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::{{tq|"It also means unique experiences (their own friend group, for example). prenatal development is definitely a factor, but its not the only one"}} – well, you simply don't know what you are talking about. Non-shared environment can include effects in utero. As can shared env. A GWAS certainly cannot tell you what type of environment is at play. [[User:Zenomonoz|Zenomonoz]] ([[User talk:Zenomonoz|talk]]) 23:42, 8 January 2025 (UTC) |
::{{tq|"It also means unique experiences (their own friend group, for example). prenatal development is definitely a factor, but its not the only one"}} – well, you simply don't know what you are talking about. Non-shared environment can include effects in utero. As can shared env. A GWAS certainly cannot tell you what type of environment is at play. [[User:Zenomonoz|Zenomonoz]] ([[User talk:Zenomonoz|talk]]) 23:42, 8 January 2025 (UTC) |
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:::What? I specifically said that prenatal development is a factor in nonshared environment? You're repeating what I said. [[Special:Contributions/80.200.232.89|80.200.232.89]] ([[User talk:80.200.232.89#top|talk]]) 23:44, 8 January 2025 (UTC) |
:::What? I specifically said that prenatal development is a factor in nonshared environment? You're repeating what I said. [[Special:Contributions/80.200.232.89|80.200.232.89]] ([[User talk:80.200.232.89#top|talk]]) 23:44, 8 January 2025 (UTC) |
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::::You can't just say that 100% of the variance in both shared and nonshared factors are simply the cause of prenatal development. That's unscientific and above all disingenious. [[Special:Contributions/80.200.232.89|80.200.232.89]] ([[User talk:80.200.232.89#top|talk]]) 23:51, 8 January 2025 (UTC) |
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Revision as of 23:51, 8 January 2025
December 2024
Hello, I'm Eyer. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, Communism and LGBTQ rights, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. —Eyer (he/him) If you reply, add {{reply to|Eyer}}
to your message. 21:10, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Eyer: The wiki article concurs with everything I wrote already. 80.200.232.89 (talk) 21:14, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- On further reading, I see that you're adding sourced content from the article to the lead. I'm sorry that I didn't catch that before. A lot of editors add defamatory text to articles as an act of vandalism, and your edit looked like that at first glance. If you re-add your text, be sure to capitalize "East Asian" and "Communist" so that your text matches Wikipedia style. Best wishes. —Eyer (he/him) If you reply, add
{{reply to|Eyer}}
to your message. 21:17, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- On further reading, I see that you're adding sourced content from the article to the lead. I'm sorry that I didn't catch that before. A lot of editors add defamatory text to articles as an act of vandalism, and your edit looked like that at first glance. If you re-add your text, be sure to capitalize "East Asian" and "Communist" so that your text matches Wikipedia style. Best wishes. —Eyer (he/him) If you reply, add
Please do not add or significantly change content without citing verifiable and reliable sources, as you did with this edit to Communism and LGBTQ rights. Before making any potentially controversial edits, it is recommended that you discuss them first on the article's talk page. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. C F A 22:20, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- Mate none of the other phrases are referenced in the lead as well. This is so as to not cause any clutter in the lead. I just added sourced content from the article to the lead. 80.200.232.89 (talk) 00:34, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
Please stop. If you continue to add unsourced or poorly sourced content, as you did at Communism and LGBTQ rights, you may be blocked from editing. SomeHelpfulEditor (talk) 00:22, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- Mate none of the other phrases are referenced in the lead as well. This is so as to not cause any clutter in the lead. I just added sourced content from the article to the lead... like how all wiki articles work. 80.200.232.89 (talk) 00:35, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
January 2025
Please stop. If you continue to insert fringe or undue weight content into articles, you may be blocked from editing. Articles on Wikipedia do not give fringe material equal weight to majority viewpoints; content in articles are given representation in proportion to their prominence. MrOllie (talk) 19:30, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- Cap but ok vro 80.200.232.89 (talk) 21:19, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- If you continue to lie about my edits and vandalize the articles which I edit, you may be blocked from editing. The GWAS article was somewhat understandable, not the article about biology and sexuality though. Perhaps you should try to read what my reasoning was to remove whatever I removed in that article? I mean, the source the person cites quite literally contradicts what they said. It's not fringe when the scientific community generally believes homosexuality to be largely environmental.
- Also, nonshared environmental factors =/= prenatal development. It also means unique experiences (their own friend group, for example). prenatal development is definitely a factor, but its not the only one. 80.200.232.89 (talk) 21:33, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
"It also means unique experiences (their own friend group, for example). prenatal development is definitely a factor, but its not the only one"
– well, you simply don't know what you are talking about. Non-shared environment can include effects in utero. As can shared env. A GWAS certainly cannot tell you what type of environment is at play. Zenomonoz (talk) 23:42, 8 January 2025 (UTC)- What? I specifically said that prenatal development is a factor in nonshared environment? You're repeating what I said. 80.200.232.89 (talk) 23:44, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- You can't just say that 100% of the variance in both shared and nonshared factors are simply the cause of prenatal development. That's unscientific and above all disingenious. 80.200.232.89 (talk) 23:51, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- What? I specifically said that prenatal development is a factor in nonshared environment? You're repeating what I said. 80.200.232.89 (talk) 23:44, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
Vandalism
Please stop vandalising Biology and sexual orientation. Your assertion that there is "straight up lying" on the article is incorrect. The "environment" includes non-social events, such as prenatal hormone exposure. Left handedness only has a modest influence of genes with a heritability of about 25%, but is more or less inborn, due to the environment in utero. Zenomonoz (talk) 23:39, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- Zenomonoz The source itself says that SHARED environmental factors account for 22% of the variance in homosexuality. Also, nonshared environmental factors also include unique experiences or influences, like friendships or events, that make people different, even if they grow up in the same family. 80.200.232.89 (talk) 23:42, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- Twin studies have been significantly underpowered, for starters. The largest twin study from Sweden found 0% for the shared environment on male sexual orientation, and modest effects on female sexual orientation.
- Shared environment can also include any shared prenatal hormone exposure washes, non shared environment can include any fluctuation that only hit one twin. You're the one insisting this must mean postnatal social influence and deleting a reliable secondary source (the Bailey review) to POV push on Wikipedia. Zenomonoz (talk) 23:51, 8 January 2025 (UTC)