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Work list

I notice that the work list within this article has grown and grown, and yet there is still a note at the head of the section directing the reader to the complete List of compositions by Heitor Villa-Lobos. I believe it is usual in cases like this to retain only a short list of the most important or characteristic compositions, or even to list only the most important compositions not already discussed in the article text. What do other editors think?—Jerome Kohl (talk) 18:40, 1 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. The List of compositions by Heitor Villa-Lobos info should not be duplicated. --Klein zach 02:47, 10 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Done I've now removed the duplicated sections, moving some details to the list. --Klein zach 03:04, 10 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox

Is there a possibility to add an infobox for this article?--Mishae (talk) 05:48, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

There is always such a possibility, but I personally oppose such a thing, in agreement with the objections raised on Wikipedia:WikiProject_Composers#Biographical_infoboxes.—Jerome Kohl (talk) 07:05, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

How many people object?--Mishae (talk) 15:08, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest you read this guideline, and this one, and also this one, and then re-phrase your question.—Jerome Kohl (talk) 23:19, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I miss infoboxes, and other important composers (e.g., Bach and Beethoven) have small infoboxes. In my opinion, they are better to see quick facts like birth/death dates/places, and family associations. Hence, there is no consensus about this. --Rudolf Hellmuth (talk) 13:34, 16 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It is true that some other important composers have infoboxes, but many do not (e.g., Palestrina, Monteverdi, Telemann, Vivaldi, Haydn, Mozart, Chopin, Wagner, Schoenberg). You are correct, there is no consensus across Wikipedia on this, and no consensus for change on this article, either.—Jerome Kohl (talk) 18:59, 16 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Tagged 5 links as dead

Jerome Kohl, Tagged 5 links as dead. Cheers! {{u|Checkingfax}} {Talk} 09:37, 19 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

All fixed, now. Thanks for calling my attention to these.—Jerome Kohl (talk) 18:38, 19 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Nepomuceno

Villa-Lobos mostly self-taught but taught some by Alberto Nepomuceno? Schissel | Sound the Note! 17:37, 24 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please expand. I do not find Nepomuceno mentioned anywhere in this article, though his own bio article mentions Villa-Lobos as among his pupils. Is that the point?—Jerome Kohl (talk) 22:27, 24 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, sorry- I think I was in a hurry at the time but should have just waited. Schissel | Sound the Note! 02:18, 25 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Well, then, all we need is a reliable source. Caution is indicated, however, given the long history of "reliable sources" on this composer that have proved less than reliable upon closer examination.—Jerome Kohl (talk) 02:49, 25 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hrm. Appleby (2014) does mention AN’s “controversial” encouragement of Villa-Lobos and helping VL get some scores published but, not the same thing. Will look. Schissel | Sound the Note! 03:14, 25 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Gerard Béhague in New Grove fails to mention Nepomuceno at all. The other obvious places to look are the biographies by Tarasti, Peppercorn, Negwer, and Wright. ~~Volpe's 2001 dissertation discusses Nepomuceno alongside Gomes and Villa-Lobos, but I can't recall whether any teacher-student relationship is mentioned.~~—Jerome Kohl (talk) 03:19, 25 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

OK, scratch Volpe's dissertation from the list of sources to investigate. Despite her extensive discussion of Brazilianism in Nepomuceno's music, she never once mentions that Villa-Lobos studied with him.—Jerome Kohl (talk) 03:29, 25 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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-Could someone please add his choir compositions such as Bendita Sabedoria? It seems they are not yet in the list.  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/24.201.70.116|24.201.70.116]] ([[User talk:24.201.70.116|talk]]) 06:34, 22 March 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
 == Work list ==
 I notice that the work list within this article has grown and grown, and yet there is still a note at the head of the section directing the reader to the complete [[List of compositions by Heitor Villa-Lobos]]. I believe it is usual in cases like this to retain only a short list of the most important or characteristic compositions, or even to list only the most important compositions not already discussed in the article text. What do other editors think?—[[User:Jerome Kohl|Jerome Kohl]] ([[User talk:Jerome Kohl|talk]]) 18:40, 1 November 2010 (UTC)