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: I respect your opinion, as well as opinions of other users (and there were both pro and con) and that is why I made the unblock conditional. Usually I support strong measures against offenders and I agree he has violated some rules, but I do not think Baka is the worst offender around. ←[[User:Humus sapiens|Humus sapiens]] <sup>[[User talk:Humus sapiens|ну]][[Special:Contributions/Humus_sapiens|?]]</sup> 00:34, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
: I respect your opinion, as well as opinions of other users (and there were both pro and con) and that is why I made the unblock conditional. Usually I support strong measures against offenders and I agree he has violated some rules, but I do not think Baka is the worst offender around. ←[[User:Humus sapiens|Humus sapiens]] <sup>[[User talk:Humus sapiens|ну]][[Special:Contributions/Humus_sapiens|?]]</sup> 00:34, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:: Thanks for being reasonable. ←[[User:Humus sapiens|Humus sapiens]] <sup>[[User talk:Humus sapiens|ну]][[Special:Contributions/Humus_sapiens|?]]</sup> 01:18, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:: Thanks for being reasonable. ←[[User:Humus sapiens|Humus sapiens]] <sup>[[User talk:Humus sapiens|ну]][[Special:Contributions/Humus_sapiens|?]]</sup> 01:18, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

==Scheibenzahl==
Hi Rama! Thanks for unblocking me. There is a kind request for you though. Please don't refer to me by my name. In recent past, I have grown more and more conscious about my identity disclosure. Thus, please use my login handle: Scheibenzahl to refer to me. The reason for not publicly announcing my previous account Anupamsr was the same.

Also, it is Scheiben-zahl (shaa-i-ben), Not Schieben-zahl (shee-ben) :) Thanks.--[[User:Scheibenzahl|Scheibenzahl]] 20:17, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

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WikiProject India Newsletter: Volume II, Issue 1 - January 2007

Project News
  • Project tagging:After a brief edit war over the addition of {{WP India}} to ancient archaeological sites now located in Pakistan, a "pre" parameter was introduced to remove the ROI flag from the template for pre-1947 articles, following discussion. After another large discussion on ANI alleging that the automated tagging by Ganeshbot and LostBot was "nationalistic", Ganeshbot was briefly blocked. Currently, the bots are again in action.
  • Swastika on Hinduism templates:Recently, an extremely large and at times emotional debate broke out regarding the use of the swastika on Hinduism templates, given its association with Nazism. As a result, {{Hindu Links}} now contains an educational message about the use of the swastika, as discussion on a more permanent resolution continues.
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accusations

What are you accusing me of? A troll(or more correctly a sock/meatpuppet) starts destoying the work of 3 descent editors and you accuse me.If you dont like my edits then we should get a neutral admin to deal with this.I was enraged by the comments you made on the Pakistan discussion page.If you don't like my style of editing then,let's ask a neutral party to intervine.

Blocking every single user you disagree with will only bring more attention to this issue in my opinion.Nadirali نادرالی

It is incivil of you to accuse me so randomly and without basing your accusations on any evidence.Please see wikipedia no personal attacks policy.Comment on my edits not on my ethnicity or personality.Nadirali نادرالی

Re:Arbcom

We are ready to deal with this.I must ask Fowler and Islescape as witnesses to this.I have evidence not just against you,but the others as well.I feel you made the right decision as this is the only way to resolve this. I am leaving now.I must go for lunch.--Nadirali نادرالی

I have posted my statement.Let's see what you have to throw at us.--Nadirali نادرالی

my alleged attack on Muhajirs

How can you accuse me of attacking Muhajirs when I AM a Muhajir from my father's side.My father is a Muhajir of Azerbaijani ancestry from his mother's side.Therefor he is of Azerbaijani descent born in what is today india. I still stand by my claims that I dislike their mentality of being too conservitive.I once had a Greek tutor who would repeatidly attack his people because he felt they were too arrogant.Does that make him an "anti-Greek".

If you think my comments were attacking Muhajirs,then atleast you can call me a "self-hating Muhajir" rather than an "anti-Muhajir" which is quite ridiculous and somewhat quite laughable :-)--Nadirali نادرالی

Who said I cared about DaGizza's background? If you're reffering to the comment I made on the history of India talkpage,he asked me to post if I regarded him as Pakistani or not and even posted on my talkpage to make sure I'd see his question on the talkpage.

As for my comments regarding the Muhajirs,I commented on the typical Muhajir mentality and the recent terrorism commited by the MQM.And I still stand on my claim the aticle is biased which is why I put the NPOV check on it. It's called commenting on content,not contributers

The reason why we're at arbcom is not because we're disrupting you're agenda.I really don't think we'd be there at this moment if you had not seen Unre4L and I pointing out your abuse of wikipedia as an admin.

Also stop telling me about "giving around my background".I did that for a reason to rebuff your silly accusions about "attacking Muhajirs".--Nadirali نادرالی

Really? Then is it a coincidence that the case was opened roughly 16 minitues after my complaint of your conduct and that 3 users (Unre4L,Fowler and I) agree on that factor.

Tell me does criticising people for being too religious attacking anyone's religion? The only "evidence" you seem to have is words by us twisted to suit your alligations.

I've seen many of the comments you've made to Unre4L and Szhaider as well as Fowler and I find them nowhere close to civility.I really think you should apologise to them.You've apologised to Fowler,but not Unre4L or Szhaider.Now if you'll excuse me there's some articles I'd like to work on.--Nadirali نادرالی

Pakistani civilization

I wrote the article.Don't chase Unre4L,I wrote it.

I don't see who it's hurting as it's an important part of our history.--Nadirali نادرالی

Regarding reverting edits of Kazi Nazrul Islam Page

Dear Rama Arrow,

Peace and greetings.

This is Dr. Mohammad Omar Farooq. I am a Nazrul researcher and I maintain the only comprehensive website dedicated to the life and works of Nazrul. Indeed, the resources at the site were extensively used and referred to in putting together the Wikipedia article on Nazrul. My own writings on Nazrul have also been included in the reference section of the essay.

Recently, while going through the Wikipedia article, I came across a particular information that is uncorroborated. Indeed, the particular reference given is not even accessible. Based on three leading biographies of Nazrul and additional research (that does not contradict the information provided in these biographies), I edited the part related to Nazrul's illness and treatment and added specific, corroborated information (including about the physicians who examined Nazrul and their diagnosis). It seems all my edits have been reverted by you.

Since you have contributed so much to this page, obviously you have interest in this article. I am wondering if you can help me understand your reason to revert it. After all, if you care about Nazrul, I am sure you will like to have accurate information about him. Furthermore, as a Wikipedia contributor, we all must have interest in improving the pedia through better research and works.

I would greatly appreciate if you can help me understand your decision to revert my edits.

I can also be directly contacted at farooqm@globalwebpost.com.

Best regards.

======================

Dr. Mohammad Omar Farooq Associate Professor of Economics and Finance Director, Institute of Entrepreneurial Studies Upper Iowa University, USA Owner/Webmaster: Kazi Nazrul Islam Page [1]

Intervol

Hi there, I was wondering under what grounds the article 'Intervol' was deleted by you? It may not have had references as yet but it is a constitution certified member of one of the largest and most well-respected universities in England. The page is useful as it gives readers of the main university of birmingham page more information if they want it. Please could I have a copy of the page so that I can correctly reference it and then re-include it. I would have much preferred some constructive criticism and help rather than a quiet removal. Is your role to simply remove the unreferenced material again and again or to teach people how to correctly assemble pages?
Thank you for your time.
CaiHeath 20:59 GMT March 10th

WikiProject India Newsletter: Volume II, Issue 2 - March 2007

Project News
  • Jimbo's visit to India and the WikiCamp in Chennai: Jimbo recently visited India in late February and early March on wiki work. This included a trip to a WikiCamp in Chennai. The one day conference attracted 300 participants from across India and beyond dealt with issues facing wikis ([2]). It was widely covered by the press, eg The Hindu( [3]), which cited the efforts of Bhadani (edit count), Sundar (leadership on Tamil Wikipedia) and Ganeshk (Creation of Ganeshbot to create articles on Indian towns from census figures). Ganeshk himself travelled from California to attend the conference.
  • Wikipedia Weekly 15: Wikipedia Weekly, a informal Wikipedians' program that purports to give "A weekly audio roundup of Wikipedia happenings with news, interviews and roundtable discussions" recently interviewed two prominent editors Rama's Arrow and Ragib(listen). The entire 34 minute interview was entirely about the world of Indian subcontinent wiki-happenings, and was the first episode which was not entirely dominated by discussion of wiki-politics and wiki-bureaucracy, with the host Witty lama praising the efficiency of the project and its proliferation of featured content. Rama's Arrow cited the team spirit, friendship and respect among project members in discussing its success and FA productivity, as well as discussing subcontinental wiki-conflict. Ragib talked also of his public campaign to raise awareness of the Bengali Wikipedia in his native Bangladesh, which has seen a 30-fold increase in article count over the past year.
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  • More generally, certain Indian users have recently been subject to real life harassment by banned users, etc. If this is affecting you in real life, please do not hesitate to contact Wikimedia board members for assistance, or ask a senior Wikipedian to solicit help on your behalf if required.
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IIPM

I note with some amusement that as soon as the protection expired on The Indian Institute of Planning and Management (which you protected), the edit war resumed at its previous pace (under the threshold of 3RR). At least the editors spent a week talking about it, so I guess the protection helped. -Amatulic 22:28, 13 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Amatulic, what talk? The guys who keep reverting and want to whitewash the page all the time never took part in the discussion. There have been other attempts at discussion which have been spurned. And I opened an RFM a few months back which was not accepted by them(look at my talk page). Discussion will help with normal editors with whom there is a POV difference. These people are IIPM employees who have made me legal threats and death threats . 2 users have even been indefinitely banned for it. Again, check my talk page. I will open an RFM but I doubt if they will accept it, because luckily for them, the version saved is the one they have been reverting to. And it will stay like that for a month. They will return only after a month. Makrandjoshi 00:11, 15 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent creations

We should consider a succession box for Sarsanghchalaks as well. If you dont want to make one I'll get around to it tonight, perhaps. Hornplease 21:06, 14 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

My apologies as well

Wow, that takes some gumption to write an apology like that. I apologize as well... the whole COI thing is all I could think of as far as possible motivation for your action but I trust the explanation you've given me just now. I look forward to working cooperatively with you as the case may arise in the future. Thanks for extending your apology like that. (→Netscott) 22:12, 14 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

IslamismSA

What is your view on adding the National Development Front and Shah Bano to the list.Bakaman 01:07, 15 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting comment on Walton Monarchist's RfA:

May I ask what you meant when you responded to my comment on Walton's RfA - "Note to closing b'crat - this user has a history of "trying" to pull pranks on RfAs :D"? I suspect it's a joke. If so, I'm a bit worried a crat might mistake it for a legitimate claim & discount my joke. If it isn't a joke, may I ask what you mean? Thansk Rama, always a pleasure. :) Spawn Man 07:09, 15 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I forgot about that lol. No need to strike out if you don't want, but I get the joke now lol. Cheers, :) Spawn Man 11:36, 15 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

DYK

Updated DYK query On 16 April, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Bengali nationalism, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--Carabinieri 11:49, 16 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Help needed

Nirav Bhai, it's a long while on vacation for me. But, there's an urgency now at WP:FARC#Tamil language. Will you please help with its copyediting? A fresh pair of eyes is needed for both its content and prose. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 13:40, 16 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

User:Anil Kr Gupta and linkspam

I noticed you blocked him two days ago. New linkspam today in violation of WP:USER: [4]. Cheers. – Chacor (RIP 96) 15:22, 16 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Indian collaboration of the week news

As mentioned in Wikiproject India newsletter of March 2007, the weekly collaboration of the Indian wikiproject has fallen from its once high feats. This message is to request the users to visit the collaboration page and help rejuvenate it.

The present collaboration of the week is Religion in India. Please go through the talk page of the article to see the proposed changes in the article. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 18:37, 17 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

All India Sikh Students Federation

Updated DYK query On 18 April, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article All India Sikh Students Federation, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--howcheng {chat} 23:10, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Page deletion

Hi, you deleted my page on Hong Chan Lee, I'd appreciate it if you undeleted my page. I will add more information and references and such. If you look at the updated article and are still not satisfied, let me know what I can do to make it suitable for Wikipedia. Regards. Hubbub94 01:40, 19 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Shirahadasha RfA thanks

Thanks so much for taking the time to comment on my my RfA, which was successful. I learned a lot from the comments, I appreciate everything that was said, and I'll do my best to deserve the community's trust. Thanks again! And thanks for your support. --Shirahadasha 04:27, 20 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Undelete my page

Could you please restore my page that you deleted, as I would like to add to it. My village has spent thousands of pounds, thats thousands and thousands of dollars, restoring a book and I would like to be able to post the important and interesting information it contained on Wikipedia for all to see.

Please restore my page, give me time to update it fully with the new information I have received. If you are still not happy about it, then we will speak to a more senior admin and get it resolved.

By the way, I have taken advice on this, if you do not cooperate I will act upon the advice received and launch an official complaint.

Smellysocks 18:02, 20 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

My RfA

Hello Rama's Arrow, thank you for supporting my RfA!
I was promoted with a final tally of 68/12/0.
Also, please wish a Happy Birthday to Her Majesty the Queen. Vivat Regina!

Asking someone knowledgeable

Could you please see great power and analyze Faraz's unattributed claims there? I will let a knowledeable admin such as yourself make their own conclusions. Traing 08:48, 22 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wikithanks

thanks for taking action. dab (𒁳) 10:42, 22 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
Maintaining Wikipedia is just as crucial as building it. You deserve this. GizzaChat © 11:22, 22 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I second the barnstar. And, you've got mail. - Aksi_great (talk) 14:25, 22 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
While the blocking was needed, IMO, indefinite block for Baka can be re-considered. I don't know about the others blocked, but Baka has been a good contributor, despite his deviations. Can there be less harsh steps?--Dwaipayan (talk) 15:31, 22 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm, ok. It's rather unfortunate. Such a good contributor should have been more discerning and thoughful.--Dwaipayan (talk) 15:40, 22 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Dwaipayan, I had also thought on whether Baka's block should be be re-considered but realised that his good contributions don't balance out his bad ones. It is like not sending a person, who robs banks and murders children during the night to prison because he is involved in charity during the day. GizzaChat © 01:39, 23 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I think comparing Baka's actions with those of murderers and bank robbers is highly obnoxious. I wont defend his actions. I know he was headstrong and did and said a few things that some people didnt like. But having said that i grant it that he was honest enough to speak his mind and indicate his POV unlike some two faced Januses over here. Oneof his biggest faults I think was failure to indulge in cultural relativism that so many of deal in here... Amey Aryan DaBrood© 06:47, 23 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think Gizza meant it that way. - Aksi_great (talk) 08:47, 23 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
No I didn't. Sorry if my analogy sounded harsh but I was trying to show how Bakaman masked his bad actions. Whenever somebody accused him of a personal attack or being a troll, his response tended to be something like "I have written 32 DYKs. You haven't written any. And you consider me to be the troll!" GizzaChat © 10:16, 23 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
DaGizza, he said that so often that I actually began thinking that everybody agreed with him. Nirav, you have my profound thanks. Its not Baka's views that are the problem, it was his attitude. Hornplease 23:36, 23 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Scheibenzahl and Anupamsr

I guess the puppet and puppeteer were reversed. I think I fixed what you meant to do; please check it. Thanks -- Avi 16:43, 22 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I don't have time to look into this right now, but Scheibenzahl has asked me to unblock him. I think he may have a point: he blundered, but he wasn't part of the obviously bad faith trolling team. As he puts it, his crime consists of signing up to a forum that was also frequented by those who "caught" him. I think I two weeks' or month's block may be appropriate to press home the point that we have no use for sockpuppeteers. As I said, I haven't really looked into it, and have no definite opinion on this yet, it will just be a good idea to be extra careful not to mete out summary punishment to users that are only coincidentially associated with the genuine trolls, and I do remember Scheibenzahl showed some credible signs of good faith. dab (𒁳) 19:03, 22 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Overall Scheibenzahl is probably okay, but his sympathies are definitely with that lot. He probably also has a personal dislike of me, stemming from this, which, since the page in question is gone, has become meaningless. I'll say this much, I don't view WP:AGF as a blank check. It was clear that Scheibenzahl was an experienced editor when he showed up in March. Which newbie configures javascript as very first order of business? Showing up in the middle of a very contentious period (as all of us have reason to remember) and diving into things like AfDs and omnibus edits of a controversial article simply did not make too much sense. To me, at least. And then recently, there was this peculiar incident. The history is revealing. It's about a quote consisting of three passages separated by ellipses. At some point Hornplease removed the middle section, and replaced it with another passage. After exchanging reverts with Buddhipriya, Hornplease established his version with this. The next four edits were reverts, first by Baka, then by me, then by Scheibenzahl, then by me again, where I moved the passage that Baka and Scheibenzahl wanted -- to its correct position. (Which comes first? Para 4 or para 6?) I think the revert by Scheibenzahl was reflexive - neither of them had read the review, and Baka's revert was to twit Hornplease - because he dislikes me, and he wanted to support Baka. That's why I say that Scheibenzahl's sympathies are clear. rudra 21:24, 22 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
he is free to have his sympathies as long as he understands and respects WP policy. It would indeed be a good thing to have a few good editors who are sympathetic towards Hindutva but at are at the same time willing to recognize WP:UNDUE etc. (unlikely, I know, nationalists that are both intelligent and honest are comparatively rare). I thus endorse his unblocking as long as it is understood that he is risking being reblocked as soon as he lets his sympathies get the better of him. dab (𒁳) 10:29, 23 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I wasn't suggesting that his sympathies were illegitmate. In a sense, everyone has an "agenda" -- it's compatibility with WP that matters. Nevertheless, the sympathies involved oblige such people to take a view of ancient Indian history that runs up smack against the mainstream. Tension is unavoidable. Worse, there is an underlying problem: one needn't doubt the editors' good faith, at least at first; it's when the bad faith of their heroes (Rajaram et al) get exposed that things become very ugly. No one likes to be mistaken. rudra 11:24, 23 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ian Thorpe FAR

Ian Thorpe has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here.


I apologize if this doesn't seem to concern you. I noticed that you left several comments on the article's peer review page, so I figured you might be interested. --Cryptic C62 · Talk 23:57, 22 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Your message

Hi Rama. I will come back with my comments soon. --Bhadani (talk) 15:29, 23 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Rama. At the outset, I would like to clear that for last several months I am not doing serious edits to wikipedia, and to that extent I feel that my value as a wikipedian must have got devalued. There is nothing wrong in it and it is normal. Having clarified about my current perception of Bhadani as a wikipedian, I may add that I read the information available at the link provided by you. I feel that my comments there are perhaps not required as many persons have already discussed the issue, and many more editors interested in the issue may join the discussion. Reactions to my comments may be severe from some circles, and I am not in a mood to carry any more wikipedia-related stress (at least not now) on account of other real life commitments, and other online interests like contributing to [wikias]. Surely, each one of us are bound by the wikipedia guidelines, policies, etc. Yes, if some one violates the guidelines, policies, etc., suitable administrative actions must certainly flow. However, in my opinion, indefinite blocks or long blocks (that is, the capital punishment) should be handed over for equally bad edits with potential to kill or poison wikipedia (I mean particular pages of wikipedia as no one can kill wikipedia). In case, some one has done some gross "misconduct" or "misdemeanor" through his/her editings, he/she may be blocked for varying periods of time depending on the circumstances of the case. If there are definite evidences indicating that some one is collaborating with a user banned by the ArbCom, the position becomes different, and perhaps a severe block is required depending on the original decision of the ArbCom. In such a situation, I am not aware if administrators can step into the shoes of the ArbCom, and take the decision of their own which shall be essentially reflective of ArbCom's decision but without the due process of ArbCom if the editor was distinct one than the editor "punished" by the ArbCom. These are my personal opinions which I am sharing with you in my personal capacity as an ordinary wikipedian (and not my views as an administrator) as I still have to learn a lot about the "nitty-gritty" of such ticklish and serious issues. My comments here are for you only, and the same is not with a view to influence in any manner the discussion which is taking place at the place indicated in your message to me. Regards. --Bhadani (talk) 18:14, 23 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
By the way, I know at least one of my real life acquittance who got permanently blocked for the simple reason that her real life name matched with the name of a set of existing users who were blocked for some reasons, and none of her edits violated any of our policies! But, to know all these things, you will have to wait till the proposed book being written by me Choice in Chaos: Autobiography of a Wikipedian sees the light of the day after I am able to extricate myself out the wiki-tube :) Cheers! --Bhadani (talk) 18:14, 23 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Sbhushan block

I noticed that you have blocked me for sock/meat puppet reason. I would like to mention few things regarding this.

1. I have only edited Wikipedia under a single id, so why would there be any reason to call me sock-puppet of anyone.

2. I have had no contribution on articles frequented by HKelkar on Wikipedia. How can I be called a HKelkar meat-puppet? I have not done any “editing for his purposes as proxies”.

3. When I initiated RfC and Arbcom against Dbachman, I was sent some information via email by another user. I did NOT use any of the information in any complaints / edits that I have done (a quick look at history of my edits should make this very clear). If I have not done any edit based on any email I was sent, how does that make me a meat-puppet?

4. When I was provided the information by email, I had specifically emailed to that user that I will not be using any of the information and am not interested in any religious based discussion. Same can be seen on the talk page of Out of India article, where I specifically removed any religion related information from the article.

5. Only issue mentioned in the ANI report is my dispute with Dab. Please look at history on Out of India talk page, I tried to discuss the issue with Dab for about 4 months before I escalated to dispute resolution process. All the history is also in the RfC. The dispute is that Dab is publishing original research and I have tried to stop him from that. So I don’t understand how you have held me alone responsible for this. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 198.96.180.245 (talk) 18:57, 23 April 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Dhaka question

Nirav, Can you take a look at Talk:Dhaka#Neutrality_of_this_article_disputed? I've fixed the first sentence ref, but since you (probably) added the second one, can you look into those refs? Thanks. --Ragib 19:47, 23 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Baka's unblocking

Rama, Please don't take this personally. I do not think a suspicion of meatpuppetry is a strong enough reason for a block and I don't think it was fair to Baka. I made my unblock conditional. BTW, I wouln't make comparisons between BhaiSaab and Baka. Thanks. ←Humus sapiens ну? 23:56, 23 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I respect your opinion, as well as opinions of other users (and there were both pro and con) and that is why I made the unblock conditional. Usually I support strong measures against offenders and I agree he has violated some rules, but I do not think Baka is the worst offender around. ←Humus sapiens ну? 00:34, 24 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for being reasonable. ←Humus sapiens ну? 01:18, 24 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Scheibenzahl

Hi Rama! Thanks for unblocking me. There is a kind request for you though. Please don't refer to me by my name. In recent past, I have grown more and more conscious about my identity disclosure. Thus, please use my login handle: Scheibenzahl to refer to me. The reason for not publicly announcing my previous account Anupamsr was the same.

Also, it is Scheiben-zahl (shaa-i-ben), Not Schieben-zahl (shee-ben) :) Thanks.--Scheibenzahl 20:17, 24 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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