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Lil JoJo

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Recreation of previously deleted article, lacks WP:MUSICBIO, WP:BASIC and WP:NOTABILITY. Darrion N. Brown 🙂 (my talk page / my sandbox) 08:30, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians and Illinois. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 10:48, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Article has dozens and dozens of independent sources and a variety of such. Proves notability by showing how his death and influence caused major effects in the gang war in Chicago. RowanJ LP (talk) 13:23, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - I'm personally undecided but will point out that the article might be viable if reconstructed around his murder and his status as the victim, because that received a lot of reliable coverage in Chicago news as a symptom of gang violence. That might require re-titling the article as Murder of Joseph J. Coleman or something similar. His musicial achievements as Lil JoJo are minimal and not notable enough for a musician-based article. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 13:44, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep & Rename - I am a major contributor to this article. I think there is definitely a justified argument for keeping the article because his murder was a significant event that received major coverage and discussion. His music is foundational to the Chicago drill subgenre, but there is an argument that that alone may not justify designating an entire article for it (given the lack of references about it). I agree with Doomsdayer520's comment above that the page should be re-titled as Murder of Joseph J. Coleman.
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Skynxnex (talk) 14:06, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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 *'''Keep''': Article has dozens and dozens of independent sources and a variety of such. Proves notability by showing how his death and influence caused major effects in the gang war in Chicago. [[User:RowanJ LP|RowanJ LP]] ([[User talk:RowanJ LP|talk]]) 13:23, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
 *'''Comment''' - I'm personally undecided but will point out that the article might be viable if reconstructed around his murder and his status as the victim, because that received a lot of reliable coverage in Chicago news as a symptom of gang violence. That might require re-titling the article as [[Murder of Joseph J. Coleman]] or something similar. His musicial achievements as Lil JoJo are minimal and not notable enough for a musician-based article. ---<span style="font-family: Calibri">[[User:doomsdayer520|<b style="color:#9932CC"><small>DOOMSDAYER</small>520</b>]]<small> ([[User talk:Doomsdayer520|TALK]]&#124;[[Special:Contributions/Doomsdayer520|CONTRIBS]]) </small></span> 13:44, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
+*'''Keep & Rename''' - I am a major contributor to this article. I think there is definitely a justified argument for keeping the article because his murder was a significant event that received major coverage and discussion. His music is foundational to the Chicago drill subgenre, but there is an argument that that alone may not justify designating an entire article for it (given the lack of references about it). I agree with [[User: Doomsdayer520|Doomsdayer520]]'s comment above that the page should be re-titled as [[Murder of Joseph J. Coleman]].
 *<small class="delsort-notice">Note:  This discussion has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/People|list of People-related deletion discussions]]. [[User:Skynxnex|Skynxnex]] ([[User talk:Skynxnex|talk]]) 14:06, 23 October 2024 (UTC)</small>