Talk:The Unit

Broadcast in Mexico

This show is broadcast in Mexico by FOX channel in Cable and Satelite. It airs Mondays at 22:00, but I have no reference on when it premiered. http://www.mundofox.com/series/the_unit/ Zunito 04:38, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Ratings

What's the best way to mention the terrific ratings that 'The Unit' got? --Mercury1 17:29, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Provide proof. Link to Nielsen ratings or reports of said ratings. That's my $0.02 American... Rockhound 02:03, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Factual error

Just wanted to report one factual error I noticed in the show. I do not know if that could be incorporated into the article or not. In the Episode 10 of the Season 1, Jonas Blane (Dennis Haybert) tells the telephone operator that her original location where she is talking from is Peshawar, India. Peshawar is located in Pakistan not India. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chewy81 (talk • contribs)

Link Correction

Changed 2 references to Special Forces to direct to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Army_Special_Forces as they are refering in that case to US Army Special Forces (Green Berets). I left one pointing to Special Forces as it is more a discussion about the missions and may be the more general use. --BenWoodruff 21:00, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

PDAs/cell phones

What type of PDAs/cell phones do the members of The Unit generally use? Might be an interesting piece of trivia. Also, is anyone familiar with what that exact "ringtone" is? I can't say it reminds me of any other cell phone.

The PDA Haysbert uses to track the UAV looks like it's a clean up iPAQ with no logo, might be wrong about that though. The ringtone does indeed sound familiar. I think it's from Splinter Cell, which might be another inside reference, since Haysbert actually did some voice acting for Splinter Cell K.satirli 07:16, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Cystal and Jeremy

These two characters have been in most episodes of the second season... shouldnt they be noted? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Paulley (talk • contribs) 12:41, 1 February 2007 (UTC).

GREY AND WILLIAMS (RANK)

Grey and Williams are mid-level operators. They wouldn't have the same rank as Brown, a newbie to the Unit. Unless somebody has solid evidence I haven't seen proving that Williams and Grey aren't Sergeants First Class, I'm changing their rank to reflect their seniority to Brown. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.174.190.247 (talk • contribs)

I removed their ranks altogether as it is unknown what their rank is. I don't recall it being mentioned in any of the episodes. -- Gogo Dodo 05:58, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

I agree and was gonna say something about it... Nicht Nein! 09:51, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

They're all at least Sergeants, that's for sure. In s2e17 Jonas defines his replacement order as follows: Gerhardt, Grey, Williams and then Brown. Further on only Mack had one the opportunity to command a own squad but declined hence Grey and Williams are below Master Sergeant and probably above Staff Sergeant and probably Sergeants First Class. However either Grey and Williams have no rank prefix or both should have the generic Sergeant prefix. Now Grey has nothing and Williams just Sergeant. SoN --212.41.85.34 00:36, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

In s1e8 during interrogation Williams stated he was a Sergeant, yes this could just be writer mess up since in the episodes they are addressed as sergeant per Army way, but this is the only time where he would have be referred to as his actual rank. I did watch s2e17 last night and remember that statement well, but this is an unconventional unit and rank has little, and unit experience has more, to do with whom can better replace Blane and Gerhardt. Nicht Nein! 02:21, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Explain to me how the newbie to the team would have a higher rank than two seniors.

They're higher than Brown, lower than Gerhardt.

The only logical answer is Sergeant First Class.

And trivia tidbit-in the Army, all sergeants from E-5 to First Sergeant (E-8) are referred to as "sergeant." First Sergeants and Sergeants Major are called by their full rank.

Believe me-I know what I'm talking about. Grey and Williams are Sergeants First Class. Steven Hildreth, Jr. 19:26, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but just because you have real-life experience doesn't mean that you can definitively say what a television show is trying to do. For all we know they could completely eschew standard grade seniority in favour of their own system...we just don't know. It is precisely for that reason that Wikipedia demands that we only include information when it has been implicitely stated on the show or can be visually confirmed on the show (otherwise, this is called original research. I guarantee most people would agree with your summary of the situation, and I do as well (military as well), but it just isn't information we can use at this time. -- Huntster ^{T • @ • C} 20:05, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Then what about the book which the show is based upon? It corroborates what I've explained. Steven Hildreth, Jr. 20:37, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

While the show is based on the book, they are not the same thing, and thus cannot be used as references for each other. It is based on the book, not a direct copy. I'm not trying to be a hardass, just trying to point out Wikipedia policy issues. -- Huntster ^{T • @ • C} 20:39, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, if policy is dictating that editors can't use common sense, can we at least remove the rank from Williams altogether? I think, given the fact that they've only called him "Sergeant" and that we don't know what kind of sergeant he is, Williams and his dossier could be devoid of reference to rank altogether, like Grey's. Steven Hildreth, Jr. 00:25, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Williams' rank was not made Sergeant based on the way he is addressed, it is based on his answer during interrogation. A Lieutenant could enter the Unit and would still be a newbie to other old-timers. All Sergeants from Sergeant to Master Sergeant are addressed as Sergeant in the Army, so this would not be a good way to come about Williams' rank. Nicht Nein! 09:07, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

I give up. I did learn one thing, though-bureaucracy and rules don't take into account what makes sense. Have fun editing the pages. Steven Hildreth, Jr. 04:21, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

You do not need to be senior in rank to be senior; your point is pretty childish in my opinion. It is a possibility that Grey and Williams are both E-7 but this is an encyclopedic entry, both can be at E-6 and still have seniority. As this is a TV show their rank might not have even been decided on yet. I agree that removing Williams rank would be a good idea since they could have messed up in the lines for that scene. Nicht Nein! 06:17, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

In Episode 2x17 Johnny B. Good, Blane refers to Grey and Williams as "Sergeants Grey and Williams." So if you're going to use the generic soldier title to give Williams rank, with this reference, you'll have to do the same with Grey.Steven Hildreth, Jr. 05:30, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

That is not the case "generic soldier title" was not used in determining Williams' rank. Nicht Nein! 21:25, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

24 related trivia

During an episode in Season 1, the team is tasked with the mission to protect a guy named "Salazar". The funny thing is that a person named "Ramon Salazar" was one of the adversaries of Dennis Haysbert in Season 3 of "24". See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24_%28season_3%29 . I think this should be worked into the article too.K.satirli 07:16, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Unless we have a statement from one of the creative people on one of these shows that says that there is a relationship, we can't put it in. Val42 02:47, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

It's trivia. I'm not saying there is a relationship, it's probably just a little easter egg they put in. The only thing that is really confirmed is that Haysbert appears in both shows. K.satirli 07:16, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Season 3

Any word on a season 3 or cancellation? Cburnett 01:05, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Nothing so far, but it's a pretty safe bet, gaining high ratings all the time K.satirli 16:45, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Goofs

In S02x02 after 38 minutes, when the team rescues their "fallen" comrade, a camera man is clearly visible on the right hand side of the screen. K.satirli 15:53, 8 April 2007 (UTC)