Talk:Darwin

see also:Talk:Darwin, Northern Territory

Link out of date

Can someone change the link of the "A Letter" at the very bottom Its out of date http://darwin-online.org.uk/content/frameset?itemID=EHBeagleDiary&viewtype=text&pageseq=694&keywords=tahiti

Redirect to Charles Darwin

I think this page should be restored back to redirecting to Charles Darwin (the way it was before it was deleted for a page move that was soon reversed). Some of the topics there, especially Darwin, Northern Territory are quite important. However, I believe that an unqualified "Darwin" can be assumed to refer to Charles Darwin and that the redirect should reflect this. Any thoughts? — Knowledge Seeker দ 03:45, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I think that it should remain as it is, redirecting to Darwin (disambiguation). Tony Sidaway and I figured this to be a reasonable compromise. Darwin, Northern Territory should never have been moved to Darwin, but it is finally appropriately named. And while "Darwin" will always most likely refer to something associated with Charles Darwin, he is not always likely to be the topic of choice. "Darwin", unqualified, will always (though not exlusively) refer to the city. Having Darwin redirect to Darwin (disambiguation) is no impediment to a user searching for either topic, and should be preferred to "primary topic disambig" in this case because, I think, there is not one.--Cyberjunkie 04:12, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I understand that Darwin, Northern Territory may have considerable importance in that area of the world, but I definitely disagree that "'Darwin', unqualified, will always...refer to the city." I actually have never heard "Darwin" refer to the Northern Territory capital, although given the distance between the United States and Australia (and the relative geography ignorance here), that's probably not too much of a surprise. — Knowledge Seeker দ 04:23, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

What I meant was, Darwin (city) is not said with any qualification. People simply don't state *City* and then *Polity* in common-speech and rarely do formally. This is not to say, however, that "Darwin" by itself exclusively refers to the city - it doesn't. But because there is no exclusivity is precisely why Darwin should redirect as presently.--Cyberjunkie 06:02, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I agree with Knowledge Seeker that "Darwin" will be a search for Charles Darwin vastly more often than for anything else; he's one of the most famous figures in human history, period. And since Charles Darwin already links to Darwin (disambiguation) at its top, those who aren't searching for Darwin will not be much inconvenienced. However, considering that almost everyone knows his first name as well as his last name, the argument that "Charles Darwin" will be searched for much more often than "Darwin" when seeking that specific page is a valid one; plus consider Lincoln not redirecting to Abraham Lincoln, nor even Santa to Santa Claus or whatnot. I think we should at least seriously consider having the redirect go to Charles Darwin, though. -Silence 09:42, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

Users searching for a particular person are likely to give first and last names, as disambig pages for last name only are typically patchy (even this one doesn't contain all the people in Wikipedia with the surname Darwin). Disambig pages for places are usually much more complete, as are pages for 'firstname lastname', as somebody has probably tried to resolve all links to it at least once. As such, Darwin should be (or redirect to) the disambig page. --Scott Davis ^Talk 23:46, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

You guys are all missing the fact that Darwin is the name of a very popular operating system the core of mac OS X-- which millions of people are using. For this reason the disambibuation page is needed. Glen Pepicelli 07:06, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Note that Einstein redirects to Albert Einstein and not Einstein (disambiguation). Same with Mozart. Newton describes the unit, and has dab links at the top for Isaac Newton and Newton (disambiguation). The precedent isn't clear, but might lean slightly towards moving this to Darwin (disambig) and making this redirect to Charles Darwin. Anyway, for what it's worth, I favor that option. -lethe ^{talk +} 18:48, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

My preference is keeping this as a redirect to the disambiguation page: after all, people may come here looking for the famous naturalist who pioneered ideas about evolution, Erasmus Darwin :) ..dave souza, talk 19:24, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Being an Australian, I actually expected to find the article on Darwin (city) when I typed in "Darwin". I think Darwin should direct to the disambiguation page. GK1 22:25, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

I am far from a scientist or a student of science, and it is utterly incomprehensible to me how "darwin" ever came to lead to this disambugation page. --76.188.161.254 04:32, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

It's because the original English-speakers have evolved into lesser beings over time. 80.47.219.117 12:42, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Renowned

According to Websters renown is defined as "state of being widely acclaimed and highly honored". Is it appropriate to refer to a man who is looked upon by many as a lier because of his unproven theory appropriate? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tjb891 (talk • contribs)