn't mean ogham is in active use as a script writing Gaelic in a community. Separately from its cultural import and aesthetic legacy (which to be clear I think is lovely), to my knowledge Nüshu is not used to write Xiangnan Tuhua on the ground like it was before 2004. This seems equivalent to academic study as presented by an article, though it could lead to reintroduction; we (or sources) would likely consider it a different writing system if it were being used to write in a different way, which this doesn't seem to amount to. This is certainly worth mentioning in the article itself, but I wouldn't change the extinction date. Remsense诉 20:57, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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	*Yes, I saw that article too; it was originally from the Associated Press and it seems to have been picked up by a number of outlets. I am going to modify "extinct" in the first paragraph and refer to that article. — [[User:Scribblingwoman\|<span style="color:#666699;">scribbling</span>]][[User_talk:Scribblingwoman\|<span style="color:#666666;">woman</span>]] 20:45, 10 August 2024 (UTC)		*Yes, I saw that article too; it was originally from the Associated Press and it seems to have been picked up by a number of outlets. I am going to modify "extinct" in the first paragraph and refer to that article. — [[User:Scribblingwoman\|<span style="color:#666699;">scribbling</span>]][[User_talk:Scribblingwoman\|<span style="color:#666666;">woman</span>]] 20:45, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
	*:I would recommend not doing so; scripts can be used and understood while still being functionally extinct. Forgive me for the glib but hopefully comparable example: I can get into writing ogham with a friends' circle, but that doesn't mean ogham is in active use as a script writing Gaelic in a community. Separately from its cultural import and aesthetic legacy (which to be clear I think is lovely), Nüshu is not used to write [[Xiangnan Tuhua]] like it was before 2004. We (or sources) would likely consider it a different [[writing system]] if it were being used to write in a different way, which this doesn't seem to amount to. This is certainly worth mentioning in the article itself, but I wouldn't change the extinction date. [[User:Remsense\|<span style="border-radius:2px 0 0 2px;padding:3px;background:#1E816F;color:#fff">'''Remsense'''</span>]][[User talk:Remsense\|<span lang="zh" style="border:1px solid #1E816F;border-radius:0 2px 2px 0;padding:1px 3px;color:#000">诉</span>]] 20:57, 10 August 2024 (UTC)		*:I would recommend not doing so; scripts can be used and understood while still being functionally extinct. Forgive me for the glib but hopefully comparable example: I can get into writing ogham with a friends' circle, but that doesn't mean ogham is in active use as a script writing Gaelic in a community. Separately from its cultural import and aesthetic legacy (which to be clear I think is lovely), to my knowledge Nüshu is not used to write [[Xiangnan Tuhua]] on the ground like it was before 2004. This seems equivalent to academic study as presented by an article, though it could lead to reintroduction; we (or sources) would likely consider it a different [[writing system]] if it were being used to write in a different way, which this doesn't seem to amount to. This is certainly worth mentioning in the article itself, but I wouldn't change the extinction date. [[User:Remsense\|<span style="border-radius:2px 0 0 2px;padding:3px;background:#1E816F;color:#fff">'''Remsense'''</span>]][[User talk:Remsense\|<span lang="zh" style="border:1px solid #1E816F;border-radius:0 2px 2px 0;padding:1px 3px;color:#000">诉</span>]] 20:57, 10 August 2024 (UTC)