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I noticed that there are some big claims regarding storms from the [[2024 Atlantic hurricane season]], but there isn't an official damage total for the United States yet for Helene or Milton. The National Center for Information (NCEI) has a [https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/access/billions/events/US/2024?disasters list of billion dollar disasters] from this year, which includes Helene and Milton, as they are obviously on the list, but I'm uncomfortable having individual unofficial damage totals until we have a final estimate, especially when it comes to claims such as costliest or other records. Therefore, I propose that there is a moratorium on including unofficial United States damage totals, until there is an official estimate for a storm's ranking from NCEI or another official United States government agency. ♫ [[User:Hurricanehink|Hurricanehink]] (<small>[[User_talk:Hurricanehink|talk]]</small>) 00:05, 8 December 2024 (UTC) |
I noticed that there are some big claims regarding storms from the [[2024 Atlantic hurricane season]], but there isn't an official damage total for the United States yet for Helene or Milton. The National Center for Information (NCEI) has a [https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/access/billions/events/US/2024?disasters list of billion dollar disasters] from this year, which includes Helene and Milton, as they are obviously on the list, but I'm uncomfortable having individual unofficial damage totals until we have a final estimate, especially when it comes to claims such as costliest or other records. Therefore, I propose that there is a moratorium on including unofficial United States damage totals, until there is an official estimate for a storm's ranking from NCEI or another official United States government agency. ♫ [[User:Hurricanehink|Hurricanehink]] (<small>[[User_talk:Hurricanehink|talk]]</small>) 00:05, 8 December 2024 (UTC) |
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- 11 Dec 2024 – Template:WPTC AC (talk · edit · hist) TfDed by Jonesey95 (t · c) was closed; see discussion
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- 04 Dec 2024 – Timeline of the 2004 Pacific hurricane season (talk · edit · hist) was FL nominated by Dylan620 (t · c); see discussion
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- 18 Dec 2024 – 2023 Atlantic hurricane season (talk · edit · hist) was GA nominated by 12george1 (t · c); start discussion
- 18 Dec 2024 – 1893 Atlantic hurricane season (talk · edit · hist) was GA nominated by 12george1 (t · c); see discussion
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- 15 Dec 2024 – List of South America hurricanes (talk · edit · hist) was nominated for FL removal by Yilku1 (t · c); see discussion
Articles to be merged
- 10 Dec 2024 – Hurricane Jeanne (1980) (talk · edit · hist) is proposed for merging to 1980 Atlantic hurricane season by Zzzs (t · c); see discussion
- 04 Dec 2024 – Effects of Hurricane Irma in the British Virgin Islands (talk · edit · hist) is proposed for merging to Effects of Hurricane Irma in the Caribbean by Zzzs (t · c); see discussion
- 28 Nov 2024 – Tropical Storm Katrina (1999) (talk · edit · hist) is proposed for merging to 1999 Atlantic hurricane season by Zzzs (t · c); see discussion
- 05 Nov 2024 – Tropical Storm Agatha (talk · edit · hist) is proposed for merging to Effects of Tropical Storm Agatha in Guatemala by 74.101.118.218 (t · c); see discussion
- 05 Nov 2024 – Effects of Tropical Storm Agatha in Guatemala (talk · edit · hist) is proposed for merging to Tropical Storm Agatha by 74.101.118.218 (t · c); see discussion
- 07 Dec 2024 – Hurricane Florence (1994) (talk · edit · hist) proposed for merging to 1994 Atlantic hurricane season by AwesomeAndEpicGamer (t · c) was closed; see discussion
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- 15 Dec 2024 – Draft:Tropical Storm Erick (2007) (talk · edit · hist) has been submitted for AfC by Boyfrombahia (t · c)
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Project notes
I just created this wikiproject, after several months of contemplating doing so. I hope everyone working on hurricane articles will get involved. I went ahead and wrote a bunch of guidelines, basically based on current practices...naturally since this is something I just wrote it doesn't necessarily represent community consensus and needs to be discussed. That discussion should probably go here for now...although eventually we may make these pages a little more structured. For a general TODO list, see the "tasks" item on the project page. Jdorje 23:17, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
Question about reference
Hi:
Could someone give me a reference about the "official" start aand end of the 2024–25 South-West Indian Ocean cyclone season. It is said in the text: 15 November 2024 to 30 April 2025, with the exception for Mauritius and the Seychelles, for which it will end on 15 May 2025. However, I could not find a weblink to corroborate that.
Pierre cb (talk) 04:37, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
- The WMO RA I TCC defines the season as being from July 1 to June 30 of the following year, in line with the tropical cyclone year that is defined in the Australian and South Pacific regions. They also note, though, that certain members have defined a shorter period based on domestic needs and when disturbances are likely to influence their weather. For example, Mauritius says that the seasons run from November 1 to May 15.Jason Rees (talk) 13:25, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks! Pierre cb (talk) 05:05, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
Track map update
I realized that the effort to update the track maps is far from over. I wondered if we should have a task force, and maybe a recruitment drive to get editors to help. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 00:16, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- I found this a year or so ago but I am not sure how official it is. ✶Quxyz✶ 01:13, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- Adding on, I might be willing to help with updating tracks but I need to know where to access BT files and the proper software (if the above is not good). ✶Quxyz✶ 01:33, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- That site is wholly unsuitable for generation due to the size of the images.--Jasper Deng (talk) 07:41, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- Well, I exclusively use it as the difference to the common eye is minimal in my honest opinion. Tavantius (talk) 16:24, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- That site is wholly unsuitable for generation due to the size of the images.--Jasper Deng (talk) 07:41, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- Adding on, I might be willing to help with updating tracks but I need to know where to access BT files and the proper software (if the above is not good). ✶Quxyz✶ 01:33, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
What if we had more of an incentive to make the track maps? Another user I was chatting with - TheNuggeteer (talk · contribs) - talked about having another hurricane cup next year. What if we had an editor competition, and included making track maps as one of the ways to get points? Separately, we could also have bonus points for articles about meteorology instead of single events. Just trying to find a creative solution to this problem. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 22:19, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- Sure! Though I'm not sure about the Meteorology one. Maybe the participants can decide.
🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 (My "blotter")
04:34, 18 November 2024 (UTC)- What exactly does it take for one to generate the track maps, as in, what type of software and level of technology proficiency? Because if there's a certain software or application needed to make the track maps, then it doesn't seem fair to make it part of the Cyclone Cup if not everyone can download/have access to it. JayTee⛈️ 17:55, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- @JayTee32: You basically need Linux (though not Android or ChromeOS), Windows Subsystem for Linux (Windows 10 or later), or Unix (including macOS). Basically all major desktop operating systems.--Jasper Deng (talk) 07:06, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- @JayTee32: As for proficiency: you need basic knowledge of bash (Unix).--Jasper Deng (talk) 07:13, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- @JayTee32: You basically need Linux (though not Android or ChromeOS), Windows Subsystem for Linux (Windows 10 or later), or Unix (including macOS). Basically all major desktop operating systems.--Jasper Deng (talk) 07:06, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- What exactly does it take for one to generate the track maps, as in, what type of software and level of technology proficiency? Because if there's a certain software or application needed to make the track maps, then it doesn't seem fair to make it part of the Cyclone Cup if not everyone can download/have access to it. JayTee⛈️ 17:55, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
Good article reassessment for Hurricane Allen
Hurricane Allen has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you would like to participate, please leave your comments in the reassessment discussion. —JCMLuis 💬 17:52, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
Paleotempestology update
Anyone who can help update Paleotempestology with these sources? The sheer number is starting to wear me out. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 15:50, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
Proposal: Moratorium on including unofficial United States damage totals
I noticed that there are some big claims regarding storms from the 2024 Atlantic hurricane season, but there isn't an official damage total for the United States yet for Helene or Milton. The National Center for Information (NCEI) has a list of billion dollar disasters from this year, which includes Helene and Milton, as they are obviously on the list, but I'm uncomfortable having individual unofficial damage totals until we have a final estimate, especially when it comes to claims such as costliest or other records. Therefore, I propose that there is a moratorium on including unofficial United States damage totals, until there is an official estimate for a storm's ranking from NCEI or another official United States government agency. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 00:05, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
List of South America hurricanes nominated for featured list removal
I have nominated List of South America hurricanes for featured list removal. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured list criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks; editors may declare to "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Yilku1 (talk) 16:03, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
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