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Russia articles by quality and importance Quality Importance Top High Mid Low NA ??? Total FA 9 17 29 31 1 87 FL 2 4 6 2 14 FM 96 96 A 2 3 12 12 29 GA 28 39 117 226 3 413 B 220 297 522 769 249 2,057 C 359 634 1,289 3,012 823 6,117 Start 436 1,529 6,443 14,654 1 2,524 25,587 Stub 12 231 4,106 45,227 49 3,607 53,232 List 70 96 437 3,290 36 245 4,174 Category 18,810 18,810 Disambig 177 177 File 459 459 Portal 26 26 Project 132 132 Redirect 2 508 1,708 2,218 Template 3,922 3,922 NA 30 3,472 3,502 Other 121 121 Assessed 1,138 2,850 12,963 67,761 29,009 7,452 121,173 Unassessed 370 1,365 1,735 Total 1,138 2,850 12,963 68,131 29,009 8,817 122,908 WikiWork factors (?) ω = 478,533 Ω = 5.47

Category:Hero Cities of the Soviet Union has been nominated for discussion

Category:Hero Cities of the Soviet Union, which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to see if it abides with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); May 6, 2016; 12:47 (UTC)

equal marriages Romanov Bagration .

When Princess Tatiana Konstantinovna , daughter of G-D Konstantine Konstantinovich, obtained the consent of her father to marry Konstantine Bagration and of course the blessing of HIM Nicholas II, she signed an official renouncement to their future children's rights, and that was BEFORE the abdication of the Romanov dynasty. So did her niece Ekaterina Ioannovna, princess of the Imperial Blood, in the late thirties, when she married Ruggero, marchese (in italian, or marquess, it means the same,) Farace di Villaforesta, for their children. Neither of these children : Nicoletta, Fiammetta and Ivan Farace ever considered themselves as heirs.... but Ivan, now marchese Farace di Villaforesta, is an active honorary member of the Family Association since his mother passed away in 2007. Like HM the King of Greece, Prince Michael of Kent, and other members of the Family, not necessarily of the Dynasty. If Konstantine was not equal to Tatiana Konstantinovna, Leonida was not equal to Vladimir Kirilovich.( Who was not a grand duke himself, according to the Laws, it was a "titre de courtoisie"...). This is simple and clear . Grand dukes, during the last years of the Empire, were only brothers, children and grand children of the Emperor. The sons of GD Konstantine Konstantinovich were born as grand dukes, but became princes when the Laws were modified, before the end or the monarchy. The last Emperor was GD Mikhail for a very short time, and all the grand dukes and grand duchesses are now dead, alas. Sources : myself, marchesa Farace di Villaforesta— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2a01:cb11:192:3f00:cc03:3d6f:ac49:d639 (talk • contribs)

Antarctica

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Developing Countries WikiContest

Starting this July, we will see a new contest on the scene - the Developing Countries WikiContest (WP:DCWC)! Think of it as a WikiCup but only for articles and media on developing countries.

Competitors may submit GAs, GTs, FAs, FTs, FLs, FPs, and DYK and ITN entries from/on developing countries to gain points and climb the leaderboard. Points are also awarded to those who review GAs, FAs and FLs.

Russia is listed as a developing country for the purposes of this contest and articles related to it are eligible to be submitted for points, so I encourage everyone here to sign up and compete with editors from around the world to create high-quality content!

Append your name to the DCWC signup page today!

Best wishes, Wilhelm Tell DCCXLVI (^{talk to me!}/_{my edits}) 07:05, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

Dmitri Shostakovich has an RfC

Dmitri Shostakovich has an RfC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 18:59, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Are there any Cultural Russian Orthodox Christians around?

In a moment of idle meddling, I am inviting those who qualify to join the ranks Category:Cultural Russian Orthodox Wikipedians! - Altenmann >talk 17:36, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Russian Orthodoxy#Requested move 6 June 2024

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Talk:Anti-Normanism#Requested_move_22_May_2024

Please join. - Altenmann >talk 16:45, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

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Princess Olga Dolgorouky

Hello everyone,

If any AfC reviewers have the time and inclination, I have an article Draft:Princess Olga Dolgorouky, which is waiting for review. Princess Olga was a member of the Russian Imperial family, and was among those saved when George V sent HMS Marlborough to the Balkans to save what was left of the family of the Tsar, following the 1917 revolution.

Thanks in advance,

Mac Edmunds (talk) 07:55, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

@Mac Edmunds: Sorry, colleague, the sources of your article are based on tabloids (which don't have their facts straight) and as such they cannot establish the notability of the person. Notability is not inherited, and being a wife is not enough. And she was not member of "Russian imperial family", simply member of Russian nobility. As for her being "princess: Her father was knyaz, which is confusingly translated as "prince" and not necessarily mean belonging to ruling family, simply a higher rank of nobility. Summarizing my opinion, she was a socialite and noble from the suffering Russia and hence popped up in news, but I dont think this makes her notable per wikipedia standards. - Altenmann >talk 17:10, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

translation correction?

RussianAbortionPoster

This 1925 poster at Abortion#Unsafe_abortion is currently translated as "Miscarriages induced by either grandma or self-taught midwives not only maim the woman, they also often lead to death." An IP has come into the talk page and said a better translation would be "Miscarriages induced by either self-taught midwives or obstetricians not only maim the woman, they also often lead to death." Obviously this is a pretty major difference in intended meaning. Can anyone help? Thanks! Valereee (talk) 15:50, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

Yes the first translation is wrong, but the second is not good either. "Babka" in this context means folk healer woman, who often act as midwive. "Akusherka" is a "false friend": "akusher" does mean obstetrician, but the feminine form "akusherka" means midwife nurse. So the correct corresponding piece would be "by a self-taught or professional midwife". - Altenmann >talk 16:53, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, @Altenmann! Valereee (talk) 21:14, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

@Altenmann, @Valereee. The English-language meaning of the revised translation is very different from the meaning of the Soviet poster. The background for the poster is that in 1925 abortion was legal in the USSR. (The history section of the abortion article mentions the Soviet legalization of abortion in 1920.) The poster warns women against the use of informal abortion providers, namely, midwives and what (in the African American dialect of English) are sometimes called "granny midwives" (older women who perform some midwife functions). Nothing in the Russian indicates "self-taught", which in current English usage means learning from books or videos. Typically they were not self-taught, but rather learned from the older generation of midwives, through woman-to-woman instruction or apprenticeship. Nothing in the Russian indicates "professional" or "obstetrician", both of which in current English usage indicate accreditation by the recognized medical establishment. The Soviet poster was not a warning about abortion performed by credentialed doctors, that is, obstetricians.

Please note that, according to WP:BRD and WP:ONUS, the stable version of the caption should remain while this matter is being resolved here or on the article talk-page. Thanks. NightHeron (talk) 10:11, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

This should be discussed at the article talk page, @NightHeron. I'll answer there. Valereee (talk) 14:46, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:BRICS#Requested move 23 June 2024

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Help with an article in Russian?

Hi, could someone who knows Russian help me with a cite-check of a journal article that I think is in Russian? It's cited in the article on Assault. The third paragraph in the lead has this sentence: "When this distinction is observed, battery refers to the actual bodily contact, whereas assault refers to a credible threat or attempt to cause battery." One of the cites in support of this statement, currently cite 9, is this: "Romanenko, Ya.O.; Marin, M.A.; Riabko, A.K.; Kartseva, A.S.; Silkina, M.V.; Zeninskaya, N.A.; Shemyakin, I.G.; Dyatlov, I.A.; Firstova, V.V. (2021). "Toxin neutralizing activity of monoclonal antibodies against Bacillus anthracis lethal toxin". Immunologiya. 42 (3): 232–242" From the title of the article and the name of the journal, I assume this is an article about immunology, not the criminal offence of assault, but the article itself is in Russian, I think, so I can't check it myself. Could someone take a look at it? If it has nothing to do with assault or battery, I would want to remove it from the Assault article. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 02:27, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

@Mr Serjeant Buzfuz: Nonsense ref. removed. But here is a disturbing sign: I checked thru history to Ugwuowo samuel (talk · contribs)'s edits on MArhc 2w 2023. This user was caught on pumping chatbot-generated content into "Physica abuse" which was reverted. Perhaps maybe you have thoroughly review "Assault" as well and do the same. - Altenmann >talk 04:51, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

P.S., see more in my post Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)#Chatbots_assault?. - Altenmann >talk 05:39, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

You can ignore that reference in Russian. Whereas foreign citations are welcome in English Wikipedia when there are no sources at all in English of equivalent quality as foreign ones, for the Assault article, there are hundreds, or thousands, of sources that are as good, or better, than the Russian one. This means that you not only can, but should use English sources exclusively for this article. The fact that it is about immunology is just bizarre. Mathglot (talk) 08:46, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

That is a wrong advice. The legal definition of "assault" may differ for various countries. - Altenmann >talk 15:59, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for comments and action, everyone. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 03:26, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

Young Russia (liberal movement)

I just created a stub for Young Russia (liberal movement). Any help with expansion would be appreciated. Thriley (talk) 20:56, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

Should Tabasaran people be double-checked?

A relatively new editor who identifies as Tabasaran has added a huge amount of content to Tabasaran people in the past three months. When I sought to compare the new content with the corresponding article on Russian Wikipedia, I found that this user has been blocked indefinitely on ru-wiki for repeatedly deleting referenced content on articles related to Tabasarans, typically to remove any mention of links between Tabasarans and Azerbaijanis. I won't rush to judge an editor just because of their behavior on another wiki, but I do think that someone from this project should double-check the article. Huntthetroll (talk) 03:13, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

I reverted article to old reasonably good version add added one more waring to user's page. If they continue ignoring our rules, we may reqest block. - Altenmann >talk 03:54, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Second Northern War#Requested move 23 June 2024

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Leonid Brezhnev has an RfC

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Requested move at Talk:International Criminal Court arrest warrants for Vladimir Putin and Maria Lvova-Belova#Requested move 26 June 2024

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Russian Hawaii

There's a missing article, Russian Hawaii or Russian colonization of Hawaii, which should summarize the at least three Russian settlements and fortifications that were historically there. This is briefly covered (little more than bare mention) at Russian colonization of North America, but Hawaii is not in North America, even if presently an overseas state of a country the capital of which is in North America. PS: Actually, I guess it should be Hawaiʻi, since the Hawaii spelling was imposed by the US later (and the ʻokina is not a ' or ‘ or ’ apostrophe/quotemark).  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  21:50, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

It was a brief unsuccessful stunt detailed in Schäffer affair; redirected. Maybe later I will interlink it in Wikipedia. - Altenmann >talk 20:18, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

P.S. It looks like Russian Hawaii must be written up, because besides colonization thetre is Eastern Orthodoxy in Hawaii. - Altenmann >talk 20:21, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

There are other pages: Russian Fort Elizabeth and Fort Alexander (Hawaii) - from Schäffer. - Altenmann >talk 20:21, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Expanding Conversations about Important Things

I am not an expert in the Russian language, so I think I need help to fill the empty table cells in the list of Conversations about Important Things subjects, if we are to maintain the table-based list format for the 2024–2025 school year. Best, --Minoa (talk) 05:23, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

War crimes in the Russian invasion of Ukraine has an RfC

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Wikiproject

Would anyone be interested in joining a sub project of WP:Anthropology on oral tradition? Kowal2701 (talk) 19:30, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Kaspersky bans and allegations of Russian government ties#Requested move 23 July 2024

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Soviet republics in infoboxes

Following this recent discussion for Soviet republics in infoboxes, most Russian biographical articles who were born and died in the Soviet Union, have "Russian SFSR" per Template:Infobox person/doc, as well as for Ukrainian people.

For example, many people born in the Soviet Union, including Vladimir Putin, Volodymyr Zelenskyy, Alexander Lukashenko, etc. Other people died in the Soviet Union, including Vladimir Lenin, Joseph Stalin, Lyudmila Pavlichenko, etc. 49.150.12.163 (talk) 04:14, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

So what? - Altenmann >talk 04:28, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

Unlike historical countries, like states of the German Empire, Austria-Hungary and SFR Yugoslavia have subordinate countries. For example, Josip Broz Tito was born in "Kumrovec, Kingdom of Croatia-Slavonia, Austria-Hungary," and died in "Ljubljana, SR Slovenia, SFR Yugoslavia" as shown in infobox. 49.150.12.163 (talk) 06:33, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

• Note that I've rangeblocked the OP for block evasion.-- Ponyo^{bons mots} 16:30, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for First Partition of Poland

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Requested move at Talk:Aeroflot Flight 31 (1955)#Requested move 7 August 2024

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Evgeniy Poddubny

A telegram post citing Duma member Mikhail Delyagin says that Evgeniy Poddubny has died. However, I haven't seen any third party news reports on this yet. The Russian version of Wikipedia cites he has died however. Waiting for confirmaiton, first from Russian language sources. If anyone has seen any, please add them. Harizotoh9 (talk) 18:45, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

That's the problem with modern media: rushing sensationalist claims. BBC updated its online article Befor it wrote "he died ... citing unnamed source", but now it says he survived. Meaning "third party" means nothing. - Altenmann >talk 20:31, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

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