Talk:Adolescence

Wiki Education assignment: LLIB 1115 - Intro to Information Research

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 11 January 2022 and 6 May 2022. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Hronnie223 (article contribs).

Promoting positive changes in adolescents

I think the section on "Promoting positive changes in adolescents" could've given more information on youth interventions and what types are available. This section focuses on how youth are very susceptible to drug use and peer pressure, but this section should also provide the positive effects of adolescents and programs that can help adolescents. 18:25, 1 October 2024 (UTC)~ Avenkolline (talk) 18:25, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

The Article Has Been Revised and Updated to Make it More Concise and Accurate.

I left the article with a more up-to-date view of adolescence, I didn't quote the "WHO" because the definition of adolescence adopted by it dates back to the 20th century, but we are already in the 21st century and even with all the scientific discoveries and the international media recognition surrounding these scientific discoveries, the WHO and the UN have not chosen to change their outdated definition of this complex phase of life called "ADOLESCENCE". I therefore believe that we should look at things from angles based on scientifically proven and up-to-date criteria and not from angles that are already outdated and contradict current events. Wiki7Hell (talk) 23:09, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

Blog posts and homework help sites are not reliable sources. It is better to stick to high-quality academic sources than to add 'up-to-date' blog fluff. MrOllie (talk) 16:35, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, but I think you are mistaken, because the sources cited in the article are organizational sources and scientific articles. If you think that government and organizational sources are unreliable sources and do not comply with Wikipedia's guidelines, you are mistaken. Wiki7Hell (talk) 17:35, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

I can read the article history just fine, you clearly added blogs and homework help sites. see diff MrOllie (talk) 22:18, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

And now you're adding obvious copyright violations. MrOllie (talk) 19:26, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

@MrOllie Wow, so I can't use scientific articles, nor blog sources, nor any kind of links or reliable sources. I think you're the ones who are taking away the rights of other editors with your lies and abuse of power. Get real, administrator, because the edit you support so much is all wrong and completely outside Wikipedia's rules. You seem more like a bunch of people looking for edit fights than real administrators. This is a disgrace. Wiki7Hell (talk) 20:07, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

You can't copy and paste from anything into Wikipedia, from any source. If you keep doing that I expect you're going to get blocked indefinitely. Respecting the rights of authors and avoiding plagiarism is important and a basic requirement to work on this site. MrOllie (talk) 20:08, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

@MrOllie

Again I repeat. Did you at least read my edit and review the articles mentioned? It seems not, I used my own words to edit the file according to verified sources, and I also followed all possible Wikipedia rules. You are a disgrace to Wikipedia and to all other users and should not be an administrator since that role is not yours. I hope you are banned indefinitely from Wikipedia. Wiki7Hell (talk) 20:22, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

I did review the articles, yes. That is how I noticed you were violating copyright. You absolutely did not use your own words. This is not the first time you have made talk page claims that are obviously false (https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk:Adolescence&diff=next&oldid=1251530274 like when you denied adding blog links). You have to actually follow Wikipedia's policies, not violate them and then claim otherwise in subsequent talk page posts. MrOllie (talk) 20:24, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

@MrOllie

Okay, administrator, it will be according to my own words, that is, "my own way of speaking", but if my edit is deleted once again, then I will be sure that this is either persecution, or an editing dispute, or abuse of power or some kind of bullying and offense to my rights. This is the last attempt I will make to publish, because if you don't know, each edit takes time and I don't have much time to waste. Wiki7Hell (talk) 00:21, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

Your edit absolutely will be 'deleted once again' if you don't secure WP:CONSENSUS support for your changes. Introducing the same problems over and over is just edit warring. MrOllie (talk) 00:24, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

Also, you keep addressing me as though I am the only person who has reverted you or taken issue with your editing - I am not. MrOllie (talk) 00:26, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

@MrOllie

But you were one of them 😐 Wiki7Hell (talk) 00:28, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

@MrOllie

And what problems really are? Wiki7Hell (talk) 00:26, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

They've been explained to you a few times, here and at your user talk page. Sometimes WP:COPYVIO problems, other times WP:OR problems, and often problems of using unreliable sources (WP:RS). I strongly recommend you slow down and make much smaller edits rather then trying to rewrite the lead sections of articles in one go. MrOllie (talk) 00:31, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

@MrOllie

Thank you for clarifying the issues that I need to correct, I will create an edit according to the rules you gave me. Thank you again for your attention and understanding. Wiki7Hell (talk) 00:56, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

If you were to 'create an edit' on this page without getting consensus support in advance that would be in very poor judgement. You have been specifically warned about this on your user talk page by User:Ohnoitsjamie and you've already been blocked once for disrupting this article. Resuming the same issues again here would be very unwise. MrOllie (talk) 00:58, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

I have rewritten the introduction of the page within the following rules mentioned by you:

• WP:CONSENSUS

• WP:COPYVIO

• WP:OR

• WP:RS

Updated Introduction:

Adolescence (from the Latin adulescere: to grow) was originally defined by G. Stanley Hall in his treatise on adolescence as a phase between childhood and adulthood of "storm and stress", from the age of 14 to 24[1]. The International Association for Adolescent Health (IAAH) broadened this definition, considering adolescence to be a multifaceted phase from 10 to 24 years of age that encompasses the transition from childhood to adulthood, involving physical growth, sexual, cognitive, social and emotional development[2] [3].

This phase of life brings with it the experiences of childhood, influencing the future trajectories of each adolescent, but often these experiences will not determine the young person's future, because adolescence is often marked by great adaptability, with opportunities for change, resilience, recovery and development. It is these interactions that mark adolescence out as a unique period for healthy and positive development trajectories.[4]

The adolescent years between the ages of 10 and 24 are years of discovery and identity construction. Neuroscientist Sarah-Jayne Blakemore points out: "That in adolescence our sense of self undergoes profound development as we try to establish ourselves in the outside world."[5]

References:

1. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2352464218300221

2. https://iaah.org/education-training-healthcare-providers/

3. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK545476/

4. https://iaah.org/

Make sure it's fit to be published. Wiki7Hell (talk) 21:02, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

⚠️I would like to point out that the numerology of the fonts in "references" does not match the blue numerology marked next to each paragraph of the text, because this sample introduction is just a prototype, but if you press the blue button next to each paragraph you will be redirected to the correct fonts.⚠️ Wiki7Hell (talk) 21:07, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

This has the same plagiarism of the sources as your last effort. A WP:CLOSEPARAPHRASE is still a copyright violation - you are clearly copying text from https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK545476/. MrOllie (talk) 21:41, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

Abuse of Administration

Dude, what's your problem? You keep reverting my edits, as if your edit were perfect, but if you analyze your edit you will see that it is full of errors, disconnects and impressions, including missing sources in some contexts of your edit, including on the page about "Cognitive Development", in addition to inaccurate information at the beginning of the article where it says that "Some definitions start as early as 10 and end as late as 30." which is not true at all because the maximum age limit for adolescence is 25 years in all scientific articles, and besides, no scientific article defines adolescence as from 10 to 30 years. In "theoretical perspectives" you even mention artificial intelligence, something that has nothing to do with adolescence, there are several paragraphs without any connection and not even connections. Dude, get real, if you think I'm here to fight over edits, you're very wrong, I'm here to help correct the errors and inaccuracies contained in your edit. What you are doing is taking advantage of your administrator power to create inaccurate and decontextualized articles, and in your opinion, that is perfect. It does not seem that as a Wikipedia administrator you are willing to contribute to an accurate, consistent and informative Wikipedia, but rather to create edit disputes. Unfortunately, Wikipedia is becoming an embarrassment because of administrators of this type. Wiki7Hell (talk) 19:53, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

Please read WP:CONSENSUS. As of yet, you don't have one to make the edits you are proposing. This article has a long history of disruptive editors arguing over age definitions, which is why there is more scrutiny around the sorts of large edits you've made. Please consider following the instructions at Wikipedia:Edit_requests and starting with a few sentences or a paragraph. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 11:34, 20 October 2024 (UTC)