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::::Thanks, @[[User:Willondon|Willondon]]. I [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Permalink/1221236187#Jim_Traber invited] the editor who originally added it to join the discussion but they've only ever made 2 edits and haven't responded. [[User:Schazjmd|<span style="color:#066293;">'''Schazjmd'''</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Schazjmd|<span style="color:#738276;">''(talk)''</span>]] 23:03, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
::::Thanks, @[[User:Willondon|Willondon]]. I [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Permalink/1221236187#Jim_Traber invited] the editor who originally added it to join the discussion but they've only ever made 2 edits and haven't responded. [[User:Schazjmd|<span style="color:#066293;">'''Schazjmd'''</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Schazjmd|<span style="color:#738276;">''(talk)''</span>]] 23:03, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
:::::Hi, I apologize, I have not checked my wikipedia account in some time to contribute to this thread. It is a matter of public record that one of his children, Beau Traber, emancipated himself from his father as a minor and can be found on the Oklahoma online court case search (https://www.oscn.net/dockets/GetCaseInformation.aspx?db=cleveland&number=CJ-2008-1040&cmid=407174). [[User:Icarus2999|Icarus2999]] ([[User talk:Icarus2999|talk]]) 19:29, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
:::::Hi, I apologize, I have not checked my wikipedia account in some time to contribute to this thread. It is a matter of public record that one of his children, Beau Traber, emancipated himself from his father as a minor and can be found on the Oklahoma online court case search (https://www.oscn.net/dockets/GetCaseInformation.aspx?db=cleveland&number=CJ-2008-1040&cmid=407174). [[User:Icarus2999|Icarus2999]] ([[User talk:Icarus2999|talk]]) 19:29, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
::::::@[[User:Icarus2999|Icarus2999]], see [[WP:BLPPRIMARY]]: {{tq|" Do '''''not''''' use trial transcripts and other court records, or other public documents, to support assertions about a living person."}} [[User:Schazjmd|<span style="color:#066293;">'''Schazjmd'''</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Schazjmd|<span style="color:#738276;">''(talk)''</span>]] 19:31, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
:::Yeah random IPs always have the project's best interest in mind. This is why mandatory registration is needed.-[[User:UCO2009bluejay|UCO2009bluejay]] ([[User talk:UCO2009bluejay|talk]]) 22:50, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
:::Yeah random IPs always have the project's best interest in mind. This is why mandatory registration is needed.-[[User:UCO2009bluejay|UCO2009bluejay]] ([[User talk:UCO2009bluejay|talk]]) 22:50, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

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Commercial

I heard a rumor that, while playing for Baltimore, he made a commercial for a car dealership where he said "Hi, I'm Jim "Big Stick" Traber." Can anyone verify this. God, I gotta see that commercial. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.3.5.130 (talk) 02:59, 1 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Time as Dbacks color analyst

I know that Jim was the Dbacks color analyst for the 2002 season and possibly the 2003 season. Is there anyone that can figure that out and edit it in correctly? I don't know the exact beginning and ending seasons or else I would edit it in. Jim, you gotta be one of the few people who would visit this page, you should edit it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.230.137.165 (talk) 04:05, 28 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Took care of it. And no, I'm not Jim Traber.  ;) Kithira (talk) 12:33, 28 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Relationship with sons

The text Traber is estranged from both his biological children. has been added to the article multiple times, cited to this article. The source says

Unfortunately, I don’t have a good relationship with either one of my sons right now. It’s the saddest thing in my life. Unfortunately, my ex-wife did a lot of things to hurt my relationship. I’m not going to blame it all on her. I didn’t do the best. I pray about that every day. I pray that it changes. It really is a sad part of my life.

Not having a "good relationship" isn't accurately summarized by "estranged". It's also from a 10-year-old interview. I question whether it's WP:DUE to even mention, but if it is kept, I suggest: In 2014, Traber stated that he does not "have a good relationship" with his sons. Schazjmd (talk) 17:05, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In my opinion it's WP:UNDUE, especially considering this is going back ten years. If it's to be included at all, I agree that it needs the more accurate description from the source: "does not have a good relationship". signed, Willondon (talk) 18:12, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Traber is a very outspoken figure in the OKC radio scene. He attracts a lot of flak on air. I think a level of page protection against random IPs/new users is the only way to shut this down. They are trying to attack his character.-UCO2009bluejay (talk) 22:14, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There hasn't been enough persistent disruptive editing for an admin to consider protection. Schazjmd (talk) 22:24, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
And assuming other editors' motives is not assuming good faith. It's not needed anyway. I reviewed the ten year old mention of where he said "does not have a good relationship". Does that mean they only communicate through brief congratulation texts on birthdays and holidays? Attend family functions on occasion, but never share a dinner table lest politics be mentioned? Talk occasionally but always overcast by unresolved issues? It doesn't add anything to inform the article. So I removed it again. signed, Willondon (talk) 22:48, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, @Willondon. I invited the editor who originally added it to join the discussion but they've only ever made 2 edits and haven't responded. Schazjmd (talk) 23:03, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, I apologize, I have not checked my wikipedia account in some time to contribute to this thread. It is a matter of public record that one of his children, Beau Traber, emancipated himself from his father as a minor and can be found on the Oklahoma online court case search (https://www.oscn.net/dockets/GetCaseInformation.aspx?db=cleveland&number=CJ-2008-1040&cmid=407174). Icarus2999 (talk) 19:29, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Icarus2999, see WP:BLPPRIMARY: " Do not use trial transcripts and other court records, or other public documents, to support assertions about a living person." Schazjmd (talk) 19:31, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah random IPs always have the project's best interest in mind. This is why mandatory registration is needed.-UCO2009bluejay (talk) 22:50, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]