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The result was redirect‎ to Flag of Lebanon. No separable notability. —Ganesha811 (talk) 17:13, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Maronite flag

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This article is most likely based on original research. There are no reliable sources about a distinct "Maronite flag." The white flag with a cedar is simply an earlier version of the Flag of Lebanon. Syphax98 (talk) 12:43, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Visual arts-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 17:42, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: The page has multiple sources. Request is just being done by user who does negationist edits to anything Maronite. [1] Red Phoenician (talk) 01:27, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Also, user failed to notify me of the proposal. Red Phoenician (talk) 01:44, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The sources don't talk about a distinct "Maronite flag". --Syphax98 (talk) 10:57, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

And please just talk about the sources and don't try to label me. I could do the same thing by pointing out the nature of your contributions (we are discussing it here), which are clearly associated with ethnonationalist ideas, deprecated here on Wikipedia. I am active on the Italian-language Wikipedia, not here. Here on the English-language Wikipedia I am limiting myself to these topics, because I was surprised by how much certain users have imposed certain clearly POV ideas in recent years. --Syphax98 (talk) 11:05, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Three of the sources distinctly talk about a Maronite flag. Please review all the sources before making claims. Red Phoenician (talk) 02:22, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The crwflags website couldn't be considered a reliable source. The Lebanese Armed Forces website does not refer to any "Maronite flag" and calls this version "العلم اللبناني في الفترة الانتقالية (1918-1920)" ("The Lebanese flag in the transitional period (1918-1920)"). The Minbladeh website (also non reliable anyway) makes no reference to a "Maronite flag" and defines this as the "Flag of the region of Lebanon after the fall of the Ottoman Empire (1918-1920)". Some sources refer to the fact that this version was used widely by the Maronite community (which was the main religious community in favor of the formation of an independent Lebanon"), but sources rarely refer to it as the "Maronite flag". The article itself refers to the fact that this flag was designed by Shukri El Khoury and Naoum Labaki, active in the Mahjar (an Arab cultural association); the activity of these two intellectuals was never aimed at creating a separate Maronite identity, but rather an Arab and Lebanese identity that transcended religious boundaries. --Syphax98 (talk) 14:35, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Malinaccier (talk) 14:24, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: this is not the "Maronite flag", it is simply the first version of the Lebanese flag, in use between 1918 and 1920. Some sources refer to the fact that this version was used by many Maronites who were campaigning for independence of Lebanon (being the community most favorable to independence, unlike for example the Sunnis who wanted union with Syria) and this can be written in the article relating to the flag of Lebanon. There is no trace of the use of this flag after 1920. --Syphax98 (talk) 15:35, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As nominator, you shouldn't "vote" in this AfD. Your nomination already counts as a "vote" to delete. The closer will simply evaluate this as another comment. Toadspike [Talk] 16:34, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Flag of Lebanon: possibly adding the few sourced statements to the target. Owen× ☎ 14:15, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Flag of Lebanon. I am having trouble verifying some of the sources, including the French pdf archive and the Academia.edu link. However, assuming good faith on the quotes provided, I see two reliable sources that mention a Maronite flag. This isn't enough to establish notability, and it's even less adequate to justify a separate page from the Flag of Lebanon article, which is basically the same topic. Any reliably sourced information here can be merged there if the creator, Red Phoenician, desires. Toadspike [Talk] 16:42, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Flag of Lebanon per WP:ATD.4meter4 (talk) 17:03, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. (non-admin closure) Cheerio, Mattdaviesfsic. About me; Talk to me. Farewell fellow editor... 00:33, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alliance Graphique Internationale

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Article based on primary sources and fails WP:ORG for lack of third party coverage. LibStar (talk) 22:25, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: France and Switzerland. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 02:37, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. There’s an entire scholarly book about the organization AGI: Graphic Design Since 1950 (2007, W. W. Norton & Company) by Elly Bos that’s held in numerous university libraries such as https://primo.rowan.edu/discovery/fulldisplay?vid=01ROWU_INST:ROWAN&search_scope=MyInst_and_CI&tab=Everything&docid=alma995254273405201&lang=en&context=L Seems like a notable international professional non-profit organization.4meter4 (talk) 17:01, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's one source. Do you have WP:THREE? LibStar (talk) 22:11, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Found SIGCOV to substantiate WP:ORGCRIT at Art and Industry - Volumes 58-59 (1955) p. 2, Gebrauchsgraphik - Volume 36 (1965) p. 62, Domus: architecttura, arredamento, arte - Issues 669-672 (1986) p. 27. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 22:55, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Hey man im josh (talk) 20:15, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

World's Largest Handmade Quran in Afghanistan

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Per Talk:World's Largest Handmade Quran in Afghanistan#Requested move 29 October 2024, concerns were brought up regarding the notability of this topic in sources, specifically such a way to make it notable and not violate WP:NOTNEWS. In addition, trying to find an "official" name for this topic seemed to provide no results, and the claim that this is the "world's largest" without "in Afghanistan" was apparently disproven 2 years after the creation of this article's subject [2]. In a nutshell, there seems to be no references to illustrate that the subject of this article had encyclopedic notability that can withstand WP:GNG. Steel1943 (talk) 19:29, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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@Myceteae: Ping participant of the move request. Steel1943 (talk) 19:35, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak support for deletion. I was the sole participant in the aforementioned RM discussion, besides the nominator, Steel1943. Our discussion reached a dead end due to a lack of ongoing coverage in English language sources establishing an appropriateWP:COMMONNAME or official name. Some English language sources revealed new record holder's for "world's largest [handmade] Quran," thus calling into question variations on the current descriptive title. Additionally, there are no Wikipedia articles in other languages for this topic. All of this raised the question of notability and led Steel1943 and I to pursue this AfD discussion. I would defer to other editors on the ultimate decision. I'm not familiar enough with the topic and related subject area to conclusively determine whether appropriate sources, in English or not, exist to establish notability.--MYCETEAE 🍄‍🟫—talk 20:24, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - a made up in one day thing. We are not the Guiness Book of World Records of books. Bearian (talk) 10:36, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: WP:NOTNEWS. Fails WP:GNG too. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 17:42, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗plicit 04:45, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Elena Felipe and Bernadina Rivera

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Could not find coverage to meet WP:ARTIST. The one source provided may be indepth but one needs multiple sources to demonstrate notability. LibStar (talk) 04:40, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Visual arts - Proposed deletions

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Visual arts - Images for Deletion

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