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:I agree that ''Wicked'' needs a lot of clean-up, and streamlining, but, as I pointed out to Z1720 elsewhere, while [[WP:RS/P]] states that BroadwayWorld is not a reliable source "for biographies of living persons", it is a standard source for use in musicals for basic production information like production dates and casts (though ''Playbill'', IBDB, etc. would be preferred). -- [[User:Ssilvers|Ssilvers]] ([[User talk:Ssilvers|talk]]) 04:32, 14 September 2024 (UTC) |
:I agree that ''Wicked'' needs a lot of clean-up, and streamlining, but, as I pointed out to Z1720 elsewhere, while [[WP:RS/P]] states that BroadwayWorld is not a reliable source "for biographies of living persons", it is a standard source for use in musicals for basic production information like production dates and casts (though ''Playbill'', IBDB, etc. would be preferred). -- [[User:Ssilvers|Ssilvers]] ([[User talk:Ssilvers|talk]]) 04:32, 14 September 2024 (UTC) |
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::I agree with the above and, looking at the article might I suggest to remove from the cast list the "second US tour" and "second UK tour" casts columns? Although I know it's important to know all casts of Wicked, it has now been 20 years of this production, so removing these columns might leave space for productions where Wicked has never been staged, for example? [[User:Musicalge3k5|Musicalge3k5]] ([[User talk:Musicalge3k5|talk]]) 16:36, 27 September 2024 (UTC) |
::I agree with the above and, looking at the article might I suggest to remove from the cast list the "second US tour" and "second UK tour" casts columns? Although I know it's important to know all casts of Wicked, it has now been 20 years of this production, so removing these columns might leave space for productions where Wicked has never been staged, for example? [[User:Musicalge3k5|Musicalge3k5]] ([[User talk:Musicalge3k5|talk]]) 16:36, 27 September 2024 (UTC) |
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:::The cast tables should contain only the original production and long-running, major market productions. The Productions section should name the stars and notable players in all the noteworthy productions (subject to [[WP:DUE]]). Alternatively, we could use the more efficient cast table method used in ''[[Carousel (musical)|Carousel]]'', a featured article -- [[User:Ssilvers|Ssilvers]] ([[User talk:Ssilvers|talk]]) 18:24, 27 September 2024 (UTC) |
:::The cast tables should contain only the original production and long-running, major market productions. The Productions section should name the stars and notable players in all the noteworthy productions (subject to [[WP:DUE]]). Alternatively, we could use the more efficient cast table method used in ''[[Carousel (musical)|Carousel]]'', a featured article. In any case, every person named in the cast table should first be named in the Productions section together with a [[WP:RS]] verifying that the person actually played the role. -- [[User:Ssilvers|Ssilvers]] ([[User talk:Ssilvers|talk]]) 18:24, 27 September 2024 (UTC) |
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There are uncited sections, particularily about the production's history during COVID-19 restrictions. The "Movie" section has large blockquotes which should be summarised instead due to copyright concerns. The article also has over 10,000 words of prose, which WP:TOOBIG states should probably be spun-out or reduced. BroadwayWorld is used as a citation numerous times, which WP:RS/P states is an unreliable source. Z1720 (talk) 02:40, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- I agree that Wicked needs a lot of clean-up, and streamlining, but, as I pointed out to Z1720 elsewhere, while WP:RS/P states that BroadwayWorld is not a reliable source "for biographies of living persons", it is a standard source for use in musicals for basic production information like production dates and casts (though Playbill, IBDB, etc. would be preferred). -- Ssilvers (talk) 04:32, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- I agree with the above and, looking at the article might I suggest to remove from the cast list the "second US tour" and "second UK tour" casts columns? Although I know it's important to know all casts of Wicked, it has now been 20 years of this production, so removing these columns might leave space for productions where Wicked has never been staged, for example? Musicalge3k5 (talk) 16:36, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- The cast tables should contain only the original production and long-running, major market productions. The Productions section should name the stars and notable players in all the noteworthy productions (subject to WP:DUE). Alternatively, we could use the more efficient cast table method used in Carousel, a featured article. In any case, every person named in the cast table should first be named in the Productions section together with a WP:RS verifying that the person actually played the role. -- Ssilvers (talk) 18:24, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- I agree with the above and, looking at the article might I suggest to remove from the cast list the "second US tour" and "second UK tour" casts columns? Although I know it's important to know all casts of Wicked, it has now been 20 years of this production, so removing these columns might leave space for productions where Wicked has never been staged, for example? Musicalge3k5 (talk) 16:36, 27 September 2024 (UTC)