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This article is largely based on 4 sources about her being "awarded the US Presidential Lifetime Achievers Award (Presidential Volunteer Service Award) (PVSA) by American President Joe Biden." This is apparently only reported in Nigerian sources, not in any official source, and she isn't listed on the official list[1]. The award is apparently only intended for "U.S. citizens and lawful permanent residents", so not for a Nigerian in France. If the sources have this basic fact, the premisse for the articles, wrong, then they aren't reliable sources to start with but just repeating something spoonfed by the subject or someone trying to promote them. Fram (talk) 09:33, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Businesspeople, Awards, Economics, Nigeria, France, and United States of America. Fram (talk) 09:33, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I've just done a deep dive into this. The President's Volunteer Service Award has various grades, and is given to numerous people every year, and is not generally notable. Only at the highest level, people receiving the the President's Call to Service Award (also called the "President's Lifetime Achievement Award"), may be notable for receiving the award. But even that is doubtful, as recipients are usually notably already in their own right. In any case, it's pretty clear that Martina Ononiwu did not receive the President's Call to Service Award, as there are no US-based notable sources testifying to this. A search for the name "Martina Ononiwu" is the news sources yields nothing except Nigerian news sources stating that she was given the President's Lifetime Achievement Award. It is highly unlikely that a person would be honored with the President's Lifetime Achievement Award, without leaving any sort of trace in the news sources. --LK (talk) 11:08, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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	* '''Delete''' I've just done a deep dive into this. The [[President's Volunteer Service Award]] has various grades, and is given to numerous people every year, and is not generally notable. Only at the highest level, receiving the the [[President's Call to Service Award]] (also called the "President's Lifetime Achievement Award"), may be notable for receiving the award. But even that is doubtful, as recipients are usually notably already in their own right. In any case, it's pretty clear that Martina Ononiwu did not receive the [[President's Call to Service Award]], as there are no US-based notable sources testifying to this. A search for the name "Martina Ononiwu" is the news sources yields nothing except Nigerian news sources stating that she was given the President's Lifetime Achievement Award. It is highly unlikely that a person would be honored with the President's Lifetime Achievement Award, without leaving any sort of trace in the news sources. [[User:Lawrencekhoo\|--LK]] ([[User talk:Lawrencekhoo\|talk]]) 11:08, 18 December 2024 (UTC)		* '''Delete''' I've just done a deep dive into this. The [[President's Volunteer Service Award]] has various grades, and is given to numerous people every year, and is not generally notable. Only at the highest level, people receiving the the [[President's Call to Service Award]] (also called the "President's Lifetime Achievement Award"), may be notable for receiving the award. But even that is doubtful, as recipients are usually notably already in their own right. In any case, it's pretty clear that Martina Ononiwu did not receive the [[President's Call to Service Award]], as there are no US-based notable sources testifying to this. A search for the name "Martina Ononiwu" is the news sources yields nothing except Nigerian news sources stating that she was given the President's Lifetime Achievement Award. It is highly unlikely that a person would be honored with the President's Lifetime Achievement Award, without leaving any sort of trace in the news sources. [[User:Lawrencekhoo\|--LK]] ([[User talk:Lawrencekhoo\|talk]]) 11:08, 18 December 2024 (UTC)